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[Yestare7]

ghost9191 wrote...


actually i see more synthesis fans trying to force their ending on others. fitting given the choice i suppose

Best quote of this thread

[adayaday]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

 ^ The OP is expressly asking which, out of RGB, do you pick.


So, again, it's like...

> Would you burn to death, or freeze to death?
> hurr.. neither!!

Obviously nobody ever actually chooses either one IRL even if they can, but that's not the point of the question.

You actully expect a thoughtfull awnser to this?considering we spend all our lives trying to avoid death.

Modifié par adayaday, 18 avril 2013 - 06:01 .

[3DandBeyond]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

^ It's semantically the same as saying "I would pick neither" cop-out.

Hmm, considering many people that never got an ending that fit with the story they played or the story laid out before them and created by BW in the dialogue they allowed fans to choose for Shepard, the cop out existed when the company decided not to write endings for all types of Shepard.  And considering that whenever people stated this they were most often told to use their imagination, or more correctly were told that they were basically stupid because they didn't seem to have imaginations, then this cop out as you put it is just as valid because it can then allow one to try and wipe away the vision of Shepard going full on idiot.  As well it can wipe out that which so offends many people and allow imagination to work its incomplete magic.

What is incredibly funny and somewhat ironic about all of this is that all along people have insisted that we as fans use our imaginations to fill in the blanks created when BW could not use their imaginations to do what we paid for in buying this game.  They created the dialog that I put in the mouth of the Shepard I played.  They created the story and story world in which the Shepard I played existed.  They abandoned all of that, so for me, "I would pick neither" is far less of a cop out than the one that existed when the company that got paid to create the things they claimed would exist in the end never did create those things.  If I abandon their ending it's only because they abandoned the ending I paid them to create and they promised that they had created.

[3DandBeyond]

adayaday wrote...

HYR 2.0 wrote...

 ^ The OP is expressly asking which, out of RGB, do you pick.


So, again, it's like...

> Would you burn to death, or freeze to death?
> hurr.. neither!!

Obviously nobody ever actually chooses either one IRL even if they can, but that's not the point of the question.

You actully expect a thoughtfull awnser to this?considering we spend all our lives trying to avoid death.

It seems even worse to me since all through the game it's clear that the reapers and by extension (when he's revealed) the kid, sees Shepard as a threat-and Shepard is told this.  And then at the end, the kid says here's two options that Shepard needs to commit suicide to achieve.  Now that sounds just perfect.

[Khelish]

No.

[New Display Name]

Control & Synthesis are both my favorites, so I would choose the one that remains.

[ruggly]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

 ^ The OP is expressly asking which, out of RGB, do you pick.


So, again, it's like...

> Would you burn to death, or freeze to death?
> hurr.. neither!!

Obviously nobody ever actually chooses either one IRL even if they can, but that's not the point of the question.

I'm from Minnesota, so I'm impervious to the cold

[Astartes Marine]

HYR 2.0 wrote...
 I won't call into question one's values, but it *is* pretty moronic to reply by saying "I'd uninstall gaem."
When playing "Would you rather?"-games you don't have/get the option of saying "I would pick neither."
It's stupid. It defeats the purpose of hypothetical entirely.

In my case at least that's precisely the point.  There is no hypothetical for me, there is no situation, unless the game was modded, where I would pick anything but destroy.  So if you remove that, then I have no choice but to shut off the game as it wouldn't ever end otherwise.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

adayaday wrote...

HYR 2.0 wrote...

 ^ The OP is expressly asking which, out of RGB, do you pick.


So, again, it's like...

> Would you burn to death, or freeze to death?
> hurr.. neither!!

Obviously nobody ever actually chooses either one IRL even if they can, but that's not the point of the question.

You actully expect a thoughtfull awnser to this?considering we spend all our lives trying to avoid death.

Better question: do you understand what "hypothetical" means?

The point of the exercise is to suppose a scenario that is extreme and unrealistic and asking what you would do in said scenario. Hence the idiocy of choosing "neither." No s***, Sherlock; I really had no clue you don't actually want to die by ice or fire (that was sarcasm... I shouldn't have to say that, but I shouldn't have to explain what I'm explaining now, either!!).

And YES, you can answer such a question thoughtfully. Allow me...

I'd choose death by cold, because while I much prefer hotter climate (even far upwards of 100F) I'm fairly sure death by heat would be a far more painful way to go.

Was that so hard?

Astartes Marine wrote...

In my case at least that's precisely the point.  There is no hypothetical for me, there is no situation, unless the game was modded, where I would pick anything but destroy.  So if you remove that, then I have no choice but to shut off the game as it wouldn't ever end otherwise.

Read the first post. The question is which of RGB do you pick.

Approach the decision like you're Shepard - the person in-the-moment - not the game-player who isn't actually there.

And no, you can't invent a new option like "shoot self in head" (at least, I'm fairly certain that's not what the OP wants).

[adayaday]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

adayaday wrote...

HYR 2.0 wrote...

 ^ The OP is expressly asking which, out of RGB, do you pick.


So, again, it's like...

> Would you burn to death, or freeze to death?
> hurr.. neither!!

Obviously nobody ever actually chooses either one IRL even if they can, but that's not the point of the question.

You actully expect a thoughtfull awnser to this?considering we spend all our lives trying to avoid death.

Better question: do you understand what "hypothetical" means?

The point of the exercise is to suppose a scenario that is extreme and unrealistic and asking what you would do in said scenario. Hence the idiocy of choosing "neither." No s***, Sherlock; I really had no clue you don't actually want to die by ice or fire (that was sarcasm... I shouldn't have to say that, but I shouldn't have to explain what I'm explaining now, either!!).

And YES, you can answer such a question thoughtfully. Allow me...

I'd choose death by cold, because while I much prefer hotter climate (even far upwards of 100F) I'm fairly sure death by heat would be a far more painful way to go.

Was that so hard?

Astartes Marine wrote...

In my case at least that's precisely the point.  There is no hypothetical for me, there is no situation, unless the game was modded, where I would pick anything but destroy.  So if you remove that, then I have no choice but to shut off the game as it wouldn't ever end otherwise.

Read the first post. The question is which of RGB do you pick.

Approach the decision like you're Shepard - the person in-the-moment - not the game-player who isn't actually there.

And no, you can't invent a new option like "shoot self in head" (at least, I'm fairly certain that's not what the OP wants).

Keep in mind that you are talking a hypothetical game,and when one no longer find a game enjoyable he quits-uninstall.

[Mr.House]

Solaxe wrote...

Funny how synthesis/control fans are fine with picking other endings...

...but destroy fanatics are mad without their ending

Yet my second prefered choice, which one of my Shepards does pick and no MEHEM is used(before MEHEM was even out, she was my only Shepard who did not pick destory)

Good job dumping everyone into one basket.

[Astartes Marine]

HYR 2.0 wrote...
Read the first post. The question is which of RGB do you pick.

Approach the decision like you're Shepard - the person in-the-moment - not the game-player who isn't actually there.

And no, you can't invent a new option like "shoot self in head" (at least, I'm fairly certain that's not what the OP wants).

Refuse then because aside from Destroy there are no endings I find acceptable.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Astartes Marine wrote...

HYR 2.0 wrote...
Read the first post. The question is which of RGB do you pick.

Approach the decision like you're Shepard - the person in-the-moment - not the game-player who isn't actually there.

And no, you can't invent a new option like "shoot self in head" (at least, I'm fairly certain that's not what the OP wants).

Refuse then because aside from Destroy there are no endings I find acceptable.

Okay. Good. Now we're getting somewhere. ()

[justafan]

Preferred: Destroy
2nd Choice: Control
Why?: Well, I hate synthesis, and even though I fully expect the Shepalyst to snap at some point in the future, in the meantime him helping the galaxy rebuild will hopefully allow them time to make contingencies for when he does try to restart the cycle.

[SwordofMercy1]

Kel Riever wrote...

Preferred Ending: Pull the plug on my console after, 'The best seats in the house.' Best ending already removed.

Second Choice: Destroy

Explanation for Second Choice: Since the StarBrat makes less sense than a bowl of cereal, and was written by what looks like a drunk writer who refutes his own story, Destroy is the only ending where the Geth, EDI and Shepard all live. Because that's how code works and that's how breathing works.

Ditto<_<.

[Iucounou]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

And no, you can't invent a new option like "shoot self in head" (at least, I'm fairly certain that's not what the OP wants).

I think we can, actually, invent a new option, but you are probably right in that the OP was thinking of the four main choices.

On the other hand, if BW had done their job right in the first place and given everybody what they wanted, we wouldn't be here, arguing the toss over which heinous ending was less bad than the next, or having to invent crap in our heads to make some sense of it all.

[Reikilea]

Hah. You will never make me pick synthesis. Never.

I suppose I quit game and come up with my own.

Destroy always.

But if I will be very very forced I can maybe pick Control or refusal.

[PsyrenY]

Just want to point out to the "shut off game" people that not choosing anything is basically Refuse.

[Interloper]

Preferred:Destroy
Second choice: Control
I know it's strange that someone who feels the need to destroy the reapers would choose control but in actuality, I have always thought that these two ending are good in two major ways:
i)they neutralise the reapers as a threat
ii)they preserve the free will of all organics

[FeralEwok]

If I had to pick something other than Destroy I'd chose Control. It has the least amount of damage. The main reason I don't pick it is because from a non (and I hate using the word) metagame perspective is that it's just such a huge leap of faith on not only if it will a.) work b.) not be some trap c.) allow Reaper Shepard to have an adaptable personality that won't get stuck in some logic loophole and start the Reaping all over again and finally (and most frightening to me) d.) End up with a totalitarian state where the Reapers are the ultimate enforcers. Sure the EC slides tell you "That does not happen." well...unless you choose Renegade control and then it implies it could happen, but again without any way of knowing it and having such strong reasons to actually distrust the info being presented to me, it'd be a very difficult choice to make.

With the way Synthesis was presented in ME3 there is just no way anyone could convince me it's the right way to go.

Refuse, despite having one of the best Shep speeches in the trilogy, doesn't resolve anything and to me feels more like an easter egg and possibly a joke from BW for not liking the original endings. Ultimately it's the Suicide Mission failure ending but on a galactic scale.

Also, while I can appreciate the hard work someone puts into something, I can't use MEHEM. Can I headcanon what happens to Shepard if they survive destroy? Sure. The details of his or her life after the events of ME3 will have no bearing on future Mass Effect games (Unless your headcanon involves Shepard becoming Emperor of Space etc). Details such as whether or not the Reapers were destroyed, Geth going way of the dodo bird, and the general state of the galaxy might and most likely will play a part (be it small or large) in the future.

I can't really go into any of those future games and get behind them if I am at the same time arguing in my head that these things didn't happen because I installed MEHEM.

[Khelish]

Reikilea wrote...

Hah. You will never make me pick synthesis. Never.

I suppose I quit game and come up with my own.

Destroy always.

But if I will be very very forced I can maybe pick Control or refusal.

Saw the avatar, thought you were Wulf, read post, I was confused. 

[Reikilea]

Khelish wrote...

Reikilea wrote...

Hah. You will never make me pick synthesis. Never.

I suppose I quit game and come up with my own.

Destroy always.

But if I will be very very forced I can maybe pick Control or refusal.

Saw the avatar, thought you were Wulf, read post, I was confused. 

Sometimes same happens to me. I start to think I am someone else when I read Wulf posts.

[Kelwing]

First choice is always Destroy.
Second if it was gone. Refuse.

[Asharad Hett]

Solaxe wrote...

Destroyers are so close-minded...

I'll wear that badge with honor.  "Out of the box" thinking is what brought us the crappy ending to start with.

[TheRealJayDee]

Okay, so EC ending options, no mods, no quitting the game. I'll give you three answers:

1) Player choice
Preferred - Destroy
2nd choice - Refuse
Why? Watching Shepard give a speech that makes him resemble the character I played for 3 games is almost as satisfying as picking Destroy.

2) Shepard's choice (most of my Shepards)
Preferred: Refuse
2nd choice: Destroy
Why? If not able to tell the Reaper king he doesn't want any part in his new "final solutions" Shepard would likely pick the one option that promises to rid the galaxy of the Reaper threat, even if it comes at a great and bitter cost.

3) my crazy, power hungry Shepard's choice
Preferred: Control
2nd choice: Destroy
Why? If ruling the galaxy with a power even he never dreamed of wasn't an option he'd sure like to see the Reapers go down in flames. What sacrifices? Those... things aren't real beings and will never be.

Modifié par TheRealJayDee, 19 avril 2013 - 01:48 .