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[Wesley Wyndam Price]

Well after downloading and playing RTO while it was still up on XBL...his body is no where to be found at Ostagar only his weapons. While it could be that his body was taken away or even eaten it's still possible for him to return (I think he will return as some form of darkspawn)

[Costin_Razvan]

Duncan, the last boss of DA Awakening

[BeljoraDien]

*SPOILERS*



It turns out that the Hurlock's bad aim missed Duncan's neck and hit his beard instead, shattering the blade of the axe. Duncan then wrapped his beard around the Hurlock's neck and snapped it like a twig.

As for why he didn't return to help the PC, it turns out he actually was an Orlesian spy sent to have King Cailin killed in an elaborate ruse. Loghain had this figured out, obviously, but was unable to stop it in time.

[Bathead]

It seems to me it was left deliberately vague enough that it could go either way, so that Bioware could determine Duncan's fate however they see fit, however it would best serve the story.

[FlintlockJazz]

melkathi wrote...

FlintlockJazz wrote...

*Puts on his best Brian Blessed voice*

Duncan's ALIVE?!!

(If you don't get the reference I'll lose all hope in humanity).

Duncan - ah - saviour of Thedas
Duncan - ah - he'll save ev'ry one of us


(Seemingly there is no reason for these

Extraordinary darkspawn sightings (ha ha ha)
What's happening Duncan?

Only Warden Alistair formerly of The Chantry

Has provided any explanation)

Duncan - ah - he's a miracle


(This mornings unprecedented dark spawn raid on Lothering

Is no cause for alarm)


Duncan - ah - king of the impossible

He's for ev'ry one of us

Stand for ev'ry one of us

He'll save with a mighty hand

Ev'ry man ev'ry woman ev'ry child

With his mighty beard

("Genlock Alpha, Duncan approaching"

"What do you mean Duncan approaching?

Open fire all weapons

Dispatch Ogre Alpha to bring back his body")



Duncan - ah


("Duncan's alive")

Duncan - ah - he'll save ev'ry one of us

Just a man with a man's courage

He knows nothing but a man

But he can never fail

No one but the pure in heart

May find Andraste's Ashes oh oh oh oh


("Duncan, Duncan, I love you

But we only have fourteen hours to save Ferelden")


Duncan

Why did I get flashes of the Flash Gordon intro with Flash replaced by Duncan go through my head while reading that...  Awesome work dude!

[melkathi]

FlintlockJazz wrote...


Why did I get flashes of the Flash Gordon intro with Flash replaced by Duncan go through my head while reading that...  Awesome work dude!

Why indeed? I wonder...

But your "Duncan is alive?" line made me realize just how awesome Griffons would be in this game.
Just think about it:
Duncan goes to draw the darkspawn horde into the mist.
Meanwhile you have another bearded Grey Warden in the clouds above, leading a troop of wardens all mounted on Griffons.
"Dive!"

[packardbell]

Hopefully, he had great character and why isn't is his body there?



He is most likely a Ghoul though that would be a very fast transformation indeed.

[SarEnyaDor]

I do not think he is dead - but I don't think he is a living, breathing human Grey Warden anymore, either. If what I think is at all correct then we all should really wishe he is dead.

I think he's gone the way of Bregan.

Modifié par SarEnyaDor, 16 janvier 2010 - 07:12 .

[FlintlockJazz]

melkathi wrote...

FlintlockJazz wrote...


Why did I get flashes of the Flash Gordon intro with Flash replaced by Duncan go through my head while reading that...  Awesome work dude!

Why indeed? I wonder...

But your "Duncan is alive?" line made me realize just how awesome Griffons would be in this game.
Just think about it:
Duncan goes to draw the darkspawn horde into the mist.
Meanwhile you have another bearded Grey Warden in the clouds above, leading a troop of wardens all mounted on Griffons.
"Dive!"

If they release a Griffon expansion or include them in a DA2 then I'm gonna have to roll up a new character that looks something like this...





Unfortunately, I've realised that none of the Origins really fit well enough for it at the mo, so Bioware I need you to make a Brian Blessed Origin, thanks!

Modifié par FlintlockJazz, 16 janvier 2010 - 07:18 .

[TheMadCat]

melkathi wrote...

Maker, I hope he's dead.
I hate it when writers can't let a character die. It robs the story of all drama.

Agree 110%.

[melkathi]

Since the question has come up a few times now, I went and asked an expert for his opinion.

[.Faine]

melkathi wrote...

Since the question has come up a few times now, I went and asked an expert for his opinion.

I can't stop giggling at this.

[melkathi]

.Faine wrote...

melkathi wrote...

Since the question has come up a few times now, I went and asked an expert for his opinion.

I can't stop giggling at this.

Thank you.
As Alistair would say: I do my best

And sipping my tea, I will go back to contemplating plans of forum domination.

[Ulicus]

Wa, ha, ha, nothing happened to him! The earth yawned wide open to take him but he scrambled to safety! SABIN!! It is now time to complete your training. Use these new skills to smash Kefka! Put 'em up!

[melkathi]

Ulicus wrote...

Wa, ha, ha, nothing happened to him! The earth yawned wide open to take him but he scrambled to safety! SABIN!! It is now time to complete your training. Use these new skills to smash Kefka! Put 'em up!

That was an awesome game.
Celes waking up alone on that island... good drama. Nowadays people would turn that part into an expansion.

[I Valente I]

TheMadCat wrote...

melkathi wrote...

Maker, I hope he's dead.
I hate it when writers can't let a character die. It robs the story of all drama.

Agree 110%.

Except that they've already let numoerous characters die, both in Dragon Age and in their previous games. It wouldn't surprise me if he was alive, they definitely left it a loose end. I also don't assume that it will be cheesy JUST because he's alive, give the story and writers a chance to justify it. Assumptions like that are pretty ignorant imo.

[Metallicka]

after playing through RtO, I did think it was odd that there was no body if Duncan's really dead...

[Maconbar]

I think that when the screen goes to white Duncan gets shifted in time. I think that he will seek out the PC earlier and provide a warning about the events at Ostagar. Unless Thedas follows whatever happened, happened rules for time travel.

[_Aine_]

 I think DUncan could possibly have pulled a stunt and saved himself dramatically.  Hey, it's Duncan! 

Failing that, it's a good thing Flemeth was around to save you and Alistair...of course, she very likely wouldn't have saved anyone else...right? right?  

..

On the bright side, Duncan could come back completely dead and still give us 40+ hours of content brought to you live from the Fade. Ain't imagination grand?

Modifié par shantisands, 17 janvier 2010 - 02:48 .

[melkathi]

I Valente I wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

melkathi wrote...

Maker, I hope he's dead.
I hate it when writers can't let a character die. It robs the story of all drama.

Agree 110%.

Except that they've already let numoerous characters die, both in Dragon Age and in their previous games. It wouldn't surprise me if he was alive, they definitely left it a loose end. I also don't assume that it will be cheesy JUST because he's alive, give the story and writers a chance to justify it. Assumptions like that are pretty ignorant imo.

There are no assumptions in what you quoted, simply stated opinions.
And the fact that they have let characters die, does not mean that a return of Duncan would be good.
Of course I don't remember Bioware having started another endeavor as big as the creation of the Dragon Age IP. So there is no real relevant history to base any assumption on.

The concern about a returning Duncan is a valid one though. The trick of "leaving it open" should not be used too often. And the more characters that are assumed dead turn up alive, the higher the risk of loosing the audience's trust. The storyteller chooses what information the audience has and thus must always be careful when reversing what his audience might very well be regarding as fact.
The other danger of course is that of creating superhuman characters that can easily end up trivialising any threat in the tale. Especially in a game, npcs that are too powerfull, can cast too great a shadow on the player and raise the question: Why am I needed?

That said, the whole thread is speculative. We will have to wait and see what awakening and the future bring. But calling one side in a yes/no speculation ignorant... bad form

[Jimbe2693]

Duncan had alot of health poultices and kept tipping them down his throat while the hurlock alpha was trying to hack his beard off.



He's alive

[_Aine_]

Jimbe2693 wrote...

Duncan had alot of health poultices and kept tipping them down his throat while the hurlock alpha was trying to hack his beard off.

He's alive

lol Duncan KNOWS combat tactics.  

[trh5001]

Duncan was captured and taken to the architect so he could try and understand the taint because as Avernus says its foreign to them and its what gives the Grey Wardens their abilities. The darkspawn want to know why they keep losing.

[nubbers666]

nope hes dead cuase it shows that demon bringing a ax down on his head:sick:

[SinYang]

Im glad hes dead, if he lived Dragon age would be about working for Duncan, the end wouldve been Duncan heading off to slay the archdemon while you sat in camp.



He had to die for your character to take the lead role.