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Would want Carver or Bethany in DA3?


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#101
Renmiri1

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I would love to have Carver and Anders bickering again. Or Bethany and Isabella makinge her blush :P

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Jaison1986

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I aways liked Bethany, so it would be nice to have her back, especially if she was romancable. Imagine how glorious it would be if Hawke found out the Inquisitor is romancing Bethany and he totally freaks out over it.

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I would love to see Carver/Bethany as a companion and love interest in Inquisition. I really liked how they developed over the course of Dragon Age II. I don't hold to the idea that it would be too much trouble. Think about how much extra work went into Mass Effect 3. Considering how much effort seems to be going into Inquisition, I see no reason why effectively four optional, romancable companions (Templar Carver, Circle Bethany, Warden Carver, Warden Bethany) is "too much". I demand better than just a cameo because I know better is possible. And if you don't want them as a companion, don't take them on quests, don't recruit them if you have the option, or maybe just kill them off in DA2. Meanwhile, I'll be going on quests with characters that have grown to be more than just the Champions sister/brother.

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I like the idea of Carver/Bethany returning. It could certainly add a lot of replayabilty to the game if they were companions. :)

#105
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Cameos at best

#106
Rolling Flame

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Bethany.

#107
TsaiMeLemoni

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Eh, no thanks. Never liked either sibling.

#108
Saraphial

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No, not at all. Besides both siblings being my least favorite characters in DA2, in terms of companions for DA3, I'd really appreciate a clean slate. No minor characters from previous games revamped to be in the party, no previous party members, nothing. I'll be playing a new hero, so I'd like the chance to get to know new characters.

I'm fine with Varric and Cassandra being party members at this point though because it was clearly set up through the framed narrative in DA2 that they would both be present and significant during the time in which Inquisition is taking place. (plus, I don't think there is a single soul who wasn't completely charmed by Varric)

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Bethany, sure. Carver.... Eh.

#110
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I wouldn't mind having Bethany and Carver be minor NPCs when you're dealing with a larger plot. Say that you're meeting with a group of mages, one of the mages could be Bethany. Or if you met the templars, one of the templars could be Carver. Grey Warden group? One of them could be your sibling. And if your sibling died then this minor NPC simply won't be standing there, or perhaps they'll have a replacement.

Just a quick cameo like that would be nice. Something that would make returning players feel a bit nostalgic, but without taking too much focus. Our inquisitors don't know these characters after all, their inclusion would be for us as players to see that their lives survived Kirkwall.

It's also the part of DA2 where you have the most control, I think. Thus it'd be nice to see those decisions come with some consequence, even if that consequence wouldn't be bigger than a cameo.

Modifié par KiddDaBeauty, 13 août 2013 - 08:12 .


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Rolling Flame

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I think having them as Grey Wardens would make for an easier cameo. After all, they were part of the group on that special mission during Act 2, which we're apparently going to find out about.

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I prefer to have new characters so I can get to know who they are and their backstory. While a few recurring characters are nice, truthfully the only characters I really loved in DA2 were Varrick and Anders - but Anders is already in awakening - though I still think him and justice have some potential to be an interesting cameo.

#113
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Neither.

Bethany was impossible to hate, but would be meaningless without the protagonist being her sibling.

Carver was impossible to like. I still don't understand how they justify writing this. I have nothing against a little conflict -Anders was an idiot in so many ways, yet an interesting character- but mere teenage "sibling rivalry" and a lack of attention doesn't quite cut him gladly joining the organization that made all of his family's life a living hell.

Modifié par Baelrahn, 13 août 2013 - 08:27 .


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Knight of Dane

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I would love a optional companion spot for Bethany and Carver. It would really enhance replayability with the possibility of either one in either role they could get.

They are the only ones I wanted to return.

#115
Knight of Dane

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Baelrahn wrote...

Neither.

Bethany was impossible to hate, but would be meaningless without the protagonist being her sibling.

Carver was impossible to like. I still don't understand how they justify writing this. I have nothing against a little conflict -Anders was an idiot in so many ways, yet an interesting character- but mere teenage "sibling rivalry" and a lack of attention doesn't quite cut him gladly joining the organization that made all of his family's life a living hell.

I disagree, what meaning they could have to the plot is only a issue of the writhers imagination. A good writer can make anything work, simple. Besides, who says they necessarily need to? Fenris had no meaning to the plot at any point in Dragon Age 2.

Also Carver, hard to like, but I got around to it. He reminds me of my youngest sister and of some of my friends younger siblings. I think he was a familiar character that added some dynamic to the replayability of the game.

#116
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I like Carver. I'm the youngest, so I understand where he's coming from when he feels jealous of the other sibling; however, seeing as how he and Bethany can die, it makes it less likely that they can appear in the game. This is not the case of Lelianna's decapitation where combat mechanic is non-canon. This is the case of them dying in cutscenes, and we all know cutscene deaths are permanent, unless you're some kinds of powerful deity (Flemeth). Besides, Carver has no relation to the inquisitor as far as I know, so I don't see how his character would fit into the game. His entire characterization in DA2 was about him being overshadowed by his brother afterall.

#117
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daaaav wrote...

Bland and Blander? Why? We already have Cullen for a filling serve of blandness...



Oooooooooh

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Battlebloodmage

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Sometimes, I don't know who is more obsessed? Cullen fans or his haters.

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I think it would make sense to see them if you had them join the Grey Warden's in DA2. When you meet the Wardens during the Qunari siege in Act 2; your sibling says they can't help you because they are doing something important for the Grey Warden's so Carver or Bethany could be involved in whatever the Wardens are going in DA:I

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Knight of Dane wrote...

I disagree, what meaning they could have to the plot is only a issue of the writhers imagination. A good writer can make anything work, simple. Besides, who says they necessarily need to? Fenris had no meaning to the plot at any point in Dragon Age 2.

Also Carver, hard to like, but I got around to it. He reminds me of my youngest sister and of some of my friends younger siblings. I think he was a familiar character that added some dynamic to the replayability of the game.


I'm probably going to earn a lot of dismay for this, but after my first playthrough, Fenris never makes it past his initial quest in any of my games. I don't know what it is exactly. It's not about the "quality" of the writing or anything nearly as sophisticated a complaint. He just feels more like one of Soul Calibur's cameos than an original DA-character. Yep, whatever that means. On a pure meta design level, he has this very asian popular culture vibe to him: Mostly his appearance of course, but also this rather straightforward dark hero personality, which got really tedious after a while.

That is -please- not meant to provoke any of their respective fans, just to say I may have a general problem with either approach.

...or maybe it's because Bethany reminds me of my little sister, and I'm just as biased as everyone else :]

Modifié par Baelrahn, 13 août 2013 - 10:33 .


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TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

Eh, no thanks. Never liked either sibling.


I second that, Blandany and Borver.


Yeah...

#122
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Cameo at best. Both of them may end up dead in DA2, after all.

#123
The_11thDoctor

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Beth

#124
BouncyFrag

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If they weren't related to the Champion there would have been no reason to know them in DA2 as they are unremarkable, at best. If they are looking for old companions to return they'd be better served by the ones in DA:O. They could also be dead which makes their incorporation a big waste of time that could be put elsewhere. Carver or Bethany getting killed in cutscenes that you had no influence over was, to put it bluntly, was lame and I'd rather not be reminded of this weak writing from DA2. Time to move on. Overall though, I want as many new companions as possible in DAI. I liked the returning companions in the ME series but that was due to their connection to Shepard. Each DA game has a different protagonist, so we should be getting new content and companions.

Modifié par BouncyFrag, 13 août 2013 - 05:10 .


#125
Magdalena11

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Maybe Carver. I always like people who have the guts to disagree with me. Bethany was too white-bread for my tastes.