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[theshagster]

I finished up BotB a couple of weeks ago and since then have been playing a lot of my favorite kits.
HuSol/Rev and QSol/Eagle I doubt a lot of people would rate them as top 10 kits but I enjoy them. I consider it a goal just to be able to compete with the infiltrators and carry my own weight.

[TheVanishedOne]

My score goes down when I am sleepy.

[codsquallic]

It all seems pretty grind based. For awhile I thought Lone Wolf was a sign of a good player, but they are usually one of the worst. I like the Nomad, basically because It says what is it, a grind, "I've done X number of Waves on almost all of the maps."

[MaxCrushmore]

I have played with many BotB ers, and all of them have been competent teammates, contributing to the objectives ... do they always rock on the scoreboard? No ... to get that banner requires grinding with underpowered kits and gives an indication of personality type, those same players, many times, are still grinding various challenges, hence using underpowered set-ups .. while someone like myself is using a powerful kit .. so they get outscored.

I will probably never have because I don't typically play characters I don't like on Gold + ... and i'm not interested in endless Silver matches with those kits ... not enough enemy strength.

But those Botb ers have the experience in the game to help, and more often than not, are dominant players ...

[Xariann]

lktalon22 wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

You don't know how many of the other players in those games were also BotB holders.

Preach! Brotha Preach!!!

If that didn't hit the nail on the head?!

GAME OVER.

I guess you guys don't check manifests. And of course at the time of the recorded match, they might have not been BotB either.

[mackfactor]

The only challenging parts of the BotB banner are the Map Mastery (grinding Gold/Platinum waves) and Lone Wolf (either 2 Gold or 1 Platinum solo). The former can be done, eventually, even if you suck by leeching in to other people's Gold/Platinum lobbies for long enough. The latter, while more challenging, has ways around doing the actual challenge. There are a variety of ways one could probably cheat and get their solos in on PC, and on consoles, someone could grind out a couple Gold solos by hiding off map on Hydra with a Demolisher or caster.

So you never know what you're getting.

[HolyAvenger]

Xariann wrote...

lktalon22 wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

You don't know how many of the other players in those games were also BotB holders.

Preach! Brotha Preach!!!

If that didn't hit the nail on the head?!

GAME OVER.

I guess you guys don't check manifests. And of course at the time of the recorded match, they might have not been BotB either.

 

No I never check manifests, that's too much work for me. It's game on, anyway, I'll drag anyone through on gold, and in plat i'll just check weapon and consumables.

[Jason_53]

mackfactor wrote...

The only challenging parts of the BotB banner are the Map Mastery (grinding Gold/Platinum waves) and Lone Wolf (either 2 Gold or 1 Platinum solo). The former can be done, eventually, even if you suck by leeching in to other people's Gold/Platinum lobbies for long enough. The latter, while more challenging, has ways around doing the actual challenge. There are a variety of ways one could probably cheat and get their solos in on PC, and on consoles, someone could grind out a couple Gold solos by hiding off map on Hydra with a Demolisher or caster.

So you never know what you're getting.

Cheat?

What's the point of cheating?

I couldn't live with myself if I had cheated to get my Lone Wolf banner (and the BOTB right after).

I got it fair and square: one solo gold with the huntress in Vancouver vs. reapers and the second time with the kroguard in FB White vs. geth: silvers & bronzes using the salarian engineer in FB Giant, also vs. geth.

I made countless gold attempts before those 2 wins, using different kis and locatons, and it was so frustrating that I swore not to do solos again, and I have kept my word.

On the other hand, the satisfaction and sense of pride I felt after completing my second solo gold cannot be described with simple words

That satisfaction would have never been possible to feel if I had cheated

[OniGanon]

Experience has taught me that one can have BotB and still be bad.

But I don't really understand how it can be so.

I mean, BotB requires Lone Wolf and Nomad. That means at least 2 Gold or 1 Plat solo, and 200 Gold Waves on every single map.

I don't understand how someone can achieve that and not be a good player just through the sheer amount of play experience it demands.

How do you go through 250 Gold games and not be good at Gold?!

[Lukan]

I never use my botb banner because people either expect u to carry them as soon as they see it or if they're jelly they try to prove that u suck. Grow up.

[painforest_]

Banners, N7 and even maxed manifests are not indicators of skill. The only indicator of skill that can be quantified is score.

[tevix]

I've learned that botb means one of the following:

1) They're a completionist in video games and are just enjoying their prize for "getting" everything, if that makes sense. I fall into this category.

2) e-peen. Need I say more?

3) Trolling.

Like a title in an MMO, it guarantees only that they have managed to get the game to recognize that they have completed something significant (for want of a better word). It doesn't even guarantee they earned it legitamately.

Pugz will be pugz, and are just another face of the RNG god.

[sabreracer]

OniGanon wrote...

Experience has taught me that one can have BotB and still be bad.

But I don't really understand how it can be so.

I mean, BotB requires Lone Wolf and Nomad. That means at least 2 Gold or 1 Plat solo, and 200 Gold Waves on every single map.

I don't understand how someone can achieve that and not be a good player just through the sheer amount of play experience it demands.

How do you go through 250 Gold games and not be good at Gold?!

100 Gold waves.  I cheated by including several 100 Platinum waves instead 

Edit : The 200 are hazard waves

Modifié par sabreracer, 18 avril 2013 - 10:56 .

[Heldarion]

warriorsea wrote...

My score goes down when I am sleepy.

My scores go up when in drinking games; other people get drunk faster 

[yamada1979]

I wish they would change the name of the banner to something else that is less presumptuous. "Unwavering" would be good (like the trophy). I've never used the banner and never will.

[Katinka]

If any banner is considered to have meaning then BotB has to mean the most since it requires the others (discounting special event banners and Reckoning banner). i.e. Respect Nomad, must respect BotB too since any BotB has to have Nomad.

I don't judge people on banner though as it does not guarantee anything about how they will play in the upcoming game. As an example, I used a Ghost to get Lone Wolf and since then have done enough with the AIU to do it again. This means nothing when I play an asari (which I usually do) and bears no resemblance at all to my performance with a Talon (I'm rubbish with him). Meanwhile a friend of mine who is probably about the same skill level will never get BotB because he refuses to play solo but has a highrer challenge score because he uses a greater variety of weapons and melees more than me.

In summary: There is no hard and fast rule. Banners, challenge points and N7 just hint at what someone might be capable of in optimum circumstance.

[GunWraith]

 Sadly the OP is correct, BotB is just as worthless now as N7 rank is/was.

[Geist.H]

Experience has taught me that one can have BotB and still be bad.

But I don't really understand how it can be so.

I mean, BotB requires Lone Wolf and Nomad. That means at least 2 Gold or 1 Plat solo, and 200 Gold Waves on every single map.

I don't understand how someone can achieve that and not be a good player just through the sheer amount of play experience it demands.

How do you go through 250 Gold games and not be good at Gold?!

They probably farmed with the Box of Shame, used nothing but crutch classes/weapons and copied builds from other players without ever trying to figure anything out by themselves.

In the end they succeeded in grinding out achievements, but learnt very little about the game.

A person can do the same job for a life-time and never get better at it if she doesn't want and try to improve herself.

[SGsunny]

I don't look at these numbers and decide if I want to play a game or not. I usually just play in whichever lobby I got thrown into, even continue with the same team after wiping since I believe that second and third attempts will make our team work better. Unless there's a leecher among us or I have to attend to real life matters.

I've rejoined the MP recently so have been lagging behind in the points section. Quite sad that my 3 successful Bronze solo attempts are not recorded. May be motivated to re-do those again but I'm more interested in farming credits now to collect those new items before this MP closes down.

[JohnDoe]

I think you need to put into consideration the enemy and the characters..
I dont think adepts will do very well against geth for example..
while an infiltrator will cream almost everything.