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NuclearTech76

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Cabal Biotic focus wall hax could be considered if you're going into character specifics.

Double strike is fine and can still be done, they never have commented on the hack circle glitch so it's fair game still, the Hydra glitch is illegal as is playing outside the map on any map. They have stated that but IDK if they have banned anyone for it.

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FlowCytometry wrote...

ka243 wrote...

Tapping a power button fast on xbox while that power is on cooldown makes the cooldown much faster. In most cases youre better off shooting something during that time but this little trixk has uses. Dont think ive ever seen this discussed...


erm, if that's really true, then you console peeps have been holding out on us :P

Never heard of this. Should be easy to test with a power like supply pylon and a heavy loadout. I doubt it works but hopefully I'm wrong.

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Cheating a banshees deathgrab can also happen if you take enough DMG to get KO before she plummets her fist into your gut. You'll still watch the entire animation between the two but when she tosses you, you just drop to the ground next to her K.O but not out. Use a Gel and gtfo of there.

However it's rare to have the required amount of enemies around you to put out enough damage in time. It works the best if you had already been taking dmg from other sources before getting grabbed.

Modifié par Data7, 17 avril 2013 - 03:19 .


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Trick to ignore Guardian Shield & Cover with homing Powers.


Modifié par Geist.H, 17 avril 2013 - 03:21 .


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Oh so that's what Right Hand Advantage is

I was never sure but I get it now, I knew it as "Half Facing" from Gears of War

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I may be wrong, but on console, certain characters light melee are quicker than walking, i.e. krogan headbut, slayer slash...it just appears that way to me...hard to test as you cant have pizza races

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Shampoohorn wrote...


Nice info.

I'd suggest a few things.
-Remove the "tech armor sync kill denial" comment. Nobody's ever shown they could do this.


Detonations set off with techburst can stagger enemies.
Stagger (in general) seems to work better on the Praetorian over the banshee though.

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stysiaq wrote...

Nik6454 wrote...

You forgot the seeker swarm cooldown cancel
Just use dark channel right after he raise his arm to summon the seekers.....this cancels the long cooldown to the DC cooldown
Also asari back dashing the pizza objective


Hey! I didn't know that one!

All I was doing was skipping one cooldown by:

- releasing the Dark Sphere
- summoning Seekers
- detonating Sphere

This way I switched the Seeker cooldown to the Dark Sphere cooldown, effectively skipping the first one.

Come to think of it , need to try out seeker>DS = no cooldown if not detonated

Update seeker >> DS does not work

Modifié par Nik6454, 17 avril 2013 - 03:52 .


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LanceCucumber wrote...

I may be wrong, but on console, certain characters light melee are quicker than walking, i.e. krogan headbut, slayer slash...it just appears that way to me...hard to test as you cant have pizza races

The sideways headbutt by the Krogan is definitely faster than walking. Melee often grants you DR also which even if the times are the same is nice to keep you upright.

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Come to think of it , need to try out seeker>DS = no cooldown if not detonated


I'm not sure about it cause I always detonate, but IIRC, after 8 seconds, the sphere detonates/disappear automatically and cooldown triggers on its own.

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Geist.H wrote...

Come to think of it , need to try out seeker>DS = no cooldown if not detonated


I'm not sure about it cause I always detonate, but IIRC, after 8 seconds, the sphere detonates/disappear automatically and cooldown triggers on its own.

Sphere has no cooldown if you dont detonate it
Also seeker>>DS does not work:(

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ka243 wrote...

Tapping a power button fast on xbox while that power is on cooldown makes the cooldown much faster. In most cases youre better off shooting something during that time but this little trixk has uses. Dont think ive ever seen this discussed...


I have never heard of this.

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I should probably correct "much faster" to just "somewhat faster" as long as you keep tapping the button. It will go back to normal speed if you stop tapping. The best use ive made of it is with powers like supply pylon when i want a new one fast for more grenades quickly between waves since redeploying the pylon instantly spawns more grenades. Dont know if the faster recharge trick works on pc or not. It works in single player too i believe.

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I'm glad to hear Hydra glitch was condemned because I reeeaaaally didn't want to include that POS; I dont care if that makes me a hypocrite.

Alright, so... I've got to include:
Hack Circle Glitch (perhaps with a warning that posting solo vids that include it is a surefire way to catch flak)
Seeker Swarm > DC cooldown override
Power > TC cooldown override (omg so ingrained that I totally forgot about it!)
Warp + Incendiary (how did I forget that?!)
Dual Strike (Havoc Strike + Heavy Melee)
Warlord hammer priming cancel
Various pizza delivery methods (keep em coming please!)

I'll want to try some of these things myself so as not to talk completely out my arse. So it could take some time.


Geist.H wrote...

Trick to ignore Guardian Shield & Cover with homing Powers.


Y'know, I've seen that before and I never could get it to work. At least, not with Warp. Just kept sending the power off into the sky.

Maybe I was too slow or didn't get the arc right... I dunno.


NuclearTech76 wrote...

Cabal Biotic focus wall hax could be considered if you're going into character specifics.


Wait, what?


ka243 wrote...

Tapping a power button fast on xbox while
that power is on cooldown makes the cooldown much faster. In most cases
youre better off shooting something during that time but this little
trixk has uses. Dont think ive ever seen this discussed...


O.o

I'm... going to need some video proof on that one, mate. I don't want to sound like I'm doubting you but... I totally am.

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OniGanon wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Cabal Biotic focus wall hax could be considered if you're going into character specifics.


Wait, what?






Also works with Repair Matrix on AIU. Requires Javelin.

Modifié par Ziegrif, 17 avril 2013 - 04:22 .


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Just this week I had a 4 and 5 shot Black Widow on a laggy host.

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Oh, how could we have forgotten that High Velocity barrels don't apply weight penalties on non-DLC guns, unless you also have Ultra-Light materials equipped (not sure if the same gun, or any equipped gun)?

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Ziegrif wrote...

OniGanon wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Cabal Biotic focus wall hax could be considered if you're going into character specifics.


Wait, what?






Also works with Repair Matrix on AIU. Requires Javelin.

I think i noticed that with the raider,pirahna as well, need to confirm.

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OniGanon wrote...

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Methods for quickly delivering the package in Object Retrieval missions, nicknamed 'Pizza Delivery' on BSN.


Other Methods?
Other than the headbutting example in the above video and walking backwards or sideways, I don't have a lot of info for this one. Help would be appreciated.


Another great pizza delivery method on console is backward dodging with an asari... Way more stylish than krogan headbutt

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Hm, the Jav + Focus thing is real interesting... anyone checked if the same applies on an AR with the Thermal Scope?

Heldarion wrote...

Oh, how could we have forgotten that High Velocity barrels don't apply weight penalties on non-DLC guns, unless you also have Ultra-Light materials equipped (not sure if the same gun, or any equipped gun)?


Sometimes it seems the weight mods actually work all of a sudden for no reason I can discern. Wasn't sure to include it because of that... Maybe I'll include it and have a warning that one should be prepared to be randomly screwed by it if they depend on it.

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OniGanon wrote...

Hm, the Jav + Focus thing is real interesting... anyone checked if the same applies on an AR with the Thermal Scope?


I did check if the thing worked with the New scopes, Marksman, AR rush, Rage, Bloodlust etc. My tests showed that they did not work with those combos. Got no video evidence though just my word.

But the only common variables I could find was Repair Matrix, Biotic Focus and Javelin. I was also busy with school back then so I may have half arsed it. If someones got more relevant data be my guest would love some more info.

Modifié par Ziegrif, 17 avril 2013 - 04:51 .


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 Not a trick exactly, but you could add how to vault over cover. 

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Y'know, I've seen that before and I never could get it to work. At least, not with Warp. Just kept sending the power off into the sky.

Maybe I was too slow or didn't get the arc right... I dunno.


I believe that Warp and a few other Biotic abilities are "to fast" for this trick to work indeed, it does work on Incinerate, Cryo Blast, Homing Grenade however.

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Okay, I can't seem to replicate the Seeker Swarm > DC thing. I try to hit DC just as he raises his hand, sometime after he raises it, and just plain mashing it like crazy, to no avail. Is there some detail I might be missing? Is there a vid out there showing the timing?

For the Focus + Jav thing, it seems to be a property of the Javelin itself. Still worked on the Javelin even if you replace the scope with the Thermal Scope (also retains the whole purple/red thing). Couldn't replicate with other weapons using Thermal Scope (AR or SR version).

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There is a way to speed up Paladin shield bashing by deploying the shield and canceling that with a double light melee. I don't bother using it.

Also the deployed shield stops DoT (Banshee Warp, Reactor Discharge!)
The shield bash can destroy an incoming Banshee Warp. It is said to also intercept rockitz but I can't confirm that.

Rockitz can be shot down with ordinary weapons fire, though.

SS: It's safe to shadow strike teleporting Banshees - the SS will connect even when the banshee has teleported away from the place the animation takes place.

Cabal Melee locks any mook in place and staggers them with every strike. If you can do it uninterrupted by third parties to a Phantom you'll win the melee.

A Phantom meleeing a Paladin with a deployed shield will become staggered (and eventually fire / freeze effect if specced with fitness).

Dragoons coming under fire usually do their roll dodge which can buy you precious time.

Projectile powers (e.g. incinerate) don't miss as often if fired directly into their face - a viable tactic for the Paladin, esp. after a shield bash.