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[Hanako Ikezawa]

Because you don't have any arguments?

most of current societes would sacrifice you for majority so well it is truth...

No, because it is offtopic and I don't want to get a warning point for arguing against a brick wall. 

[LobselVith8]

I don't think it would for her. These are desperate times, and desperate times call for desperate measures.

What do you think they might discuss, if Justina does meet with the Inquisitor? The Inquisition, perhaps?

[TheKomandorShepard]

No, because it is offtopic and I don't want to get a warning point for arguing against a brick wall. 

Hah yep and none one forces you to argue with brick wall it would be a little crazy to do so well... not my fault that im right

 

we discuss here about divine stupidity so we argue what she did and what was lambert role...

[Hanako Ikezawa]

What do you think they might discuss, if Justina does meet with the Divine? The Inquisition, perhaps?

You mean the Inquisitor meets with the Divine? If Justinia had a meeting with herself, that begs some answers.

 

But yes, that would be most likely. Perhaps she'll propose that by ending the war or even lessening it, your job of sealing the Veil Tears will be easier. Cooperative symbiosis. 

[Master Warder Z_]

I was referring more of the zealous groups like the Red Templars and Blood Mages, actually.  

 

Ah, Well i encounter the belief that the "renegade" Templars in their entirety are Extremists upon occasion, My mistake.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Hah yep and none one forces you to argue with brick wall it would be a little crazy to do so well... not my fault that im right

 

we discuss here about divine stupidity so we argue what she did and what was lambert role...

*pats TKS's head* You keep telling yourself that. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Ah, Well i encounter the belief that the "renegade" Templars in their entirety are Extremists upon occasion, My mistake.

No worries. Renegade may be a better term to use in the future, since I'm pretty sure the Blood Mages fit that just as well as the Red Templars do.

 

The Templars and Mages who simply left the Chantry aren't really renegade since due to the Accords they are legally in their right to do so.

[Master Warder Z_]

No worries. Renegade may be a better term to use in the future, since I'm pretty sure the Blood Mages fit that just as well as the Red Templars do.

 

I prefer the term "Independent" Templars.

 

Given they had legal authority to break away.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I prefer the term "Independent" Templars.

 

Given they had legal authority to break away.

I edited that in later. I don't consider either side in a whole to be renegade since as you said, they both had the legal right to break away from the current system.

[Mistic]

What do you think they might discuss, if Justina does meet with the Inquisitor? The Inquisition, perhaps?

 

I think she would be an open-minded woman, no matter who the Inquisitor is. No matter even if they are pagan. After all, I can recall the mothers at the local temples not having any problem with a dawrf or a Dalish Warden. Justinia seems the same kind of woman (for better or worse).

[TheKomandorShepard]

*pats TKS's head* You keep telling yourself that. 

i don't have to usually reality keep telling that

[Hanako Ikezawa]

i don't have to usually reality keep telling that

True, but then Thedas isn't reality. If I wanted the terrible atmosphere that reality offers, I'll go outside. 

[TheKomandorShepard]

True, but then Thedas isn't reality. If I wanted the terrible atmosphere that reality offers, I'll go outside. 

Well every world have own reality real world and thedas have smiliar in practice only difference is that thedas have magic and other species but pretty much human stays the same.

[LobselVith8]

You mean the Inquisitor meets with the Divine? If Justinia had a meeting with herself, that begs some answers.

Blame my kitten. He was just neutered and decided to grab my head with his nails-trimmed paws. Either that, or he has foresight into time travel being in the future of Dragon Age.

But yes, that would be most likely. Perhaps she'll propose that by ending the war or even lessening it, your job of sealing the Veil Tears will be easier. Cooperative symbiosis.

I could see that being the path, opening the door for the player to side with the Chantry as one of the possible forks in the road. It would explain Leliana's likely appearance in the coronation artwork.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well every world have own reality real world and thedas have smiliar in practice only difference is that thedas have magic and other species but pretty much human stays the same.

Yeah, but unlike reality video game realities tend to have the world overcome those things.

 

Regardless, as I said this is offtopic so it should stop. Neither of us has even said the word Justinia in the past 4 posts.

[Master Warder Z_]

Blame my kitten

 

KITTY!

[wcholcombe]

Does anyone have any ideas about how Justina might respond to the non-Andrastian Inquisitor? I'm wondering if she might send Leliana to speak with the Inquisitor about a possible meeting, given the Coronation art that suggests an optional alliance with the Chantry might be possible.

However, I'm wondering how the delicate Qunari situation, the monopoly on lyrium with templar and Circle defection, or the fall of the Dales and hunting of the clans would color the meeting with the Inquisitor from the respective racial background.

Justinia strikes me as a pragmatic realist.  She had seen that the Templar mage situation was unteenable, and I believe she feels some of the rulers of Chantry countries were reaching the same conclusions.  Is she truly liberal in her thinking I don't know, but I do believe she is committed to Chantry reform on a massive scale. Chantry reform would include reform towards the treatment of non-humans.  I think Chantry support is included in Celene's offer to the elves/Dalish regarding self government and more rights.  That wouldn't be something she would extend if she was worried about the chantry preaching against it in every chantry in Orlais.  I feel she would be very open.  Now, religious tolerance might be different, but she definitely strikes me as someone who could work with people she didn't necessarily agree with.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Blame my kitten. He was just neutered and decided to grab my head with his nails-trimmed paws. Either that, or he has foresight into time travel being in the future of Dragon Age.


I could see that being the path, opening the door for the player to side with the Chantry as one of the possible forks in the road. It would explain Leliana's likely appearance in the coronation artwork.

Indeed. It also would explain Cassandra's presence as a companion. Something along the lines of, "Whether you help me or not, I will still aid you since the Veil Tears affect us all. I will give you access to some of our resources. I will also let my most able soldier Cassandra aid you in your quest." 

[TheKomandorShepard]

Yeah, but unlike reality video game realities tend to have the world overcome those things.

 

Regardless, as I said this is offtopic so it should stop. Neither of us has even said the word Justinia in the past 4 posts.

 

depending how idealistić or cynical setting is dragon age lands in second category so well...

 

 

Justinia strikes me as a pragmatic realist.  She had seen that the Templar mage situation was unteenable, and I believe she feels some of the rulers of Chantry countries were reaching the same conclusions.  Is she truly liberal in her thinking I don't know, but I do believe she is committed to Chantry reform on a massive scale. Chantry reform would include reform towards the treatment of non-humans.  I think Chantry support is included in Celene's offer to the elves/Dalish regarding self government and more rights.  That wouldn't be something she would extend if she was worried about the chantry preaching against it in every chantry in Orlais.  I feel she would be very open.  Now, religious tolerance might be different, but she definitely strikes me as someone who could work with people she didn't necessarily agree with.

 

[wcholcombe]

Adrian anyway.

 

No way i'd ever lay a finger on Lambert unless if he did a serious 180, He starts preaching like Thrask and i will be the first to be in line to kick his bones in, until then though? Man is Golden.

See, that is the difference between you as a Templar Inquisitor and me as a Divine Inquisitor, plus, my name sounds so much cooler.

[Master Warder Z_]

See, that is the difference between you as a Templar Inquisitor and me as a Divine Inquisitor, plus, my name sounds so much cooler.

 

Pfft

 

Do the bidding of the in the closet Mother all you like, Personally? I'd like some one a bit more firm in conviction and a bit less likely to sell state secrets for a tryst in the bedroom.

[wcholcombe]

Pfft

 

Do the bidding of the in the closet Mother all you like, Personally? I'd like some one a bit more firm in conviction and a bit less likely to sell state secrets for a tryst in the bedroom.

Personally I think it shows plenty of firm conviction to realize your organization needs reform and to push it through despite the risks and concerns.

[Mistic]

But Lambert wasn't declared disappeared in World of Thedas? That would mean the current leader of the rebelling Seekers-Templars is another person. Who knows what kind of person he or she will be like.

[Xilizhra]

But Lambert wasn't declared disappeared in World of Thedas? That would mean the current leader of the rebelling Seekers-Templars is another person. Who knows what kind of person he or she will be like.

Probably no single person. I predict the leader of the largest rogue templar group will head the Red Templars, with the rest being independent bands who have iffy coordination and growing drug problems.

[Mistic]

Probably no single person. I predict the leader of the largest rogue templar group will head the Red Templars, with the rest being independent bands who have iffy coordination and growing drug problems.

 

My opinion is that the Red Templars will be the minor, rogue faction (like a Templar equivalent of the blood mages). Lambert already put together fifteen Knight-Commanders and the Templars are very militarized, so I suppose they won't find it difficult to find a replacement for their leader.

 

But the addiction is a problem, yes. I suppose it will be adressed in the game.