dreamgazer wrote...
Wayning_Star wrote...
Synthesis is the bioware canon ending, why remove it to cater to their frustration with fans?
[citation needed]
I'm not saying it's good design, but it is how Bioware does things. They want people to debate the different choices, they want them to be controversial so that they're talked about, and they already admitted that they sometimes change things in order to bring about a more balanced outcome, i.e. in DA2 where they added more mages becoming abominations because their focus tests resulted in an almost universal mage support.Chashan wrote...
I'll just have to refute the concept of structuring a narrative based on as feeble a construction as 'balanced choices', as it sounds a tad too much as though one wishes to adhere to a more spread-out looking graph of a poll, survey or whatever kind of statistic. The different finales appeal to different people with differing views even as they are.Ieldra2 wrote...
As I see it, the balance of the ending scenario was originally supposed to be like this: Synthesis gives the best big-picture result while Shepard is dead, Destroy lets Shepard survive while having a lesser big-picture result, and Control is somewhere in-between. Unfortunately, the story that came before supports Destroy more than the other endings, so instead of the intended balance, things came across to many players as "dead Reapers = best outcome, regardless of everything else". Which means that Synthesis and Control have an added downside in Shepard's death/death-as-a-human without anything to balance it. Adding a re-union scene would put weight on an already-existing imbalance, which could've only been rebalanced by rewriting parts of the main plot in order to give Synthesis and Control better narrative support, and that can't be done in DLC.
It did not take BW much to go there, as things stand - admirably demonstrated by fans - and is a definite failing on their end. Along with other issues with this entire 'balance'-idea, which I find silly, to say the least.
As it is, yes, but the fact that Destroy is chosen by a relative majority of 40% is indication enough that it doesn't need more weight added to it. Having said that, I think the moral downsides of the endings are a much bigger factor than a re-union scene.Even as is, Green and Blue still provide reasonable enough strong points in their favour if you have to dissect based on raw pro and con.
Ieldra2 wrote...
I'm not saying it's good design, but it is how Bioware does things. They want people to debate the different choices, they want them to be controversial so that they're talked about, and they already admitted that they sometimes change things in order to bring about a more balanced outcome, i.e. in DA2 where they added more mages becoming abominations because their focus tests resulted in an almost universal mage support.Chashan wrote...
I'll just have to refute the concept of structuring a narrative based on as feeble a construction as 'balanced choices', as it sounds a tad too much as though one wishes to adhere to a more spread-out looking graph of a poll, survey or whatever kind of statistic. The different finales appeal to different people with differing views even as they are.Ieldra2 wrote...
As I see it, the balance of the ending scenario was originally supposed to be like this: Synthesis gives the best big-picture result while Shepard is dead, Destroy lets Shepard survive while having a lesser big-picture result, and Control is somewhere in-between. Unfortunately, the story that came before supports Destroy more than the other endings, so instead of the intended balance, things came across to many players as "dead Reapers = best outcome, regardless of everything else". Which means that Synthesis and Control have an added downside in Shepard's death/death-as-a-human without anything to balance it. Adding a re-union scene would put weight on an already-existing imbalance, which could've only been rebalanced by rewriting parts of the main plot in order to give Synthesis and Control better narrative support, and that can't be done in DLC.
It did not take BW much to go there, as things stand - admirably demonstrated by fans - and is a definite failing on their end. Along with other issues with this entire 'balance'-idea, which I find silly, to say the least.As it is, yes, but the fact that Destroy is chosen by a relative majority of 40% is indication enough that it doesn't need more weight added to it. Having said that, I think the moral downsides of the endings are a much bigger factor than a re-union scene.Even as is, Green and Blue still provide reasonable enough strong points in their favour if you have to dissect based on raw pro and con.
Wayning_Star wrote...
folks here on the BSN dislike the fact of synthesis being canon.
Yestare7 wrote...
Wayning_Star wrote...
folks here on the BSN dislike the fact of synthesis being canon.
I call bs on the above statement.
You conveniently did not adress Argolas's link.
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Ieldra2 wrote...
I'm not saying it's good design, but it is how Bioware does things. They want people to debate the different choices, they want them to be controversial so that they're talked about, and they already admitted that they sometimes change things in order to bring about a more balanced outcome, i.e. in DA2 where they added more mages becoming abominations because their focus tests resulted in an almost universal mage support.
As it is, yes, but the fact that Destroy is chosen by a relative majority of 40% is indication enough that it doesn't need more weight added to it. Having said that, I think the moral downsides of the endings are a much bigger factor than a re-union scene.
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Modifié par Finn the Jakey, 20 avril 2013 - 03:42 .
Finn the Jakey wrote...
They removed taking the disk out and trying to forget about the ending? Damn, that's a shame.
Destroy then I guess.
Wayning_Star wrote...
Yestare7 wrote...
Wayning_Star wrote...
folks here on the BSN dislike the fact of synthesis being canon.
I call bs on the above statement.
You conveniently did not adress Argolas's link.
No need to argue, or commit to your troll riddling's. lol
All the facts of the MEU point at synthesis. End of Line
Wayning_Star wrote...
I figured that before EC, as soon as the catalyst made it's cameo appearance.
Yestare7 wrote...
Wayning_Star wrote...
Yestare7 wrote...
Wayning_Star wrote...
folks here on the BSN dislike the fact of synthesis being canon.
I call bs on the above statement.
You conveniently did not adress Argolas's link.
No need to argue, or commit to your troll riddling's. lol (my case rests..)
All the facts of the MEU point at synthesis. End of Line
Allright, no need to argue. Now we know you are a troll.
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