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[dreamgazer]

David7204 wrote...

There might well have been. They obviously didn't succeed, though.

Then we're back to square one: what makes Shepard special?

[Zazzerka]

I think 'special' needs to be properly defined before that question can be asked.

[David7204]

dreamgazer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

There might well have been. They obviously didn't succeed, though.

Then we're back to square one: what makes Shepard special?

From others with courage and other assets? A titanic number of factors that can be summerized as 'luck.'

Modifié par David7204, 07 janvier 2014 - 07:04 .

[AresKeith]

Lee from TWD is more heroic than Shepard

[Ravensword]

dreamgazer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

There might well have been. They obviously didn't succeed, though.

Then we're back to square one: what makes Shepard special?

Answer: heroism.

[wolfhowwl]

dreamgazer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

There might well have been. They obviously didn't succeed, though.

Then we're back to square one: what makes Shepard special?

His mere existence rendered the Reapers utterly incompetent.

[David7204]

I really should call a mod in. This spam is incredibly tedious.

[CosmicGnosis]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Lee from TWD is more heroic than Shepard

I'd like to see Paragon Shepard in TWD universe; I bet his group wouldn't last a month.

Well there are husks in Mass Effect...

[AresKeith]

David7204 wrote...

I really should call a mod in. This spam is incredibly tedious.

Spam that you started lol

[Zazzerka]

I can't be the only person who cringes internally when the 'heroisms' and 'characterisations' start.

[DeinonSlayer]

Zazzerka wrote...

I can't be the only person who cringes internally when the 'heroisms' and 'characterisations' start.

Do what I do and take a shot whenever they appear. 

[Ravensword]

Zazzerka wrote...

I can't be the only person who cringes internally when the 'heroisms' and 'characterisations' start.

I see your Z key is broken.

[Zazzerka]

DeinonSlayer wrote...
Do what I do and take a shot whenever they appear. 

Oh man, I drink too much already without making a game out of the BSN.

Ravensword wrote...

I see your Z key is broken.

Yeah, makes it a real pain in the arse logging in every day.

Modifié par Zazzerka, 07 janvier 2014 - 07:29 .

[Ravensword]

wolfhowwl wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

There might well have been. They obviously didn't succeed, though.

Then we're back to square one: what makes Shepard special?

His mere existence rendered the Reapers utterly incompetent.

Well, he is the messiah afterall—like the Second Coming. Or at least that's what the narrative would have you believe.

[MegaSovereign]

Zazzerka wrote...

I think 'special' needs to be properly defined before that question can be asked.

Well, what I meant from my original comment (which started this discussion) was that I couldn't really pinpoint what could give Shepard and co. an advantage over the other cycles that had failed.

It couldn't have been just luck because the Reapers seem to have taken an interest in Shepard...that and there was literally a line from I forgot where : "Your victories are more than a product of chance."

[ImaginaryMatter]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Zazzerka wrote...

I can't be the only person who cringes internally when the 'heroisms' and 'characterisations' start.

Do what I do and take a shot whenever they appear. 

Oh goodness, your liver.

[dreamgazer]

David7204 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

There might well have been. They obviously didn't succeed, though.

Then we're back to square one: what makes Shepard special?

From others with courage and other assets? A titanic number of factors that can be summerized as 'luck.'

That doesn't sound very meaningful at all.

[DeinonSlayer]

ImaginaryMatter wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Zazzerka wrote...

I can't be the only person who cringes internally when the 'heroisms' and 'characterisations' start.

Do what I do and take a shot whenever they appear. 

Oh goodness, your liver.

That's OK, I've got two.
:wizard: 

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 07 janvier 2014 - 07:31 .

[David7204]

Why? Luck is a factor in everything and anything. We can't deny it exists. Being the best person on the planet wouldn't stop you from getting struck by lightning or hit by a drunk driver or something. Being the worst person on the planet wouldn't stop you from winning the lottery.

Courage is not a magical shield that bends the laws of physics around a person. It doesn't stop you from getting shot or stabbed. It doesn't grant you good genes to make you strong or fast or smart. It doesn't prevent you from tripping and cracking your head open or choking to death on a chicken bone. It wouldn't, as was pointed out, prevent a person from getting vaporized by a superweapon.

Modifié par David7204, 07 janvier 2014 - 07:34 .

[Zazzerka]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Well, what I meant from my original comment (which started this discussion) was that I couldn't really pinpoint what could give Shepard and co. an advantage over the other cycles that had failed.

It couldn't have been just luck because the Reapers seem to have taken an interest in Shepard...that and there was literally a line from I forgot where : "Your victories are more than a product of chance."

I remember hearing something about Shepard possessing immunity from indoctrination, which I think would be a pretty good reason for their interest in him/her - if organics are building up a resistance to it, and Shepard is the first to do so, then that's a problem that needs to be nipped in the bud - but as it is, all we're left with is luck.

[MegaSovereign]

David7204 wrote...

Why? Luck is a factor in everything and everything. We can't deny it exists. Being the best person on the planet wouldn't stop you from getting struck by lightning or hit by a drunk driver or something. Being the worst person on the planet wouldn't stop you from winning the lottery.

The narrative seems to imply that luck isn't the only factor. I never said that it wasn't a factor.

[ObserverStatus]

David7204 wrote...
Why? Luck is a factor in everything and anything. We can't deny it exists. Being the best person on the planet wouldn't stop you from getting struck by lightning or hit by a drunk driver or something. Being the worst person on the planet wouldn't stop you from winning the lottery.

Wrong, if a good person gets struck by lightning, it was the will of the force. Luck has nothing to do with it.