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Best sniper rifle for someone just learning to be a sniper?


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#51
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The Valiant and Incisor are probably two good snipers to start with. The Valiant is a bit underpowered but the Incisor is surprisingly good against Geth, especially with Phasic Ammo.

The BW is very powerful, but the reload time (even with RC) and shot time is much slower. This leaves less room for error if you miss.  It's also much heavier so it will restrict power usage like overload, snap freeze, stasis etc which are very good powers for setting up enemies for a head shot.

Just IMHO ;)

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Caldari Ghost wrote...

mrs_anomaly wrote...

Black Widow IMO.

maybe. in my experience black widow deteriorates my aim. I recommend any single-shot rifle if you are serious about sniping.


This is a good point. I never really liked the SR's since the TC nerf, but I needed to complete the challenges so I picked them back up. With the geth scanner and enough piercing (mod+drill ammo III), you can shoot just about anything you can see, regarless of the cover used.

If you are serious about wanting to snipe, you should start with the Widow (+scanner+piercing), since you will want to become efficient with the one shot snipers.

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Incisor = stability mod or barrage gear a must unless on a turian.

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I started with the Mantis X, then the Valiant and finally the BW.

I found the easiest way to get kills with any sniper rifle was with the salarian engineer or infiltrator. Simply because energy drain causes mooks and the like to freeze, normally with the head in the air, while they shake. That gives you a second or two to line them up.

Plus, it strips shields of shielded opponents, giving you the chance for an easy 1 shot kill.

If you have energy drain with area effect, you can get a quick 2-3 kills with a BW or valiant.

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What the hell is wrong with Kishok Harpoon gun ...not a single post about it

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playfarcry wrote...

What the hell is wrong with Kishok Harpoon gun ...not a single post about it


Doesn't pierce cover. At least that's why I don't like it.

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HolyAvenger wrote...

Incisor = stability mod or barrage gear a must unless on a turian.


You play with a touchpad, no wonder you need stability mods...   -_-




I think, OP, that you should just slap the javelin on a non-stagger power class (geth trooper weapons platform is perfect) and throw yourself in at the deep end. If you rely on stagger powers in order to snipe you'll never learn to snipe without them.

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I tried the Mantis X with Drill Rounds, Extended Barrel and Enhanced Scope for a couple of games and so far that's what I've done the best with.

Edit:  So far my favorite class for using SRs is the Human Infiltrator.

Modifié par dbollendorf, 15 avril 2013 - 04:35 .


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Javelin with the SI since you can kill many things with body shots and energy drain also staggers for an easy hit.

Cloak -> Energy drain -> Shoot -> Reload cancel and repeat

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The Black Widow and Widow have no firing delay, the Javelin does so you have to learn to compensate, as yours is at lvl 1 spare ammo is going to be a pain, so Spare Thermal clips mod is a must. And just learn to lead the target slightly to anticipate the movement and fire delay. Just go straight for the Javelin, but if you find you have too little ammo, then the BW or Widow might be better.

Phasic rounds are best vs everything, but Warp will suffice for Collectors and Reapers if you don't have them. Disruptor for Geth and Cerberus.

If you're going to use an infiltrator, I assume you already know the clock cool down mechanics, so practice on silver a little then bump it up to Gold.

Beware Phantoms! These b!tches can take a Javelin round to the head from a GI, on host, and not go down. Firing through cover, which is where the Javelin becomes incredibly useful mitigates this.

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Annomander wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

Incisor = stability mod or barrage gear a must unless on a turian.


You play with a touchpad, no wonder you need stability mods...   -_-


 

At least I use my Hurricane without any kind of recoil assistance. 

Nah, there's no real opportunity cost to using a stability mod with a sniper SI for example. I mean, its not like an adrenalin mod or a cyclonic crutch or power amp will make a huge difference (IMO). And it makes it much, much easier to nail headshots.

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billy the squid wrote...


Beware Phantoms! These b!tches can take a Javelin round to the head from a GI, on host, and not go down. Firing through cover, which is where the Javelin becomes incredibly useful mitigates this.

 

Ensure 2m of piercing and this bug can be overcome. :wizard:

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HolyAvenger wrote...

billy the squid wrote...


Beware Phantoms! These b!tches can take a Javelin round to the head from a GI, on host, and not go down. Firing through cover, which is where the Javelin becomes incredibly useful mitigates this.

 

Ensure 2m of piercing and this bug can be overcome. :wizard:


I was using the BW X before, but after managing to gring my way to a Javelin V I've been using it with a HVB and Spare TC, and not looked back. Even on Platinum, with a full damage specced GI, gear and consumables and Phasic 3. I love managing to headshot a Phantom. Especially when she stops for a second, then her head just explodes. Always makes me do this...:D

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If you want to ease into it gently, use Valiant on a Salarian Infiltrator. Doesnt' get much gentler than that.

If you want to jump right into the deep end and either sink or swim, Javelin on Geth Infiltrator. Just be prepared to rage for the first few games.

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dysturbed0ne wrote...

playfarcry wrote...

What the hell is wrong with Kishok Harpoon gun ...not a single post about it


Doesn't pierce cover. At least that's why I don't like it.


you shouldnt ignore the fact that enemies get blown away with every hit ..which is cool to watch :wizard:

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playfarcry wrote...

dysturbed0ne wrote...

playfarcry wrote...

What the hell is wrong with Kishok Harpoon gun ...not a single post about it


Doesn't pierce cover. At least that's why I don't like it.


you shouldnt ignore the fact that enemies get blown away with every hit ..which is cool to watch :wizard:


It is entertaining, I will give it that. I actually just finished using it to get the Resurgence challenge closer to complete. It is functional, but if I want a delayed shot SR, the Javelin wins every time.

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Valiant, Indra, even the mantis is pretty good.

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It depends on your style: do you prefer one shot, multiple-shot, full-auto or non-auto snipers? IMO you have at least 4 different routs.

1, Non-auto weapons (mutliple shots but have to pull the trigger for each):

Raptor: light, easy to get, basically a mattock with scope. Good for all class.
Collector SR: medium weight, you can fire it like a full auto weapon but don't do it. One of the best SR in the game.

Progression:
Raptor > CSR

2, Full auto weapons: these are AR with scopes (more or less).

Incisor: light, good for all classes, accurate but it has a strong muzzle climb; aim for the torso. Good DPS.
Indra: same as the Incisor but without the muzzle climb.

Progression:
Incisor > Indra.

3, Multiple shot SR. These play out as sniper rifles, forgiving as you have more shots.

Viper: light, easy to get, plenty of shots, not so powerful. IMO good starting point.
Valiant: medium weight, 3 shots, shots more powerful.
BW: heavy, 3 shots, most powerful shots out of these three. Has a strong kick-back, best for infiltrators (because of weight). One of the best SRs.

Progression:
Viper > Valiant > BW.

4, One shot SRs.

Mantis: light, easy to get, decent damage. Good even on gold, decent reload time.
Widow: heavy, very powerful, long reload time, reload cancelling helps a lot.
Javelin: very heavy, very powerful, long reload time, reload cancelling helps a lot. Arguably one of the best if not the best SR. On the other hand it has a strange delay with each shot, which might take time to learn (it took me several games). IMO not the best starter weapon.

Progression:
Mantis > Widow > Javelin.

The Krysae and the Kishock are not really snipers. The Krysae is a grenade launcher, the Kishock is a harpoon gun.

Modifié par RTK2Lional, 15 avril 2013 - 05:32 .


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as a new starter for sniping id recomend Viper and valiant and if yo mange to get regular headshots then you might move on to mantis, javelin or widow

also kishock have no hip fire dmg reduction as almost every other SR do and ignores armor but 20% of the dmg is in a bleed and this bleed dosnt gets any dmg bonus from headshots but rest of the shot do and it hits hard

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dysturbed0ne wrote...

playfarcry wrote...

dysturbed0ne wrote...

playfarcry wrote...

What the hell is wrong with Kishok Harpoon gun ...not a single post about it


Doesn't pierce cover. At least that's why I don't like it.


you shouldnt ignore the fact that enemies get blown away with every hit ..which is cool to watch :wizard:


It is entertaining, I will give it that. I actually just finished using it to get the Resurgence challenge closer to complete. It is functional, but if I want a delayed shot SR, the Javelin wins every time.


Javelin fulfills the purpose but its such a bore.. no freebie animation after a clean hit

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Every question that starts with "which is the best sniper rifle" ends in Javelin.

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The Widow

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Deerber wrote...

Every question that starts with "which is the best sniper rifle" ends in Javelin.


but now the question wasnt the best sr it was the best sr to learn how to

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Unlike others who keep jumping to one specific gang fan buss for <enter a sniper rifle here> i will rather give you pointers.

What sort of a play style do you prefer when you snipe?

-Headshots dont matter, just raw and constant damage; Then i suggest you go with Indra if available, if not, viper or Black Widow.
-You prefer sticking to a certain small "patrol" routine. depending on which ones you have. Mantis, Widow, Javelin, all 3 let you drop any mooks with 1 or 2 shots, depending on weapon/weapon level.
-You prefer to get headshots, but want to leave the window open for bodyshots(either patrol or sticking with team); Valiant or Mantis or collector. all offer fast shot correction, and are extremely forgiving on misses.
-You prefer to use the sniper rifle for commando style game play, patrol the whole map, be able to apply ammo powers and your on and off teams visual range(i myself do this but allways close to the team so i use Valiant or krysae or Kishock); Kishock or Krysae. Have a high chance of applying ammo powers. Kishock especially for incendiary, krysae for cryo and disrupt.(based on my own experience with the guns)

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playfarcry wrote...

*snip*

Javelin fulfills the purpose but its such a bore.. no freebie animation after a clean hit


But Killing that Phantom laying in wait, through 2 walls, is very satisfying.