Ser Conners wrote...
anorling wrote...
I do not belive that the wealth of knowledge of every species is preserved in the Reapers. The whole idea is just silly.
The only thing preseverd inside the reapers is organic goo; DNA. But not knowledge, no sings of their way of life, their culture. Just DNA soup.
The Data and Knowledge is extracted from databases and whatever sources the Reapers find when they Harvest. This is told by Leviathan, The Catalsyt, Liara in certain dialouge and many other sources. They do in fact harvest the data as well as the people.
But my question from your last thread still stands: What do any other cultures knowledge have to do with scientific advancement? Specifically, how are they more any different than ours? Weren't they wiped out before they could figure out anything about the Reaper tech?
That said, if destroy works the way it's said to, then wouldn't the data from the Reapers themselves still be available?
Wouldn't the data be irrelevant from the acquisition of actual Reaper technology from the Reaper corpses themselves?
That said, without meta-gaming, what makes you believe in the Catalyst? Wouldn't his non-organic perspective be completely different from that of an organic?
Here's another reason I don't believe anything the Catalyst will say beyond the hard truth (like destroy):
He claims to have created a means of Synthesis before and failed (The Reapers). As a completely synthetic being (given that there is no indication that he is created from any kind of organic material; thought patterns don't count.), what would we have to know about an organic perspective?
As a synthetic dictated by hs core logic and machine ordered nature I don't think he's able to understand what he does to other living beings. They suffer and are completely altered in ways that are undesirable and horrendous to those beings. Without meta-gaming, what makes you think this will be any different. Sure, he may believe in his own solution. I don't doubt that. But with what I've seen of the Reapers and what he's said just now, that leads me to a conclusion: He doesn't have the same organic perspective as me. He doesn't understand.
He states this literally about other sythetics in his already laughably unbelievable description of synthesis. But he leaves out one little detail: he forgets that he too is synthetic and he doesn't understand organics. It's perfect to him because he doesn't have an organic perspective on the matter, save for the external opinion of Shepard. And that's all it is. External. You can't really argue with the logic of a synthetic with the nature of the Catalyst. It's always going to be right about its assessments because the programming and the logic and the calculations say so.
It fails to recognize that it itself is a very problem of what its trying to solve.
Also, I'm disinclined to believe that the Catalyst is truly intelligent. It has a facsimile of sapience, but I don't think it's capable of understanding the inherent flaw of its problem as postulated by inherently flawed organic beings as Leviathan.
Its mandate is to preserve all life at all costs and to prevent conflict between synthetics and organics. Going by what he says, its an impossible question. I personally believe that the question has a solution that is different than synthesis (and even if there isn't, I'd rather achieve it on our own, scientifically and with the consent of the people, and preferably for a different reason than the organics and synthetic problem). But the catalyst is mandated to carry out the problem anyway. I don't think it really understands what it is doing to races by turning them into Reapers. And then mandating those Reapers to annihilate the very life it sought to preserve.
Perhaps he is technically preserving the races and preventing conflict from arising. What gives him the ability to play god? Why should we all fall into its pattern of existence to satisfy an issue that isn't even ours, or one that we can overcome ourselves? Where is the ability to overcome and innovate?
It sounds to me like the Catalyst also doesn't understand the very problem he's been given. There's no growth, no change, no real advancement beyond the norm. No real way for change in a species to take place with his Reapers intact, and his mandate given. Where's the ability to become something more through understanding of our own problems, of the understanding of ourselves, not just of others? The Catalyst doesn't see this or even mention it. Always dictated by his problem and solution, he stifles the growth to momentarily mollify his conflict.
And where the hell did "make way for new life" come from. That's a kark asspull. Seriously! It's brought up once by the Catalyst and never mentioned again.
That just goes to show how bad the writing was. The endings being happy was more or less made by BW so that people could choose what they wanted to and not feel pressured into accepting a canon ending.
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