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[Volc19]

Even without OP's crazy conditions, one must admit that the galaxy as a whole isn't as prepared to face down the Levis without Reapers as backup.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Volc19 wrote...

Even without OP's crazy conditions, one must admit that the galaxy as a whole isn't as prepared to face down the Levis without Reapers as backup.

We figured out how to block Levi mind control.

Levi combat plan.

1. Shield artifacts
2. Find Levi's
3. Nuke the site from orbit
4. Repeat until done.

Modifié par Grand Admiral Cheesecake, 21 avril 2013 - 05:23 .

[Phatose]

You forgot step 2.5 - hope desperately they can't take control of your nukes.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Phatose wrote...

You forgot step 2.5 - hope desperately they can't take control of your nukes.

Not actual nukes silly.

Regular orbital bombardment.




(How dare you not get that Aliens shout out!)

Modifié par Grand Admiral Cheesecake, 21 avril 2013 - 05:27 .

[Indy_S]

I might be more sympathetic towards you're strange proposal if your argument wasn't fundamentally identical to the Control choice, Wulfie.

[Phatose]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Phatose wrote...

You forgot step 2.5 - hope desperately they can't take control of your nukes.

Not actual nukes silly.

Regular orbital bombardment.




(How dare you not get that Aliens shout out!)

Oh, I got it.

It's just that Xenomorphs are largely pretty dumb, and it's really impressive when they cut the power, while Leviathans manage to avoid super-mega-kill-everybody bots for millions of years and have shields and mind control devices.

Doesn't really seem to be the same thing.

[Volc19]

They were the apex race of the galaxy at a point, and there could be more on other worlds. They likely wouldn't put all of their eggs in one basket when it comes to hiding places; what if the Reapers found them? Bombing the hell out of the three that we know of is a start, but it doesn't solve the problem.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Volc19 wrote...

They were the apex race of the galaxy at a point, and there could be more on other worlds. They likely wouldn't put all of their eggs in one basket when it comes to hiding places; what if the Reapers found them? Bombing the hell out of the three that we know of is a start, but it doesn't solve the problem.

Then we pull the same stunt from Leviathan.

Let the Levi's control someone expendable and home in on their location.

That's why the "Kill it from orbit" part was repeatable.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Phatose wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Phatose wrote...

You forgot step 2.5 - hope desperately they can't take control of your nukes.

Not actual nukes silly.

Regular orbital bombardment.




(How dare you not get that Aliens shout out!)

Oh, I got it.

It's just that Xenomorphs are largely pretty dumb, and it's really impressive when they cut the power, while Leviathans manage to avoid super-mega-kill-everybody bots for millions of years and have shields and mind control devices.

Doesn't really seem to be the same thing.

The Leviathans only survived because Glow Boy thought he got them all.

We know better.

Besides if they're hiding all we have to do is destroy all their orbs. Completely negating their influence on the galaxy at large.

[Phatose]

So if "Nuke it from orbit" worked, why didn't the Reapers the Leviathan's killed do that?

[Volc19]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Volc19 wrote...

They were the apex race of the galaxy at a point, and there could be more on other worlds. They likely wouldn't put all of their eggs in one basket when it comes to hiding places; what if the Reapers found them? Bombing the hell out of the three that we know of is a start, but it doesn't solve the problem.

Then we pull the same stunt from Leviathan.

Let the Levi's control someone expendable and home in on their location.

That's why the "Kill it from orbit" part was repeatable.

You would think that they would eventually catch on and start actively trying to murder us.

It's always a safe bet to have the one thing that beat the Levis before on-hand.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Phatose wrote...

So if "Nuke it from orbit" worked, why didn't the Reapers the Leviathan's killed do that?

The Levi's had surprise on their side.

We know what they can do, we can shield what they can do, and we can engage them from well outside their zone of influence.

The Leviathans could try to reclaim their throne sure.

But we'd crush them worse than Abigor's army.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Volc19 wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Volc19 wrote...

They were the apex race of the galaxy at a point, and there could be more on other worlds. They likely wouldn't put all of their eggs in one basket when it comes to hiding places; what if the Reapers found them? Bombing the hell out of the three that we know of is a start, but it doesn't solve the problem.

Then we pull the same stunt from Leviathan.

Let the Levi's control someone expendable and home in on their location.

That's why the "Kill it from orbit" part was repeatable.

You would think that they would eventually catch on and start actively trying to murder us.

It's always a safe bet to have the one thing that beat the Levis before on-hand.

When they figure it out we'll switch to smashing all of their orbs. They'll be isolated and unable to act.

Problem solved.

We destroyed the Reapers, their weaker squishier creators won't stop us.

Modifié par Grand Admiral Cheesecake, 21 avril 2013 - 05:39 .

[Volc19]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Phatose wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Phatose wrote...

You forgot step 2.5 - hope desperately they can't take control of your nukes.

Not actual nukes silly.

Regular orbital bombardment.




(How dare you not get that Aliens shout out!)

Oh, I got it.

It's just that Xenomorphs are largely pretty dumb, and it's really impressive when they cut the power, while Leviathans manage to avoid super-mega-kill-everybody bots for millions of years and have shields and mind control devices.

Doesn't really seem to be the same thing.

The Leviathans only survived because Glow Boy thought he got them all.

We know better.

Besides if they're hiding all we have to do is destroy all their orbs. Completely negating their influence on the galaxy at large.

The Leviathans would know if you started destroying the orbs. Once you break the first one, the rest of the thralls would go underground with their orbs under the Leviathans' influence. That would only make them angry.

Also, even if the orbs were gone, they still aren't neutralized. They aren't sedentary, they conquered the galaxy at a point in time. They could make some more orbs, fly over to a colony and enthrall them with relative ease.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Volc19 wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Phatose wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Phatose wrote...

You forgot step 2.5 - hope desperately they can't take control of your nukes.

Not actual nukes silly.

Regular orbital bombardment.




(How dare you not get that Aliens shout out!)

Oh, I got it.

It's just that Xenomorphs are largely pretty dumb, and it's really impressive when they cut the power, while Leviathans manage to avoid super-mega-kill-everybody bots for millions of years and have shields and mind control devices.

Doesn't really seem to be the same thing.

The Leviathans only survived because Glow Boy thought he got them all.

We know better.

Besides if they're hiding all we have to do is destroy all their orbs. Completely negating their influence on the galaxy at large.

The Leviathans would know if you started destroying the orbs. Once you break the first one, the rest of the thralls would go underground with their orbs under the Leviathans' influence. That would only make them angry.

Also, even if the orbs were gone, they still aren't neutralized. They aren't sedentary, they conquered the galaxy at a point in time. They could make some more orbs, fly over to a colony and enthrall them with relative ease.

Then we'll kill them as they make themselves known.

There is literally no scenario in which the squiddies walk out on top.

[Ecrulis]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

These kind of leap of logic opinions are always hard to argue against without basically calling out the person for being foolish.

But that's okay, it's not like I'm interested in a logical debate with, say, members of the Westboro Baptist Church, I'm quite happy to argue with a similar level of rhetoric. And mine are long and sharp, my lord, as long and sharp as yours.

Nice GoT reference, I aprrove

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Ecrulis wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

These kind of leap of logic opinions are always hard to argue against without basically calling out the person for being foolish.

But that's okay, it's not like I'm interested in a logical debate with, say, members of the Westboro Baptist Church, I'm quite happy to argue with a similar level of rhetoric. And mine are long and sharp, my lord, as long and sharp as yours.

Nice GoT reference, I aprrove

Humph I'm still waiting for someone to get my Abigor reference.

[Volc19]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Volc19 wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Phatose wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Phatose wrote...

You forgot step 2.5 - hope desperately they can't take control of your nukes.

Not actual nukes silly.

Regular orbital bombardment.




(How dare you not get that Aliens shout out!)

Oh, I got it.

It's just that Xenomorphs are largely pretty dumb, and it's really impressive when they cut the power, while Leviathans manage to avoid super-mega-kill-everybody bots for millions of years and have shields and mind control devices.

Doesn't really seem to be the same thing.

The Leviathans only survived because Glow Boy thought he got them all.

We know better.

Besides if they're hiding all we have to do is destroy all their orbs. Completely negating their influence on the galaxy at large.

The Leviathans would know if you started destroying the orbs. Once you break the first one, the rest of the thralls would go underground with their orbs under the Leviathans' influence. That would only make them angry.

Also, even if the orbs were gone, they still aren't neutralized. They aren't sedentary, they conquered the galaxy at a point in time. They could make some more orbs, fly over to a colony and enthrall them with relative ease.

Then we'll kill them as they make themselves known.

There is literally no scenario in which the squiddies walk out on top.

You say "kill them" as if it were easy. We don't know where they all are, they're really powerful, they can control minds, they currently have a large handful of agents leftover from the Reaper War, and they were once the god-emporers of the entire galaxy.

They're basically Reapers, and we needed a deus ex machina to get rid of those.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

You're dramatically inflating the threat they represent.

When the chips were down and defeat was staring them in the face the Levi's ran and hid for millions of years.

They're arrogant, stupid, and worst of all cowardly.

They can try to reclaim their throne, hell they might even be able to inflict some real damage but at the end of the day they'll only ever be a pale reflection of the enemy we already destroyed.

And once they are defeated they will be given a simple choice: play nice or be exterminated. (Hmm I started to sound a bit like Shreaper at the end there.)

[Yestare7]

tonofluck21 wrote...

You know I used to wonder why destroyers would hate on us controllers and synthesizers, after seeing this I understand.

Wonderfull!!   Then Wulf has accomplished something here!!

[TheIdiocyWizard2.0]

Bah, the Leviathans don't exist in any of my playthrough's, because I refuse to download the DLC on the grounds that I find the concept absolutely retarded. But, for the sake of argument, if your points somehow happened to be true, then I would counter by saying that we just rebuild the Citadel and a Leviathan specific Crucible in time before they make their move, and we use it to completely destroy them.

See, I can make up crap too.

[Astartes Marine]

Ecrulis wrote...

Astartes Marine wrote...
No change for me, destruction of the Reapers...although the Leviathans should be dealt with as well.
I'll go with the Ripley-Hicks solution. Nuke the place from orbit. Only way to be sure.

Yup, in fact I vote for overkill, multiple nukes, make the planet uninhabitable

Both of these seem appropriate.  Link 1, and link 2.

Oh Warhammer has truly spoiled me, no other universe has quite that kind of firepower so readily available.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Astartes Marine wrote...

Ecrulis wrote...

Astartes Marine wrote...
No change for me, destruction of the Reapers...although the Leviathans should be dealt with as well.
I'll go with the Ripley-Hicks solution. Nuke the place from orbit. Only way to be sure.

Yup, in fact I vote for overkill, multiple nukes, make the planet uninhabitable

Both of these seem appropriate.  Link 1, and link 2.

Oh Warhammer has truly spoiled me, no other universe has quite that kind of firepower so readily available.

I like this human, he understands.

Time to purge those Xenos with the holy fury of the Emprah!

[schebobo]

Lol you again???

-2/10

[S.A.K]

The Levis were hinding for f*** knows how many millions of years because they can't face the Reapers. The galactic forces just beat them. By the time the relays are repaired, most fleets will be operational again with newly found Reaper tech. Till then Levis can't do anything anyway. Considering most races are friends now and the reletively low number of Levis, I don't think they'll be hard as the Reapers. Plus we already know how to block their mind control signal.