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[Rinshikai10]

Well, could she try to gain some support from Nerarra by sending Cassandra to her family, and Sebastian to Starkhaven if she gained him as an ally. Both appear to be loyal to the Chantry in some form. However, at the same time this may have a similar effect to what Celene was trying to do in Ferelden.

From what I can gather Leliana is seen as a hero of the blight regardless of the choices we make. (correct me if I'm wrong) Its possible that she could try to speak the nobles of Ferelden on Justinias behalf, believing that because her mother was Ferelden, they will be less hostile to the Chantry.

However, the one flaw I can see with this plan, is exactly like the problem of using Wynne to take to the Mages. If she is seen as a Fereldan, working for the Chantry and Orlais will look shes a trader.

Any thoughts, on the other nations like the Anderfels, or Antiva?

[TheKomandorShepard]

Rinshikai10 wrote...

Well, could she try to gain some support from Nerarra by sending Cassandra to her family, and Sebastian to Starkhaven if she gained him as an ally. Both appear to be loyal to the Chantry in some form. However, at the same time this may have a similar effect to what Celene was trying to do in Ferelden.

From what I can gather Leliana is seen as a hero of the blight regardless of the choices we make. (correct me if I'm wrong) Its possible that she could try to speak the nobles of Ferelden on Justinias behalf, believing that because her mother was Ferelden, they will be less hostile to the Chantry.

However, the one flaw I can see with this plan, is exactly like the problem of using Wynne to take to the Mages. If she is seen as a Fereldan, working for the Chantry and Orlais will look shes a trader.

Any thoughts, on the other nations like the Anderfels, or Antiva?

Whether leliana had popularity in ferelden depends on warden actions she had biggest if she is warden lover and when you don't recruit her she is no one similarly when you killed her , and that she is orlesian don't help her even is she is from ferelden but her culture is orlesian.Well in my gameplay it is terrible twisted my warden is a mage and pro-mage and don't like chantry too much but leliana is his lover also warden asked for mage independence so i can imagine that he do something more to help mages and that would be lead to conflict between them what would weaken her position in ferelden. 

I don't see also that Cassandra gain some influence in Nerarra she was seeker for most of her life and don't have any power there well if she had many years and a lot successful intrigues she would have power there.

I don't think that sebastin is divine ally because divine don't know what happened in kirkwall i don't even mention isn't in charge yet and probably if you spare anders he is now super-anti mage and look for anders.

As i said better for divine that she stay silent than she do something more and screws her situatuion entirely. I can see alistair as her ally in ferelden , anora less likely. 

Problem is there what is divine goal stop mage-templar war or close veil i guess former so support other nations won't help her in that . I guess that Inquisition goal will be also stop any war in thedas and close veil but that organisation won't be chantry organiastion so i doubt that Dorothea (Justinia) will have influence. 

I can also suspect that a lot peoples want her dead mages, templars from Lambert and orlesian nobles and maybe even Anders if alive have gift for her. 

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 31 juillet 2013 - 02:17 .

[Rinshikai10]

The reason I selected these three as examples is due to there views being mostly pro chantry.

Cassandra has been a Seeker nearly 20 years, but she is also blood related to the ruling family of Neverra. She may even be part of the main branch, which could give her ties to the throne. However, I agree that being a Seeker for that long may not work in her favor. Leaving that front of the Empire hostile.

Sebastian is one of the more Pro Chantry characters that I have seen is the DA world. His home of Starkhaven from what I can remember is a strong follower of the Chantry. Which could be a foothold for the Divine in the Free Marches.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Rinshikai10 wrote...

The reason I selected these three as examples is due to there views being mostly pro chantry.

Cassandra has been a Seeker nearly 20 years, but she is also blood related to the ruling family of Neverra. She may even be part of the main branch, which could give her ties to the throne. However, I agree that being a Seeker for that long may not work in her favor. Leaving that front of the Empire hostile.

Sebastian is one of the more Pro Chantry characters that I have seen is the DA world. His home of Starkhaven from what I can remember is a strong follower of the Chantry. Which could be a foothold for the Divine in the Free Marches.

Well yes but she can't just show in Neverra and say "i m a queen now" even sebastian who have rights to rule need many years to gain power and still don't have retake his city and as you said she is seeker.

Sebastian doesn't retake Starkhaven yet at least in da 2 as i renember somone else is in charge , and Free Marches are not subordinate to Starkhaven.

[Rinshikai10]

I agree with you on the other cities are not under the command of Starkhaven. I was trying to point out that this city may be Justinia's best hope of gaining ground in the Free Marches. Due to the City having a good relationship with the Chantry.

From both endings of DA2 it appears that the Templars have a firm hold in Kirkwall, and the Wardens controlling Amarathine (from quests in game), which could limit how much the Divine can maneuver in the southeastern part of Thedas. If she can't travel by sea to Starkhaven, then the only way is though Nevarra. Which may, or may not be safe to travel.

If Cassandra can be used to talk with her royal relatives it maybe possible to travel though Nevarra without problems. However, like you said she may not be able to do anything after being with the Seekers for so long.

At this point, I disagree with you on Justinia doing nothing. I found that was her problem before Asunder.

But that's just my opinion at this point.

Modifié par Rinshikai10, 01 août 2013 - 04:14 .

[dragonflight288]

Rinshikai10 wrote...

The point I'm trying to get at is, yes, Justinia dropped the ball and now she is in a really bad situation. Where trying to impose her view, or the use of heavy handed tactics will do more harm then good. Leaving her only the possibility to negotiate with nations leaders, to try and fix the problems which now plague the Chantry and Orlais.

I guess the question should be, how would Justinia try to gain support from the nations of Thedas. After the events of Asunder.

Any thoughts?

I bolded the part I'm responding to.

In my mind, the fact that it's being said that she needs to fix problems for the chantry as well as Orlais is an issue in and of itself.

One of my biggest problems with the Chantry is that it's been in bed with Orlais since it's inception. It has favored Orlais continually throughout history, nearly named the Dragon Age the Sun Age in honor Orlesian supremecy, and even then it was rumored that the Dragon Age name came in support of the orlesians about to fight Loghain. The Chantry have been largely hypocrites as an organization at an an institutional level when it comes to magic, blood magic, and so on. Everything they teach revolves on the chantry being sung from all four corners of the world, and have shown they are not afraid of Exalted Marching others, or committing genocide for stupid reasons.

Not just Meredith and her "the people will demand blood" in Kirkwall, but also Rivain...twice. The first time was the Chantry's response to the qunari born in Rivain, the men and elves, who refused to leave as part of the Llmarryn Accords said they should, so they called an Exalted March and slaughtered them grandscale, to such a degree that the veil was sundered. They then denied doing it. The second time was when they declared a Rite of Annulment on the Circle in Rivain for the high crime of the staying in contact with family members (World of Thedas)

From where I'm sitting, I think it's a huge mistake to think the Chantry should get involved with Orlais' civil war. They were nearly kicked out of Ferelden because they were seen more as an Orlesian organization than a religious one after the Battle of River Dane. They aren't trusted by non-orlesians whenever Orlais is in the picture.

I think Justinia will meet much more success if she focused strictly on the religious teachings, and remove themselves from Orlais completely. I think they should have a small force of templars (if they all haven't deserted the Chantry to join the mage hunt) who are put under heavy oversight to make sure they don't abuse their power, and if mages come back (highly unlikely) then they not have power over mages by Divine Right, nor should Templars get to decide the fate of Mages on a whim.

It's going to be a tough balance, and I don't think she'll be able to handle the political situation. The Chantry just has too much history of getting involved with politics that I simply don't trust the Chantry, and I think they should focus strictly on being a religion and leave politics out of it.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Rinshikai10 wrote...

I agree with you on the other cities are not under the command of Starkhaven. I was trying to point out that this city may be Justinia's best hope of gaining ground in the Free Marches. Due to the City having a good relationship with the Chantry.

From both endings of DA2 it appears that the Templars have a firm hold in Kirkwall, and the Wardens controlling Amarathine (from quests in game), which could limit how much the Divine can maneuver in the southeastern part of Thedas. If she can't travel by sea to Starkhaven, then the only way is though Nevarra. Which may, or may not be safe to travel.

If Cassandra can be used to talk with her royal relatives it maybe possible to travel though Nevarra without problems. However, like you said she may not be able to do anything after being with the Seekers for so long.

At this point, I disagree with you on Justinia doing nothing. I found that was her problem before Asunder.

But that's just my opinion at this point.

Her problem was that she not only did nothing for most time and in Asunder too , but also she dig under both fractions offending for what they fight mages freedom and templar control so she end alone. She tried be chessmaster but she isn't in that case will be better for world if she will get situation in hand real chessmaster because if she screws something else that won't be storm only tsunami.

You overestimating her she is not so powerful she lost military force and i can guess for mess in world mages will get 3/4 hatred chantry 1/4 as ending shows she is extremely desperate and now probably Starkhaven  is in conflict between current ruler and Sebastian.Add that not every noble is devout to chantry or maker and is more interested in power ,chantry fell apart so chantry word mean alomst nothing peoples have own concerns and peasants word is unimportant unless they start revolution for what in their case is necessary strong charismatic and intelligent leader who leads them unless this will be 5 second revolution . If she could resolve conflicts she may have some allies but that will our goal i guess.

Anderfels is most devout country so maybe there but grey wardens may be not happy with that.     

Oh and some time ago i was rumor about game that powerful explosion killed chantry leaders if true she can be one of them.

Templars still rule in Kirkwall even i mage ending or maybe the lost power there?

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 01 août 2013 - 04:57 .

[Rinshikai10]

@ dragonflight288

It's good to see you back on the forums. I agree we you on the Chantry being removed from the political side of things. However, I also believe that they must also stay out of any form of military affair. Meaning they should not have the power to do Exalted Marches, and have no military of there own. (Templars, Seekers)

I also don't place any trust in the Chantry, or Justinia due to a failure of leadership skills and an idealistic approach to a situation that demanded a grounded approach.

IMHO Justinia become Divine, and is doing what she does, not because its the morally right thing to do. But because, like Leliana, she appears to believe that some grant gesture is the only way to atone for her past.

The reason way I'm suggesting she try to negotiate with nation leaders, is mainly me hypothesizing what may happen in DAI if she is still alive. From what I can gather the Chantry may not be able to impose itself on Thedas without its Templars or Seekers, thanks to Justinia playing both sides, and losing the trust of so many.

@TheKomandorShepard

At this point I think the Templar are still in control of Kirkwall. Regardless of which side you choose in game, the Templars have control.

[Eternal Phoenix]

Justinia is HOT.

I want her for a casual hookup who we can abandon afterwards before destroying the Chantry once and for all before establishing a Templar kingdom.

[dragonflight288]

Rinshikai10 wrote...

@ dragonflight288

It's good to see you back on the forums. I agree we you on the Chantry being removed from the political side of things. However, I also believe that they must also stay out of any form of military affair. Meaning they should not have the power to do Exalted Marches, and have no military of there own. (Templars, Seekers)

I also don't place any trust in the Chantry, or Justinia due to a failure of leadership skills and an idealistic approach to a situation that demanded a grounded approach.

IMHO Justinia become Divine, and is doing what she does, not because its the morally right thing to do. But because, like Leliana, she appears to believe that some grant gesture is the only way to atone for her past.

The reason way I'm suggesting she try to negotiate with nation leaders, is mainly me hypothesizing what may happen in DAI if she is still alive. From what I can gather the Chantry may not be able to impose itself on Thedas without its Templars or Seekers, thanks to Justinia playing both sides, and losing the trust of so many.

@TheKomandorShepard

At this point I think the Templar are still in control of Kirkwall. Regardless of which side you choose in game, the Templars have control.

It's good to be back on the forums. I've been busy in real life.

And yes, the Chantry should stay out of military powers. I don't think that's going to happen because the templars/seekers need to be reigned in, and the Chantry as an organization is probably the only one with the clout world-wide to do so. It won't be easy, it'll be messy and there will be a lot of fighting, and no matter which side the gamers choose, they will have to deal with zealots who will go all in, and when the chips are down, it'll likely be a blood bath, whether from an opinionated Libertarian who refuses the Chantry any control whatsoever, or a Seeker/Templar who absolutely refuses to rid themselves of the power over others that they have enjoyed for so many centuries.

Justinia is in for a very rough ride. She can probably be a glorified puppet Divine to the Inquisitor, whom we play as, for all we know, or she may be our boss and gives us the mandate to restore peace to the world, and gives us free reign on how to accomplish this task.

[Rinshikai10]

dragonflight288 wrote...

Rinshikai10 wrote...

@ dragonflight288

It's good to see you back on the forums. I agree we you on the Chantry being removed from the political side of things. However, I also believe that they must also stay out of any form of military affair. Meaning they should not have the power to do Exalted Marches, and have no military of there own. (Templars, Seekers)

I also don't place any trust in the Chantry, or Justinia due to a failure of leadership skills and an idealistic approach to a situation that demanded a grounded approach.

IMHO Justinia become Divine, and is doing what she does, not because its the morally right thing to do. But because, like Leliana, she appears to believe that some grant gesture is the only way to atone for her past.

The reason way I'm suggesting she try to negotiate with nation leaders, is mainly me hypothesizing what may happen in DAI if she is still alive. From what I can gather the Chantry may not be able to impose itself on Thedas without its Templars or Seekers, thanks to Justinia playing both sides, and losing the trust of so many.

@TheKomandorShepard

At this point I think the Templar are still in control of Kirkwall. Regardless of which side you choose in game, the Templars have control.

It's good to be back on the forums. I've been busy in real life.

And yes, the Chantry should stay out of military powers. I don't think that's going to happen because the templars/seekers need to be reigned in, and the Chantry as an organization is probably the only one with the clout world-wide to do so. It won't be easy, it'll be messy and there will be a lot of fighting, and no matter which side the gamers choose, they will have to deal with zealots who will go all in, and when the chips are down, it'll likely be a blood bath, whether from an opinionated Libertarian who refuses the Chantry any control whatsoever, or a Seeker/Templar who absolutely refuses to rid themselves of the power over others that they have enjoyed for so many centuries.

Justinia is in for a very rough ride. She can probably be a glorified puppet Divine to the Inquisitor, whom we play as, for all we know, or she may be our boss and gives us the mandate to restore peace to the world, and gives us free reign on how to accomplish this task.

From all the information that I have seen from the Dev, it would appear that we are not going to be forced to work for the Chantry.

While I agree that the Chantry is one of the most widespread organizations is Thedas. The Grey Wardens IMHO are even more widespread, being around centuries before the Chantry.

Also appearing to have the respect of none Chantry controlled people like the Qunari. (Sten knows about the Grey Wardens despite spending his whole life in Qun controlled lands, and later appears to respect the Order after the fifth blight. But I could be wrong about that)

Sadly I think Justinia could learn more from the Wardens then the COL on being a leader.


But that is just my opinion at this point.

[dragonflight288]

Rinshikai10 wrote...

dragonflight288 wrote...

Rinshikai10 wrote...

@ dragonflight288

It's good to see you back on the forums. I agree we you on the Chantry being removed from the political side of things. However, I also believe that they must also stay out of any form of military affair. Meaning they should not have the power to do Exalted Marches, and have no military of there own. (Templars, Seekers)

I also don't place any trust in the Chantry, or Justinia due to a failure of leadership skills and an idealistic approach to a situation that demanded a grounded approach.

IMHO Justinia become Divine, and is doing what she does, not because its the morally right thing to do. But because, like Leliana, she appears to believe that some grant gesture is the only way to atone for her past.

The reason way I'm suggesting she try to negotiate with nation leaders, is mainly me hypothesizing what may happen in DAI if she is still alive. From what I can gather the Chantry may not be able to impose itself on Thedas without its Templars or Seekers, thanks to Justinia playing both sides, and losing the trust of so many.

@TheKomandorShepard

At this point I think the Templar are still in control of Kirkwall. Regardless of which side you choose in game, the Templars have control.

It's good to be back on the forums. I've been busy in real life.

And yes, the Chantry should stay out of military powers. I don't think that's going to happen because the templars/seekers need to be reigned in, and the Chantry as an organization is probably the only one with the clout world-wide to do so. It won't be easy, it'll be messy and there will be a lot of fighting, and no matter which side the gamers choose, they will have to deal with zealots who will go all in, and when the chips are down, it'll likely be a blood bath, whether from an opinionated Libertarian who refuses the Chantry any control whatsoever, or a Seeker/Templar who absolutely refuses to rid themselves of the power over others that they have enjoyed for so many centuries.

Justinia is in for a very rough ride. She can probably be a glorified puppet Divine to the Inquisitor, whom we play as, for all we know, or she may be our boss and gives us the mandate to restore peace to the world, and gives us free reign on how to accomplish this task.

From all the information that I have seen from the Dev, it would appear that we are not going to be forced to work for the Chantry.

While I agree that the Chantry is one of the most widespread organizations is Thedas. The Grey Wardens IMHO are even more widespread, being around centuries before the Chantry.

Also appearing to have the respect of none Chantry controlled people like the Qunari. (Sten knows about the Grey Wardens despite spending his whole life in Qun controlled lands, and later appears to respect the Order after the fifth blight. But I could be wrong about that)

Sadly I think Justinia could learn more from the Wardens then the COL on being a leader.


But that is just my opinion at this point.

Yeah, but because of all the treaties, the Wardens are supposed to be completely neutral and not get involved at all. And the Qunari won't try to make things better. They'll simply try to make everyone follow the Qun.

We may not be forced to work for the Chantry, but the Chantry, at this point in Thedas history, is the closest to a blank slate than any other group, because they've lost their teeth in the form of templars and seekers, but still maintain their religious influence.

[Rinshikai10]

I think your miss understanding me Dragonflight288. The point I was trying to make was Justinia and the Chantry are limited to nations under the Andrastian faith. The Wardens on the other hand are not limited by faith, and possibly have good relationships with none Andrastian nations, by being diplomatic rather then threatening.

I believe that the Inquisition will be a blank slate in the next game but, I strongly disagree with out Chantry being one.

[dragonflight288]

Rinshikai10 wrote...

I think your miss understanding me Dragonflight288. The point I was trying to make was Justinia and the Chantry are limited to nations under the Andrastian faith. The Wardens on the other hand are not limited by faith, and possibly have good relationships with none Andrastian nations, by being diplomatic rather then threatening.

I believe that the Inquisition will be a blank slate in the next game but, I strongly disagree with out Chantry being one.

Hmm. Well we'll see. The Chantry is the closest to a blank slate than ever before in its history. It won't be, of course. The Wardens aren't either, and while their organization is also world-wide, they are supposed to be politically neutral.

It's true the Inquisition will be the closest to a blank slate in the game world, but that leads to several questions. How do we form? Do we set our command structure? How are we going to prove we should be taken seriously as a powerful political force in a world where everyone is killing each other?

Personally, I am most likely wrong and I admit it, but we have to have some form of Chantry connection, whether or not it's a permanent connection is a completely different matter. That or we have to have Seeker or Templar connections because the original Inquisition became the modern templars and seekers when brought into the Chantry.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Rinshikai10 wrote...

I think your miss understanding me Dragonflight288. The point I was trying to make was Justinia and the Chantry are limited to nations under the Andrastian faith. The Wardens on the other hand are not limited by faith, and possibly have good relationships with none Andrastian nations, by being diplomatic rather then threatening.

I believe that the Inquisition will be a blank slate in the next game but, I strongly disagree with out Chantry being one.

Well we know that first warden is very greedy and power-hungry and when morally questionable organisation like wardens starts accuse you of being **** it is not good sign , soo with that good relationship i can aruge especially in Ferelden when if we burn city peoples hate grey wardens.

[Rinshikai10]

@dragonflight288

In a perfect world I would agree with you, that the Wardens must be politically neutral. However, like any organization that is very rare at the best of times. Since DAOA I get the feeling that the order is trying to adapt to the situation provided, to show that even outside the Blights the order has use to the nations of Thedas.

While the Chantry is trying to impose there purpose, and makes little effort to change themselves for the better. I know that Justinia was trying to change the Circle system, but it feels like she only tried to change the bare minimum, while keeping the core of the Chantry the same. Even though that was one of its key problems IMHO.

IMHO the title of the Inquisition was not the best choice to make due to its connection to the Chantry. Yet I am hopeful that we will not need to be loyal to them.

@TheKomandorShepard

Even so The Wardens have turned Amarathine into a major trading hub since they were given control of it. Evidence in DA2 (both Warden Quests) show that they are doing quite well for themselves.

[dragonflight288]

In a perfect world I would agree with you, that the Wardens must be politically neutral. However, like any organization that is very rare at the best of times. Since DAOA I get the feeling that the order is trying to adapt to the situation provided, to show that even outside the Blights the order has use to the nations of Thedas.

While the Chantry is trying to impose there purpose, and makes little effort to change themselves for the better. I know that Justinia was trying to change the Circle system, but it feels like she only tried to change the bare minimum, while keeping the core of the Chantry the same. Even though that was one of its key problems IMHO.

IMHO the title of the Inquisition was not the best choice to make due to its connection to the Chantry. Yet I am hopeful that we will not need to be loyal to them.

True on the Grey Wardens. For all we know, we may start off as a templar recruit or something, as an origin, or we are side-by-side with Hawke at the beginning, see Hawke die or something, and we gather survivors of a great battle and form our own independent organization, from which we start earning respect throughout the world by going throughout Thedas to save the world from itself

[TheKomandorShepard]

Rinshikai10 wrote...
 
@TheKomandorShepard

Even so The Wardens have turned Amarathine into a major trading hub since they were given control of it. Evidence in DA2 (both Warden Quests) show that they are doing quite well for themselves.

You mean our warden not the wardens xD . I guess that whether Amaranthine is in good condition depends on our choices like improving keep and creating silver order and others , and when we burn Amaranthine then some nobles plot against our warden and warden have to be careful in that what he do. I m only intrested how long the warden was warden commander because my character leave them in ending origins and wasn't much fond of them. 

[Rinshikai10]

@TheKomandorShepard

I agree that our choices will effect Amaranthines condition. The main point I was trying to reach was comparing the Wardens style of governing to that of the Chantry and Justinia.

From the info in WOT the Wardens Commanders are required to send yearly reports to the Anderfels HQ. When looking at the Templars and Grand Clerics I don't see them doing this unless its urgent. Otherwise Justinia would have investigated sooner.

While Justinia is good with the faith side of the Chantry, she lacks is others, such as communicating with the factions under. Evident in Asunder when the only Mage she talks to directly is Wynne.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Rinshikai10 wrote...

@TheKomandorShepard

I agree that our choices will effect Amaranthines condition. The main point I was trying to reach was comparing the Wardens style of governing to that of the Chantry and Justinia.

From the info in WOT the Wardens Commanders are required to send yearly reports to the Anderfels HQ. When looking at the Templars and Grand Clerics I don't see them doing this unless its urgent. Otherwise Justinia would have investigated sooner.

While Justinia is good with the faith side of the Chantry, she lacks is others, such as communicating with the factions under. Evident in Asunder when the only Mage she talks to directly is Wynne.

You mean she didn't knew what happen in kirkwall?I think she know what meredith was doing she just don't care she send leliana to put down rebelion because that would destroy her power ,and you want tell me that everyone in city know that but spy send by divine not ,the only thing that she didn't knew was what happend in day rebelion and what was with hawke. Leliana attitude clearly shows that she (as leliana is dorothea puppet like she was to marjolene) barely tolerate libertarians so divine isn't so saint she will only tolerate mages as longs they will be chantry puppets like wynne it is clear that her priority is chantry.I rly hope that my only relationship with chantry will be crushing their influence because as we chantry prove doesn't deserve to hold power.   

[Todd23]

How much does it matter? Doesn't she die in some sort of peace summit anyways? I'm more curious as to who's responsible; Flemeth, and/or the person destroying the veil.

[Lord Raijin]

Elton John is dead wrote...

Justinia is HOT.

I want her for a casual hookup who we can abandon afterwards before destroying the Chantry once and for all before establishing a Templar kingdom.

As a mage player I think shes also hot The only way to resolve this war between the Templars/Seekers and the Mages is if I get to second base with Divine Justinia. It's the only way to stop the war.

Make love not war... I want to romanace with this woman.

Modifié par Lord Raijin, 03 août 2013 - 09:41 .

[TheKomandorShepard]

Lord Raijin wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

Justinia is HOT.

I want her for a casual hookup who we can abandon afterwards before destroying the Chantry once and for all before establishing a Templar kingdom.

As a mage player I think shes also hot The only way to resolve this war between the Templars/Seekers and the Mages is if I get to second base with Divine Justinia. It's the only way to stop the war.

Make love not war... I want to romanace with this woman.

Wait wait how do you know that she is hot we don't even see her except leliana song and there her age was some around 30 and that was 12-13 years ago.

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 03 août 2013 - 10:09 .

[Rinshikai10]

Todd23 wrote...

How much does it matter? Doesn't she die in some sort of peace summit anyways? I'm more curious as to who's responsible; Flemeth, and/or the person destroying the veil.

I wouldn't take the leaked survey as 100% fact. Any game can change dramatically in just a few months,(I have seen it happen with my own game team back in collage.) Usually all games are different from the original idea.

Could you elaborate on what I have put in bold?

[Todd23]

Rinshikai10 wrote...

Todd23 wrote...

How much does it matter? Doesn't she die in some sort of peace summit anyways? I'm more curious as to who's responsible; Flemeth, and/or the person destroying the veil.

I wouldn't take the leaked survey as 100% fact. Any game can change dramatically in just a few months,(I have seen it happen with my own game team back in collage.) Usually all games are different from the original idea.

Could you elaborate on what I have put in bold?

So far everything they've revealed about the game has been proving the survey 100% right.  In the survey it states that this specific death/destruction makes it clear that someone is manipulating events to plunge the world in to chaos.  I take that to meaning that not only did someone cause this tragic event, but it is the same one sending the world on the brink of war.