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[MyChemicalBromance]

Data so far. Draw what conclusions you will.

[Zebron is reaL]

Preferred: Synthesis
Second choice: Control
Reasoning: The only other choice where there is no preventable loss of life, other than my own

[The Night Mammoth]

Preferred: None of them.
Second Choice: Destroy.
Reasoning behind second choice: If I absolutely have to choose an ending, I'd rather one where the Reapers die. Hackett seems to believe everything that was lost could be rebuilt, so how's that for exploitation of dialogue? Take that BioWare, the geth are alright.

[Asharad Hett]

Preferred - destroy
2nd choice - refuse

[SlottsMachine]

If I couldn't reunite with my boy Daedalus, I'd probably choose destroy.

[Hey]

General Slotts wrote...

If I couldn't reunite with my boy Daedalus, I'd probably choose destroy.

lol.  +2

[bocajbee]

Yestare7 wrote...

Prefer: MEHEM
second: destroy high EMS - Citadel party.

Shep lives, and has lots of blue babies with Liara
(oh right, Reapers are dead. that too)

Sweet Jesus, MEHEM was horrible. Too overly Disney like & cheesy. I can't see why anyone would like it. It would be like seeing Chigir getting killed at the end of No Country For Old Men or Elizebeth and Booker having happy father daughter time at the end of Bioshok Infinite. These endigs are suppose to leave loose ends for you to use your imagination, not have everything put on a plate for you because you're incapable of thinking about the possible oucomes yourself. 

It just doesn't fit...

Modifié par bocajbee, 19 avril 2013 - 07:02 .

[SpamBot2000]

bocajbee wrote...

Sweet Jesus, MEHEM was horrible. Too overly Disney like & cheesy. I can't see why anyone would like it. ... These endigs are suppose to leave loose ends for you to use your imagination, not have everything put on a plate for you because you're incapable of thinking about the possible oucomes yourself. 

It just doesn't fit...

And that's why you shouldn't be the lead writer, Mr. Walters.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 19 avril 2013 - 07:10 .

[Hey]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

bocajbee wrote...

Sweet Jesus, MEHEM was horrible. Too overly Disney like & cheesy. I can't see why anyone would like it. ... These endigs are suppose to leave loose ends for you to use your imagination, not have everything put on a plate for you because you're incapable of thinking about the possible oucomes yourself. 

It just doesn't fit...

And that's why you shouldn't be the lead writer, Mr. Walters.

because he doesn't like that mod ending? yo, that **** is ****ing bad.  

[PsyrenY]

MEHEM was hilariously bad but I won't rail against the right for it to exist. I treat most fanfiction the same way.

[Yestare7]

Optimystic_X wrote...

MEHEM was hilariously bad but I won't rail against the right for it to exist.

Synthesis was hilariously bad but I won't rail against the right for it to exist.

[Yestare7]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

bocajbee wrote...

Sweet Jesus, MEHEM was horrible. Too overly Disney like & cheesy. I can't see why anyone would like it. ... These endigs are suppose to leave loose ends for you to use your imagination, not have everything put on a plate for you because you're incapable of thinking about the possible oucomes yourself. 

It just doesn't fit...

And that's why you shouldn't be the lead writer, Mr. Walters.

Spambot, you make me proud!

[Kataphrut94]

Preferred: Control.
Second choice: Synthesis.

What can I say, it's better to not make people dead.

[PsyrenY]

Yestare7 wrote...

Synthesis was hilariously bad but I won't rail against the right for it to exist.

It's also not fanfiction. Problem? 

[CaIIisto]

No one needs to rail against Synthesis, it's already unpopular enough as it is.

And seriously if we're getting into Disney then we need look no further than Synthesis - everyone lives happily ever in peace and harmony thanks to space magic. Yippee.

[ThinkSharp]

You could probably say that all of the high EMS endings have a Disney quality to them with the EC: the galaxy is happily rebuilding with this new situation despite any unpleasant conclusions you could draw from its implementation or any speculation about what is going to happen to the galaxy in the future as a result.

Even refusal... Sure, the entire galaxy as we know it is overcome by the Reapers and gets wiped out, but instead of slaughter and destruction scenes we get the happy mother and child talking about all the peace and happiness that has come about.

Destroy is probably the least Disney-esque.

Take that for what it's worth.

Modifié par ThinkSharp, 19 avril 2013 - 08:49 .

[PsyrenY]

Bester76 wrote...

And seriously if we're getting into Disney then we need look no further than Synthesis - everyone lives happily ever in peace and harmony thanks to space magic. Yippee.

Then why do you people hate it? Do you want a happy ending or not? Is Bioware Disney or grimdark?

Bipolar much?

[ThinkSharp]

Optimystic_X wrote...

Bester76 wrote...

And
seriously if we're getting into Disney then we need look no further than
Synthesis - everyone lives happily ever in peace and harmony thanks to
space magic. Yippee.

Then why do you people hate it? Do you want a happy ending or not? Is Bioware Disney or grimdark?

Bipolar much?

The
biggest complaints aren't about whether it was happy or not, grim or
not. It's about whether it's believable and convincing, and thus
acceptable.

The bipolar interpretation and reaction only affirms how much the ending fails at convincing people to accept it the way it was intended to be accepted.

Modifié par ThinkSharp, 19 avril 2013 - 08:55 .

[PsyrenY]

ThinkSharp wrote...

The biggest complaints aren't about whether it was happy or not, grim or  not. It's about whether it's believable and convincing, and thus acceptable.

That its intended to be happy is factual and objective. The images, EDI's tone and narrative, even her expressions convey this openly.

Whether it is "believable and convincing" is going to vary from person to person; that is subjective. But the simple fact is that nothing else is going to please people that simply wanted to push a button and kill the Reapers. I'm glad this game took a risk and did something more complex. Had EC been in the game from the get-go, I believe the fan reaction would have been much milder than it was.

[ThinkSharp]

Optimystic_X wrote...

ThinkSharp wrote...

The biggest complaints aren't about whether it was happy or not, grim or  not. It's about whether it's believable and convincing, and thus acceptable.

That its intended to be happy is factual and objective. The images, EDI's tone and narrative, even her expressions convey this openly.

Whether it is "believable and convincing" is going to vary from person to person; that is subjective. But the simple fact is that nothing else is going to please people that simply wanted to push a button and kill the Reapers. I'm glad this game took a risk and did something more complex. Had EC been in the game from the get-go, I believe the fan reaction would have been much milder than it was.

Agreed.

However, a majority of fans are unhappy with the endings. I think that's a big indication that something went wrong. Unless, of course, Bioware intended their endings to make everyone angry, or for players to interpret it as a choice between facism, mind-rape, and genocide. I give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that's not the interpretation they wanted many players to take away. Yet it has happened. So something failed somewhere. No matter how you feel about the endings, you can't ignore that fact.

And I'm saying this as someone who prefers Synthesis.

[Indy_S]

Optimystic_X wrote...

But the simple fact is that nothing else is going to please people that simply wanted to push a button and kill the Reapers. I'm glad this game took a risk and did something more complex.

Who are these people that only want to push a button? And you're glad that the game took the risky decision of shifting the central conflict of the story to one that was essentially resolved in a subplot? There are other perspectives to yours.

[CaIIisto]

Optimystic_X wrote...

Bester76 wrote...

And seriously if we're getting into Disney then we need look no further than Synthesis - everyone lives happily ever in peace and harmony thanks to space magic. Yippee.

Then why do you people hate it? Do you want a happy ending or not? Is Bioware Disney or grimdark?

Bipolar much?

I would imagine that people hate it because they thought they were playing Mass Effect, not an adaptation of The Wizard of Oz. If only we'd known at the beginning of the game that all's we needed to do was help the Tinman, sorry Harbinger and his pals, get themselves a heart, by going to see the Wizard, sorry the Catalyst, in the Emerald City, sorry the Citadel. 

Press X/Triangle/Scroll button to click your heels three times and return to Kansas....sorry, Vancouver. 

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Preferred ending: My own that I wrote/am writing myself.

Secondary ending: MEHEM (with a few alterations.)

So really, I win either way

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 19 avril 2013 - 09:16 .

[PsyrenY]

ThinkSharp wrote...


However, a majority of fans are unhappy with the endings. I think that's a big indication that something went wrong.
...
No matter how you feel about the endings, you can't ignore that fact.

...According to the polls here, when this website is the hub of dissatisfaction with the series. But elsewhere I see different statistics. If your claim was correct, Youtube videos of Synthesis and Control would be widely disliked. At a minimum I would expect a 50/50 ration. Instead, the like-dislike ratio is at considerable odds with the belief that "a majority of fans are unhappy."

And that is the problem I have with BSN in general; it's an echo chamber of anger that amplifies the roars of a vocal minority into a deafening clamor. The true majority of fans - the ones that played the game, enjoyed it, bought the DLC and didn't even bother registering a forum username -  we won't ever hear from them. But the ones that were pissed off and took to the most logical place to complain - namely, here - go on to poll each other and conclude that everyone who plays the game must be as mad as they are. Look at the results of this BSN poll! Numbers don't lie!
 
In short, if you base your conclusions on a nonrepresentative sample, you will only arrive at incorrect conclusions.

Did I mention that Youtube videos get far larger sample sizes than any poll here could dream of?

Indy_S wrote...

Who are these people that only want to push a button?

Every single person that downloaded MEHEM for starters.

Modifié par Optimystic_X, 19 avril 2013 - 09:19 .

[Indy_S]

Optimystic_X wrote...

Indy_S wrote...

Who are these people that only want to push a button?

Every single person that downloaded MEHEM for starters.

You appear to have a very limited view on the motivations behind MEHEM.