That's even worse. Let's give the pissed off Templars who lost friends to the mages absolute power over the mages. Yeah, that'll end well.
It's irrelevant. All that matters is that the mages are controlled. So what if this control turns into the direct catalyst for abominations, demons and future magisters. All that matters is that these people have dominion over others that they do not like.
But he didn't arrest her did he? No he came after the entire wrong person and setoff the rebellion. If he had waited, Wynne would have succeeded in talking them down like she did before.
If you throw evidence of the crime to your neighbor and call the police they will arrest him (of course they won't consider him guilty but they will arrest him) and fact that rhys was under influence of the demon don't help in that case.
Better have peoples who abuse minority than minority abusing entire world
Lol as i said it is dumb as hell it is like saying that i play police because they arested me for murder... not at all lambert defeated her and her rebelion until divine came and well world war sponsored by mages...
it was brought by pro-mages to make adrian like mastermind thats your call if you follow their steps but it isn't in case as i said if you kill someone and police arrested you and you expected doesn't mean that you are mastermind or that you played police because they did what do you expect...
Nope i meant that it was something pro-mages pulled out of their...
No. That kind of thinking it pretty much the worst there is.
Also, I guess you've never heard about the concept of a set up before? You know, where Person A commits a crime than pins the blame on Person B because they don't like them. The police think Person B did it and arrest them, going along with Person A's plan.
So like how every concept you have was pulled out of yours?
It's irrelevant. All that matters is that the mages are controlled. So what if this control turns into the direct catalyst for abominations, demons and future magisters. All that matters is that these people have dominion over others that they do not like.
Sarcasm?
If you throw evidence of the crime to your neighbor and call the police they will arrest him (of course they won't consider him guilty but they will arrest him) and fact that rhys was under influence of the demon don't help in that case.
So, Adrian fooled Lambert than correct? She got him to come in and go after Wynne's son correct? Which is exactly what she wanted him to do correct? That is the very definition of played.
Please stay on topic.
Okay.
So, that Justinia...
How do you think she'll handle this mess the Circle and Templars will make?
That's even worse. Let's give the pissed off Templars who lost friends to the mages absolute power over the mages. Yeah, that'll end well.
It will, Ultimate Authority will reside with the Knight Commander in the Circle, Who will until further notice be acting in the capacity of leadership similar to the First Enchanter, who will be advised by an Actual First Enchanter, followed by the Chantry representative. I have this entire system written down on my sketch pad, while i was out smoking and walking the dog i gave it some thought.
The system will not merely be a Templar Dictatorship, It will be a Disciplined Military interment.
Magic will be contained.
I have so many ideas.
Sarcasm?
I would never dream of using such mockery to convey my general distaste for tyrants.
No. That kind of thinking it pretty much the worst there is.
Also, I guess you've never heard about the concept of a set up before? You know, where Person A commits a crime than pins the blame on Person B because they don't like them. The police think Person B did it and arrest them, going along with Person A's plan.
So like how every concept you have was pulled out of yours?
Not rly such thinking make world as it is today and allow to function it... pretty much society is built on sacrifices and suffering people who do not necessarily wanted be in that group...
They would be stupid if they didn't but ultimately process decides if you are guilty or not it is rather obvious if they find the murder weapon in your stuff that police will arrest you...
So, Adrian fooled Lambert than correct? She got him to come in and go after Wynne's son correct? Which is exactly what she wanted him to do correct? That is the very definition of played.
Not rly?
First he found evidence of the crime so he had to arrest him every law enforcer would do that so as i said nothing manipulative second thing that rhys was dealing with demon who might push him to murder others before... and we know that anders watned rhys to admit it so he had own goals he didn't had necessarily belive that rhys killed pharamond.
Okay.
So, that Justinia...
How do you think she'll handle this mess the Circle and Templars will make?
She will likely try to get both parties to the bargaining Table after they spend a few months killing each other, wearing down their forces, making a mess, etc.
Hoping they will weary themselves of war rapidly, she will then likely ask them to sue for peace with each other, and both return to the Chantry.
Will it happen? No clue, we don't know if that Peace Conference will even occur and in which context it would be held in.
Okay.
So, that Justinia...
How do you think she'll handle this mess the Circle and Templars will make?
First by forcing them to come to peace talks, then after whatever occurs from that exerting political and moral pressures and if the player is agreeable coronating the Inquisitor as having the support of the Chantry against the vileness of Lambert and his ilk and probably an opposing group of mages, not all rebelling mages, but I predict there will be an extremist group opposite the red templars. Lambert and Adrian should make fitting trophies for those who oppose the will of the Divine Inquisitor.
Lambert and Adrian should make fitting trophies for those who oppose the will of the Divine Inquisitor.
Adrian anyway.
No way i'd ever lay a finger on Lambert unless if he did a serious 180, He starts preaching like Thrask and i will be the first to be in line to kick his bones in, until then though? Man is Golden.
Adrian anyway.
No way i'd ever lay a finger on Lambert unless if he did a serious 180, He starts preaching like Thrask and i will be the first to be in line to kick his bones in, until then though? Man is Golden.
Good thing he is a meatsuit for Cole.
Good thing he is a meatsuit for Cole.
That's one line of speculation, we will see.
if it turns out to be true, i am relieved partially, don't have to Murder one of my beloved book characters again...
I just have to grant him a final respect and send him on his way to the Maker's side.
Good thing he is a meatsuit for Cole.
Would be so very fitting...or constraining.
Going to ignore TKS because...yeah.
She will likely try to get both parties to the bargaining Table after they spend a few months killing each other, wearing down their forces, making a mess, etc.
Hoping they will weary themselves of war rapidly, she will then likely ask them to sue for peace with each other, and both return to the Chantry.
Will it happen? No clue, we don't know if that Peace Conference will even occur and in which context it would be held in.
First by forcing them to come to peace talks, then after whatever occurs from that exerting political and moral pressures and if the player is agreeable coronating the Inquisitor as having the support of the Chantry against the vileness of Lambert and his ilk and probably an opposing group of mages, not all rebelling mages, but I predict there will be an extremist group opposite the red templars. Lambert and Adrian should make fitting trophies for those who oppose the will of the Divine Inquisitor.
Okay, we are making progress. 
So we all think that while the more extremist elements fight, the more moderate members of each faction will at least attempt to reach a compromise.
So we all think that while the more extremist elements fight, the more moderate members of each faction will at least attempt to reach a compromise.
If you think having the belief that magic and mages alike need be contained and you take that vow over former allegiance to the Divine as extremism...Sure.
If you think having the belief that magic and mages alike need be contained and you take that vow over former allegiance to the Divine as extremism...Sure.
I was referring more of the zealous groups like the Red Templars and Blood Mages, actually.
Does anyone have any ideas about how Justina might respond to the non-Andrastian Inquisitor? I'm wondering if she might send Leliana to speak with the Inquisitor about a possible meeting, given the Coronation art that suggests an optional alliance with the Chantry might be possible.
However, I'm wondering how the delicate Qunari situation, the monopoly on lyrium with templar and Circle defection, or the fall of the Dales and hunting of the clans would color the meeting with the Inquisitor from the respective racial background.
Oh man, a dalish anything will have sooo much to talk about.
I can see that ending in a slammed door.
Does anyone have any ideas about how Justina might respond to the non-Andrastian Inquisitor? I'm wondering if she might send Leliana to speak with the Inquisitor about a possible meeting, given the Coronation art that suggests an optional alliance with the Chantry might be possible.
However, I'm wondering how the delicate Qunari situation, the monopoly on lyrium with templar and Circle defection, or the fall of the Dales and hunting of the clans would color the meeting with the Inquisitor from the respective racial background.
I don't think it would for her. These are desperate times, and desperate times call for desperate measures.
First by forcing them to come to peace talks, then after whatever occurs from that exerting political and moral pressures and if the player is agreeable coronating the Inquisitor as having the support of the Chantry against the vileness of Lambert and his ilk and probably an opposing group of mages, not all rebelling mages, but I predict there will be an extremist group opposite the red templars. Lambert and Adrian should make fitting trophies for those who oppose the will of the Divine Inquisitor.
Sounds plausible. However, if the rumours about the peace conference were true, maybe that was her first attempt. And ended in disaster.
Although I can't see a schism happening, if the Divine dies, we may see a fight for the throne inside the Chantry (actually, that would give Cassandra and her Seekers a reasonable excuse to join the Inquisition, especially if the restoration of the Inquisition was Justinia's last plan to solve the conflict).
So we all think that while the more extremist elements fight, the more moderate members of each faction will at least attempt to reach a compromise.
Don't worry. The extremists' heads will end up on fancy Orlesian pikes 
Kidding, but that was an actual option on the table before the Orlesian civil war.
Going to ignore TKS because...yeah.
Because you don't have any arguments?
most of current societes would sacrifice you for majority so well it is truth...
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