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For those of us who got the breathe scene, how do you think it ends?


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Cuddlezarro

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Raging Nug wrote...

Vexu234 wrote...

I really don't think they would have even bothered with the breathe scene just so Shepard could die 5 seconds later.

Shepard has survived impossible odds and while he got the crap kicked out of him/her from that laser, he doesn't appear to have any major injuries like broken bones. He's beaten up and lost a lot of blood yes, but if he's survived all that, it can be assumed he made it back to the beam.


It's up to your judgment to decide.

Personally I don't think being hit by a Reaper beam AND falling from space in the same day bode well for their survival. Yes, he's a tough badass, but I think Shep's on his/her last legs by the time they meet TIM/Starchild.

Might've taken a breath, but the context is up to you. I think if someone isn't about to find Shep right away, they're in trouble. If Shep's being dug out, survival's pretty likely, after which there would be pizza.


maybe he...didnt fall to earth? I find the idea of him surviving a fall to earth or even making it through out atmosphere without burning up to be completely moronic (note that the atmosphere on Alchera had less atm. pressure than earth and lower gravity and his corpse was still a badly mangled mess that you couldnt tell was male/female even)

its more likley he is somewhere on the citadel and bioware decided to reuse the rubble assets from london for the breath scene since its only like 5 seconds long and they was to lazy to make new stuff for a scene that long

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 18 avril 2013 - 07:46 .


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KiwiQuiche

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

Raging Nug wrote...

Vexu234 wrote...

I really don't think they would have even bothered with the breathe scene just so Shepard could die 5 seconds later.

Shepard has survived impossible odds and while he got the crap kicked out of him/her from that laser, he doesn't appear to have any major injuries like broken bones. He's beaten up and lost a lot of blood yes, but if he's survived all that, it can be assumed he made it back to the beam.


It's up to your judgment to decide.

Personally I don't think being hit by a Reaper beam AND falling from space in the same day bode well for their survival. Yes, he's a tough badass, but I think Shep's on his/her last legs by the time they meet TIM/Starchild.

Might've taken a breath, but the context is up to you. I think if someone isn't about to find Shep right away, they're in trouble. If Shep's being dug out, survival's pretty likely, after which there would be pizza.


maybe he...didnt fall to earth? I find the idea of him surviving a fall to earth or even making it through out atmosphere without burning up to be completely moronic (note that the atmosphere on Alchera had less atm. pressure than earth and lower gravity and his corpse was still a badly mangled mess that you couldnt tell was male/female even)

its more likley he is somewhere on the citadel and bioware decided to reuse the rubble assets from london for the breath scene since its only like 5 seconds long and they was to lazy to make new stuff for a scene that long


The IT'ers were all over those rubble assets though :lol:

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Voodoo2015 wrote...

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The immediate end of the breath scene? something along the lines of "ow, ow ow ow ow ow"
Later on, Shepard goes to Rannoch with Tali and tries to withdraw from the public eye to spend the rest of his days in peace, but something happens and an older Shepard goes out for one last adventure and doesn't return.


Isen't that Draogon Age?

I was thinking less of calling and more of just dying
but anyway
still what happens to my shepard

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KiwiQuiche wrote...

The IT'ers were all over those rubble assets though :lol:


I didnt go near that theory with a 1000ft pole lol

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What's next? Well....


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Well, hopefully someone finds Shep, and finds him/her fast. Cause massive blood loss and explosions of epic proportions right in the face, are bad for you. So. Yeah. I don't know if shep's 'alive' breath is a breath of life or the last breath of death. I think it's something else, but the point is moot. Shep's story is over. So who really cares.

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To me the breathe scene was unnecessary. The problem is how the ultimate choice is presented, not if Shepard survives. The unmoving body of Shepard with an eulogy by Hackett or the LI would have been just as moving.


With the breathe scene I would still prefer thinking that Shepard dies happy he achieved his goal and everyone is save, maybe die in the arms of the LI.

You could have made a bittersweet end with the LI and the crew being sad but full of hope that the galaxy is safe just as powerful. In reverse you could have made the lose situation a lot more gut wrenching with Liara's last recording being essentially seconds before the Reapers bash down the front door and overrun her last hiding place or make the Destroy option more ambigious with Joker crying over EDI and the Quarians looking astonished and somewhat horrified at the burnt out corpses of the Geth.

It's all about impact and convincing the player that an end is the logical conclusion of events. If you write a convincing story you can do anything to the character. The best books I read in that regard made me squirm and be mad at the author for doing such things to their character but forced me to accept them because they were the logical outcome of the story and the character.

It was foreshadowed, you knew when X happens your character will/must do Y

My problem with the ends are not shallow stuff like detail X didn't work but that the entire end sequence was a random, detached mess from what was building up over three games. It's sad because I found part of the presentation (aka Shepard limping and bleeding and without a chance to fight anymore) was great to create the sense of desperation. It was the three button choice that didn't work. It should have been: You made the following choices over the entirety of the trilogy so this means now that the Crucible will result in X (with potentially a full paragon or renegade run actually resulting in the worst end result in terms of sacrifices)

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With the Shepard lives scene I see Shepard being found by some people who haven't met her before and have no idea who she is. She is in a hospital somewhere, near death and receiving medical treatment. When she wakes up she has no idea who she is or where she came from and neither to those caring for her. After 12 months or so of failing to find her true identity she gives up on that quest and starts working with and helping out those who helped her. Over time, memories start returning, fragmented at first, just flashes until one day by chance she bumps in to her LI while on a mission.

The other two endings, control and synthesis I see very similar only this time with a Shepard clone that has no memories of Shepards life. This one also starts working with the group who helped bring them out of the statis tank or where-ever the clone was being kept. They help her to build a life. Over time, during missions she comes across these strange artifacts, each one imprints a small amount of memories in to Shepards mind until one day coming across Shepards LI and the artifact that pieces them all together. The shards turn out to be Javik's memory shards that had all of Shepards life imprinted on to them.

Mass Effect 4, by all appearances the game would be another character, an entirely new character because they have no idea who they are until the ending revelation. Shepards return at the end ;)

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I prefer to think of the breath scene as the start of something new--a new life, a new Reaperless galaxy, et cetera, battered and broken but still there, still viable. Coming up with the practical details of how or if Shep skitters out of the rubble, gets picked up or whatever, those details burst the satisfaction of the moment for me. So I enjoy it and try not to think about it a hell of a lot.

SHEPARD LIVES

(Whether for 5 secs or 50 years--it remains a mystery of the universe. I'm OK with that.)

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ThinkSharp wrote...

I prefer to think of the breath scene as the start of something new--a new life, a new Reaperless galaxy, et cetera, battered and broken but still there, still viable. Coming up with the practical details of how or if Shep skitters out of the rubble, gets picked up or whatever, those details burst the satisfaction of the moment for me. So I enjoy it and try not to think about it a hell of a lot.

SHEPARD LIVES

(Whether for 5 secs or 50 years--it remains a mystery of the universe. I'm OK with that.)



YES!


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For my Shepard?

It ends with this:

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Death is no match for the Turian Tango!

B) 

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It ends with the D. Awww yeah.


So your Shepard is gay now?

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 shepard surviving makes less sense than the catalyst

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* Shepard takes sudden breath while buried under some rubble *

* Shepard dies after bleeding out * (thanks to his injuries from Harbinger's beam. I still don't understand how Harbinger's beam gives Shepard gashes and cuts, meanwhile the beam can MELT several feet of STEEL. Doesn't make sense. And don't say IT cause I think that's BS)

* Weeks later, Shepard's body is found *

If MEHEM mod, well... Shepard survives.

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Well going with the rest of the ending. Shepard's LI, Liara in my Shepard's case throws that plaque down and tells Joker they're going back to the Citadel. The Normandy takes off, goes back to the Citadel and finds Shepard.

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I like to think my Shepard starts to get up, dusts himself off and stands, arms thrown wide and screaming out his victory to the stars. Then a dead Reaper falls on top of him from behind. Strikes me funny for some reason, but my sense of humor is like that sometimes.

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The Beam actually never hit Shepard, it just got really close.

If the beam hit him it would obviously have killed him right away, nobody could survive that and in the game if you get hit with a Reaper beam you insta die.

Remeber there was crap exploding all around him, so most likely the beam just got extremely close and flung rocks and rubble all over him. It for sure gets close enough to melt his armor.

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I took Jack out dancing.

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Star fury wrote...

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This with my current Shepard.

I am using the Citadel DLC to reinforce that.

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aj2070 wrote...

Star fury wrote...

http://t0.gstatic.co...GqMlfFJqnxxLfP9


This with my current Shepard.

I am using the Citadel DLC to reinforce that.

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* Shepard dies after bleeding out * (thanks to his injuries from Harbinger's beam. I still don't understand how Harbinger's beam gives Shepard gashes and cuts, meanwhile the beam can MELT several feet of STEEL. Doesn't make sense. And don't say IT cause I think that's BS)
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Shrapnel. There were tanks and vehicles exploding left and right. When you wake up you are essentially close to two burnt out tanks so they were hit by the beam (close enough to melt your armor) and then them exploding hit Shepard

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It ends with Commander Bailey pulling my ass out of the rubble and getting me to Huerta Memorial.

A few days later the Normandy crew shows up in addition to those on Earth and I start recovering.

After I've recovered I move to the South Pacific with Miranda and start fishing.

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Vexu234 wrote...

But my point is why even include the scene if Shepard dies 5 seconds later? Why does every ending have to be Shepard dying?

Why can't we have an ending where Garrus and Shepard are drinking some beer on a beach while looking at the ocean full of dead Reapers.

I don't know why Bioware would even bother with the effort of teasing us with a Breathe scene just to be like "Oh yeah he died right after that"


Look, there are no happy endings in war, especially in galactic war against Reapers. The whole game was about sacrifice and they already hinted at a possibilty of Shepard dying in ME2. It was inevitable, i knew it was going to happen and i was okay with that ending.

The only thing i was not okay with was that breath scene and how Bioware did not add onto it. It was an insult to fans who chose it. 

As to what i think happened after the scene...i don't know, i'll never know. I can only run different scenarios through my head. 

A. Shepard dies, bleeding out.
B. Shepard lifts off debris just to be blown to bits by a second explosion on the Citadel
C. Shepard lifts off debris just to die bleeding out/starvation, since he cannot get in contact with anybody.
D. Shepard lifts off debris, gets into contact with a nearby ship, but dies upon thier arrival.
E. Shepard is rescued by Normandy, but dies on the way to a medical facility, gets to say final goodbyes.
F. Shepard is rescued by Normandy, taken to the hospital, cannot be treated of his injuries, dies in a few years.
G. Shepard is rescued and treated back to health, recieved the highest honors and dies old alongside romance, unless Liara, of course.

And this is the epic one.

H. Shepard lifts off debris, to find out he is still on Earth. Anderson is running towards him when Harbinger notices them, but Normandy and a battalion of Makos and Hammerheads fire everything at him to knock his aim off slightly. Shepard and Anderson make it up the beam and to the control room. TIM shoots Anderson in the back, Shep shoots TIM, headshot mothafuka!
Anderson is still alive, barely. Shepard pressed the "destory" button but it does not work and he needs to reroute some power conduit. Shep needs to go through a hallway and gets ambushed. Fights off a bunch of reaper forces while the Reapers are trying to destroy the Crucible. Makes it to the 1st conduit and starts hearing voices syaing, "control them". He rubs it off and reaches the 2nd one when he hears "join them"  and rubs it off again. With splitting headaches he reaches back to the control room, only to notice Anderson standing up, perfectly healed, next to him a Keeper. Then a bunch of keepers show up and just stare at Shepard and, in unison, say "it is inevitable".
Anderson gets beamed out and Shepard hits the "destroy" button. The Crucible takes aim at all Reapers and one by one destroys them all. A warning blares in the Citadel "overheating, please evacuate" all the Keepers beam out saying "it is inevitable" and Shepard is left there alone, just to be blown away with the Crucible. 
Switch to Anderson a year later, giving a speech about Shepard and then awarding all the Normandy crew members the Shepard award. A cutscene, not slideshow,  for every member alive and what they go on to do next. For example, Liara and Javik spend time finishing thier book and Grunt and Wrex help rebuild Tuchunka. The end, closure for all Destroyers. But did we get that, FRACK NO!!!

I sat on my ****ter and wrote a better ending Bioware and it makes sense, makes more sense than starchild, and is still a mindbender because of the keepers, what is thier origin? how can they beeam out? and why did they leave Shepard and heal Anderson? All could have been found out in ME4 and still not pissed off half off your fanbase.

Edit: meant Harbinger not Soverign

Modifié par SyK18, 18 avril 2013 - 05:13 .