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parico wrote...

_only1biggs_ wrote...


you yourself are being disrespectful to our group. i/we show respect to those who deserve it. you don't have my/our respect because you keep posting this nonsense instead of forming a rational argument. i have been open and friendly in this thread and have been rational and cogent. anyone who is rude to another, is so, probably because they know that person and that they will take it the right way. it may be seen by certain people as condescending, but it's hard not to condescend to idiocy.

please, just stop.





As you said respect is earned you and a few of your members
think this little epen group means they are entitled to be complete jerks to
people that disagree with them.  I did present several valid point's but
everything that you or your buddies don’t want to hear is irrational
anyway.  Then I remembered that this is a game and I now realize how pathetic
it is that we are arguing about who’s better at a video game.  So whatever have your stupid club and be douchebags. 




Lolol, sorry, have you seen some of my replies across the forums? I can be a massive jerk, and I'm not a member.... I'm special!:D

Clearly I'm eligable for consideration to enter the group, as I clearly have the douchebag mastery challenge completed by now. 

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Nice read so far. Reminds me of the BearCatFan thread about how MP is shallow and was secretly deleted off the forums(well I think it did because I've tried looking for it).

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Hmm, not sure if I'm good enough...
Any specific criteria?

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NuclearTech76 wrote...

You can't recruit to the group unless you advertise. Bullying? That's just BS for the most part. If someone posts something idiotic sure their going to be called an idiot.

I know for a fact people like Bechter, Mega, Disciple, Caine, Invader, etc, etc, etc have helped a helluva lot of people on these forums with solos, challenges, builds, speedruns, etc, etc. I could name several more on Xbox and other platforms now that the groups are combined.

Is there some things that other members say that irratate me? Sure, but it's beyond stupid some of the misinformed criticism that the group receives. If biggs or any other member made a thread sponsored by the group offering to help the community you can bet your ass someone would have some ignorant comment to make in the first page.


Maybe bully was the wrong word, tough guy mob mentality maybe. Only with that, some would embrace it more openly as a good thing.

I actually think the group is a good idea, and like I said, I enjoy the videos. I have no issue with the group, it is the way some of the members act, putting people down for entertainment. One starts the attack, then the other join in to laugh at his jokes and make him feel good. I have seen thread after thread derailed by "spectre" members who laugh at each others jokes, and reassure each other they are hilarious.

With such high standards to get in and be visable on the forum, you should also require a bit of class.

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How far has this thread gone off the rails? I don't have time to read 20+ pages.

I need a recap biggs. Also should be able to try a few runs at that high score challenge thing this weekend.

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lastofthefive0s wrote...

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I have a feeling that a number of people posting here about the group being full of epeen elitest DBs/wanting no part of it secretly want to be a part of SPECTRE, but know they just wouldn't make the cut. Which is why they result to sarcastic comments and petty insults, but continue to post in a thread about a group that they supposedly don't care about. If you really don't care, then why continue to post? Just leave and be done with it.

biggs threw out all the trash, and most of the others showed themselves out before he could. There are a lot of misconceptions about the group, and those of you that continue to disparage it couldn't be more wrong. The ones who act like DBs on BSN are actually the exact opposite in party/game.


Then why act like that on the forums?  If you're looking for new players to join your private gaming community, why not just ask if someone wants to play some matches and if you think they are "best of the best", then invite them into your gaming group via PM?  If they don't meet your standards, just say "thanks for the games" and move on.  It just smacks of elitism to make a post looking for people to join, while also saying "oh, btw, you have to pass our tests before you can even be considered to be invited to our self proclaimed best of the best club."  That was the biggest problem I had from the start.  You want to find new blood to play with, fine.  But why not go about it without sounding like an epeen measuring contest?

The officers aren't going to search for individual players and ask them to try out. If someone wants in, they'll ask. The post is here to raise awareness for the group. If one of the members happen to come across a good player not part/aware of the group, they can nominate them for the group.

Also, how is it any different to say "thanks for the games" and move on as opposed to saying if you don't meet these requirements you can't join? Either way, you're holding that person to a standard. You can't just let anybody into the group if you want it to represent some of the best players (although I know quite a few players who are on par/better than some of the members, myself included, that aren't a part for whatever reason). There has to be some sort of standard in place whether you agree with it or not.

As for the DB part, apparently a lot of people missed this post by Stik:

Original Stikman wrote...
there will be a few different type of people that come here to comment outside of spectre x

A) to just be involved, know whats going on, have a few laughs
B) interested in joining
C) come in here to judge the "judging" part and insinuate that we are all douchebags

so you

A) have some laughs
B) play some games with them
C) give them what they want so they leave

Stik is easily one of the most laid back players I've ever played with. His responses are a direct result of the people that fall under C. I can't speak for any other member that comes off as abrasive, but that's their business.

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RiddickX wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

dysturbed0ne wrote...

Just as in sports however, not everyone handles the lime light well, and I see a lot ot TO's in your group, very talented, but immature. You can be the best at something without making others feel like lesser of person because you can play a video game better.

I would actually agree that it's pointless arguing with the idiots on here. Their rage is somewhat entertaining though. It's like watching monkeys fling poo, entertaining to watch but if you involve yourself too much you just end up covered in ****.


Remember the saying: "When arguing with a fool, spectators won't know the difference!" lol. It's very entertaining, but not involving.

Never argue with idiots, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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Slojack wrote...

RiddickX wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

dysturbed0ne wrote...

Just as in sports however, not everyone handles the lime light well, and I see a lot ot TO's in your group, very talented, but immature. You can be the best at something without making others feel like lesser of person because you can play a video game better.

I would actually agree that it's pointless arguing with the idiots on here. Their rage is somewhat entertaining though. It's like watching monkeys fling poo, entertaining to watch but if you involve yourself too much you just end up covered in ****.


Remember the saying: "When arguing with a fool, spectators won't know the difference!" lol. It's very entertaining, but not involving.

Never argue with idiots, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.


Hahahaha! Quoted!

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VoidNeXus 000 wrote...

I don't really think I should need to point out how incredibly stupid it is to make a bunch of broad generalizations about an entire group like that and then to follow it up with "but wait, it's only a few of them"

You're complaining about a minority, and truth be told it's pretty obvious the trolling in this thread is just to get a rise out of the typical BSN whiners that always show up in these threads dude.


Really. Should I also point out how hypocrtical it is to make that statement and then tell the forum that one bad player can spoil the image of all the spectres. I believe your leader said that.

Modifié par dysturbed0ne, 18 avril 2013 - 06:17 .


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VoidNeXus 000 wrote...

FlashAK wrote...

I have a feeling that a number of people posting here about the group being full of epeen elitest DBs/wanting no part of it secretly want to be a part of SPECTRE, but know they just wouldn't make the cut. Which is why they result to sarcastic comments and petty insults


I would have laughed this off before, but considering some of our current members are some of the same people who constantly whined about the group on the multiplayer forum it's questionable.

I know of at least 2 people who fall under this category, but I'm not sure constantly whining about the group would be the right word to describe them. One of them I know had bad experiences with members of the group, and it didn't help that this was during the days of every thread starting with "Spectre X Presents:" and a lot of it coming off as douchey. He decided to join after he played with some members and realized they weren't all that bad, and some were the exact opposite of how they portray themselves on BSN.

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FlashAK wrote...

VoidNeXus 000 wrote...

FlashAK wrote...

I have a feeling that a number of people posting here about the group being full of epeen elitest DBs/wanting no part of it secretly want to be a part of SPECTRE, but know they just wouldn't make the cut. Which is why they result to sarcastic comments and petty insults


I would have laughed this off before, but considering some of our current members are some of the same people who constantly whined about the group on the multiplayer forum it's questionable.

I know of at least 2 people who fall under this category, but I'm not sure constantly whining about the group would be the right word to describe them. One of them I know had bad experiences with members of the group, and it didn't help that this was during the days of every thread starting with "Spectre X Presents:" and a lot of it coming off as douchey. He decided to join after he played with some members and realized they weren't all that bad, and some were the exact opposite of how they portray themselves on BSN.


I remember this and from what Biggs has said, some of the "douchier" members have been removed or left on their own. But I suspect Ashen    Void-what have you exaggerates because he gets a rise out of yanking peoples legs.

Like I've said many pages back, those that I have played with certainly don't act like jerks, and thank god.

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dysturbed0ne wrote...

VoidNeXus 000 wrote...

I don't really think I should need to point out how incredibly stupid it is to make a bunch of broad generalizations about an entire group like that and then to follow it up with "but wait, it's only a few of them"

You're complaining about a minority, and truth be told it's pretty obvious the trolling in this thread is just to get a rise out of the typical BSN whiners that always show up in these threads dude.


Really. Should I also point out how hypocrtical it is to make that statement and then tell the forum that one bad player can spoil the image of all the spectres. I believe your leader said that.


excuse me? what did i say exactly?

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I just know that the best in that group, ie Topographer, was, and is, super nice, and one of the best friends to have in this game or any other. Talk about no attitude, helpful and an all around good team player! I don't know about many of the others since I've been gone from MP so damn long, but if even 25% are like Topographer, it'd be a fun group. If people don't like what one group member is like, just unfriend, block and mute the player or leave the Lobby when the player enters. It's really that simple.

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dysturbed0ne wrote...

VoidNeXus 000 wrote...

I don't really think I should need to point out how incredibly stupid it is to make a bunch of broad generalizations about an entire group like that and then to follow it up with "but wait, it's only a few of them"

You're complaining about a minority, and truth be told it's pretty obvious the trolling in this thread is just to get a rise out of the typical BSN whiners that always show up in these threads dude.


Really. Should I also point out how hypocrtical it is to make that statement and then tell the forum that one bad player can spoil the image of all the spectres. I believe your leader said that.


It would only be hypocritical of me if I made both statements.

Obviously that's not the case.

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Flies_by_Handles wrote...

I suspect Ashen    Void-what have you exaggerates because he gets a rise out of yanking peoples legs.


Not really.

I just find it highly amusing when people will complain about a group at any given opportunity on various occasions, and then join that same group when presented a choice. Regardless of the actual reason behind joining, it's damn hilarious any way you look at it.

Do I have an issue with it? No, I just think it's comical.

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I will leave your thread alone.

<insert obligatory smarta** comment here>

Just think of the peoples "game" (whether sports or video game) that go down as the best ever, it usually includes talent AND class. Players like Payton Manning, Marcus Allen, Walter Payton and so on.

Then there is the TO's and Ocho Cinco's, while very talented are a cancer to the team because their "image" is more important than the group.

Some of you in the first group really need to look at the ones in the second group and bounce them out, or teach them some class. Which means treating everyone with respect, not just a select few.

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spectr pls

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_only1biggs_ wrote...

dysturbed0ne wrote...

VoidNeXus 000 wrote...

I don't really think I should need to point out how incredibly stupid it is to make a bunch of broad generalizations about an entire group like that and then to follow it up with "but wait, it's only a few of them"

You're complaining about a minority, and truth be told it's pretty obvious the trolling in this thread is just to get a rise out of the typical BSN whiners that always show up in these threads dude.


Really. Should I also point out how hypocrtical it is to make that statement and then tell the forum that one bad player can spoil the image of all the spectres. I believe your leader said that.


excuse me? what did i say exactly?


Something along the line of, you need to be careful who you let in because if a "spectre" goes into a public game, he/she will be held to a certain standard, so they do not reflect badly on the rest of the group.

You should have the same standards on the forum.

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VoidNeXus 000 wrote...

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

I suspect Ashen    Void-what have you exaggerates because he gets a rise out of yanking peoples legs.


Not really.

I just find it highly amusing when people will complain about a group at any given opportunity on various occasions, and then join that same group when presented a choice. Regardless of the actual reason behind joining, it's damn hilarious any way you look at it.

Do I have an issue with it? No, I just think it's comical.


Ya, really.

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And if it's humor you need to point out, I think a few funny gifs or images posted in tandem are in order.

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TheKillerAngel wrote...

silk spectr pls

fixt:P


My body is ready

Image IPB

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dysturbed0ne wrote...

Something along the line of, you need to be careful who you let in because if a "spectre" goes into a public game, he/she will be held to a certain standard, so they do not reflect badly on the rest of the group.

You should have the same standards on the forum.


i have never said that! now you're just lying.

show some class

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dysturbed0ne wrote...

_only1biggs_ wrote...

dysturbed0ne wrote...

VoidNeXus 000 wrote...

I don't really think I should need to point out how incredibly stupid it is to make a bunch of broad generalizations about an entire group like that and then to follow it up with "but wait, it's only a few of them"

You're complaining about a minority, and truth be told it's pretty obvious the trolling in this thread is just to get a rise out of the typical BSN whiners that always show up in these threads dude.


Really. Should I also point out how hypocrtical it is to make that statement and then tell the forum that one bad player can spoil the image of all the spectres. I believe your leader said that.


excuse me? what did i say exactly?


Something along the line of, you need to be careful who you let in because if a "spectre" goes into a public game, he/she will be held to a certain standard, so they do not reflect badly on the rest of the group.

You should have the same standards on the forum.



I said that too and pretty much got tossed out the airlock so I don't think a few of them care.  It does reflect poorly on the group when you abuse people on the forum a point which biggs seems to think doesn't matter. 

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WTF

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Seriously, everyone who is poo pooing this thread just ignore it and move on...

Senseless to comment.. The best comment is not to comment!

It's cool that a group of quality players can get together and enjoy a day of laughs and mass killing sprees without breaking a sweat..

They have every right to do so as well as having requirements... And how they act in the forums doesn't reflect how they are in real life..  It's fantasy! A lot of gullible BSNers round here yo.

Too bad they don't like beer though. :(

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parico wrote...

dysturbed0ne wrote...

_only1biggs_ wrote...

dysturbed0ne wrote...

VoidNeXus 000 wrote...

I don't really think I should need to point out how incredibly stupid it is to make a bunch of broad generalizations about an entire group like that and then to follow it up with "but wait, it's only a few of them"

You're complaining about a minority, and truth be told it's pretty obvious the trolling in this thread is just to get a rise out of the typical BSN whiners that always show up in these threads dude.


Really. Should I also point out how hypocrtical it is to make that statement and then tell the forum that one bad player can spoil the image of all the spectres. I believe your leader said that.


excuse me? what did i say exactly?


Something along the line of, you need to be careful who you let in because if a "spectre" goes into a public game, he/she will be held to a certain standard, so they do not reflect badly on the rest of the group.

You should have the same standards on the forum.



I said that too and pretty much got tossed out the airlock so I don't think a few of them care.  It does reflect poorly on the group when you abuse people on the forum a point which biggs seems to think doesn't matter. 


I DO THINK IT MATTERS! i just never said it! are you two the same person or something? please pm me so i can show you what class is all about.