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[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

No. I'm playing on the PS3 now. And I don't like MEHEM too much because it has misplaced shots that do not make sense.

I'm looking at the Extended Cut Synthesis Footage right now, and I keep getting weird feelings. Is this what Mass Effect is all about? How can Synthesis be the "Main Theme" of the Trilogy. I have been playing Mass Effect for 3 years now, and I always had one belief and one goal. That the Protheans, and many races before them vanished because of the Reaper, and that we as a Galaxy were next. Why do I have to let my belief change so drastically at the End? In a way, Synthesis does not fit the way I interpret Mass Effect for myself, how I see My Story(ies). Destroy does because of what I fought for for 3 years. It goes from preparing for the coming of the Reapers and fighting them and saving the Galaxy from them, to Synthesis between Organics and Synthetics? That doesn't feel as "Linear" as Destroy.

1) Synthesis doesn't connect to me as much as Destroy does.

2) Everyone became united and fought for ONE cause, not for some other cause. Shepard did too. Everyone ends up changing unwillingly, even the younger races.

3) My Love Interest is Miranda Lawson. In Destroy, she is seen looking up at the Stars, either missing me, or waiting for me believing that I am still alive. She is shown like that because she is My Love Interest, so I have that slide. It either finishes her Story and our Romance Arc, or give hope that a reunion is at hand in the Future. In Synthesis, I don't get that. Miranda is shown at a table with Alliance Officers, doing something, I don't know what it is. It doesn't matter. It does NOT show any type of Romance, no waiting, no mourning, nothing....as if the Romance never happened.
Remember 2 pages ago when I said that there are a few things in Synthesis that does not feel "Complete" for me? Well, this is a HUGE Part.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 22 avril 2013 - 06:59 .

[JDee3]

Lol wouldnt you have to try it on your playthrough to see the miranda thing

but yeah I'm not sure synthesis feels right to anyone lol.. Unless you were really pushing for Joker and EDI which is all I see its there for. And it's definitely not the theme of the series. The story of synthetics becoming human like and all that only gets really strong in ME3 with EDI and Geth

..and is subtly there in previous games.. but definitely not the theme.. just lead up

The end is definitely meant to get players to think hard on what they want though. After all that's happened, what is they think is best

Modifié par JDee3, 22 avril 2013 - 07:09 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

JDee3 wrote...

Lol wouldnt you have to try it on your playthrough to see the miranda thing

 

I checked, it doesn't. Not even Control.

I'm watching the Extended Cut Destroy Footage with Miranda as the Love Interest right now on YouTube, and I feel the Connection that I wanted. The connection between me and that Ending (Destroy) is there. An Ending like this is what I have grown up with. The Return Of The Jedi was like this, and so was Return Of The King. I grew up watching many great Stories of Good Vs Evil (I am NOT  saying that EDI and the Geth are evil!!!!), and Destroy fits in that Category, and so it connects with me. Anyone understand what I am trying to say?

[shodiswe]

Return of the Jedi, you kill millions or something bad people on the deathstar using the deusex machina ventilation pipe that's somehow ventilating into vacum which would "totaly" make sense, you win, big celebration.

Return of the King, you call in a huge army of immortal undead deusexmachina that slaughters all opposition, you are the big hero, all enemies are dead.

It kind of fits with those traditions of storytelling.

Personaly, I prefer Control and saving people... One of the reason is that those above examples didn't kill a lot of allies and friendlies. Destroy however does. I'm fine with killing reapers sicne they are using guns on others, but I'm also fine with simply aresting them and having them work of their debt to society(not that the ever can, but they can try).

Modifié par shodiswe, 22 avril 2013 - 07:26 .

[AlanC9]

JDee3 wrote...

but yeah I'm not sure synthesis feels right to anyone lol.. 

Well, some folks like it. In fact, Synthesis usually outpolls Control by a few points.

[AlanC9]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
 In Synthesis, I don't get that. Miranda is shown at a table with Alliance Officers, doing something, I don't know what it is. It doesn't matter. It does NOT show any type of Romance, no waiting, no mourning, nothing....as if the Romance never happened.

I think Bio didn't want to show her waiting for a reunion with someone who has been disintegrated. Sooner or later she's going to move on with her life, and that's what you're seeing.

[JDee3]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

JDee3 wrote...

Lol wouldnt you have to try it on your playthrough to see the miranda thing 

 

I checked, it doesn't. Not even Control.

I'm watching the Extended Cut Destroy Footage with Miranda as the Love Interest right now on YouTube, and I feel the Connection that I wanted. The connection between me and that Ending (Destroy) is there. An Ending like this is what I have grown up with. The Return Of The Jedi was like this, and so was Return Of The King. I grew up watching many great Stories of Good Vs Evil (I am NOT[/i]  saying that EDI and the Geth are evil!!!!), and Destroy fits in that Category, and so it connects with me. Anyone understand what I am trying to say?

That's you're ending then :happy: and I completely get he whole romance thing and everything. Seeing Liara sad after i choose control is the worst. i hate it so much ive only gone through it a couple of times. I don't like to metagaming but whatever, it's your playthrough. You just have to be happy with it and deal with seeing synthetics and everything die like I have to deal with me love interest heart broken. It's a tough ending for all of us :/

[AlanC9]

JDee3's right. With concerns like yours Destroy is what you want.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I'm not metagaming. What the hell is metagaming precisely?

[S.A.K]

Well I am sorry about EDI. But I am not sorry about destroying the Geth. They have been more trouble than they are worth and have the blood of billions on their hands.

[JDee3]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

I'm not metagaming. What the hell is metagaming precisely?

when you base your decision in the game on the resulst of the decisions which you're not even suppose to know yet. That's my understanding of the word at least lol kinda takes away the role playing part of it for me personally

[JDee3]

S.A.K wrote...

Well I am sorry about EDI. But I am not sorry about destroying the Geth. They have been more trouble than they are worth and have the blood of billions on their hands.

Why didn't you let the quarians kill them then ._.

[S.A.K]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

I'm not metagaming. What the hell is metagaming precisely?

It means making choices based on information that cannot be known to the player character at that time.
Ex: Choosing not to sabotage the Genophage cure because you know Wrex will have to be killed later.

[S.A.K]

JDee3 wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

Well I am sorry about EDI. But I am not sorry about destroying the Geth. They have been more trouble than they are worth and have the blood of billions on their hands.

Why didn't you let the quarians kill them then ._.

Well I always like more fleets. I am not saying I like killing them anyway. They are just a worthy sacrifice to stop the Reapers and I don't feel bad about sacrificing them.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

I'm not metagaming. What the hell is metagaming precisely?

OMG. Check Your PM. I thought you were on the console. I could have saved a bunch of pixels.

[Eain]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

I Love Destroy. I have nothing but anger for the Reapers. They have been harvesting, indoctrinating, and murdering for quite possibly millions of years, maybe longer. More than I can count. I stand there on the Citadel at the final moment. I got the Reapers by the balls, so there's no doubt that the Catalyst became desperate at this moment in time. I like to think that the Catalyst took the form of the Child I saw die on Earth as a way of compassion and persuasion. I didn't fall for it. I'm not going to listen to the head honcho of the Reapers at the very last minute, wounded or not.

Except you did because you chose an option on the Spacekid's terms and not your own.

Refuse is the only thing anyone that actually hated the Reapers would do, because the game still doesn't give Shepard a reason to believe a word the Spacekid is telling him.

For all Shepard knows shooting the tube sabotages the Crucible beyond repair.

[Asharad Hett]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

 I got the Reapers by the balls

Oh really? 

[Argolas]

Asharad Hett wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

 I got the Reapers by the balls

Oh really? 

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmh

[Yestare7]

Oh my goodness, they are just a bunch of robots!!

Shoot the tube, done.

Modifié par Yestare7, 22 avril 2013 - 10:55 .

[Yestare7]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

It's hard forgetting about the other Endings. No matter how much you choose Destroy, the other Endings are there in your face, as it they are trying to lure you in, especially Synthesis.

That my friend, is called indoctrination. Synthesis knows all about it...

[Mangalores]

Eain wrote...

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Except you did because you chose an option on the Spacekid's terms and not your own.

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For all Shepard knows shooting the tube sabotages the Crucible beyond repair.

To me Destroy and Refuse are the same ending. The later just implies you try to get off the platform and do something clever which based on the ending fails. Destroy is Shepard just being lucky that his genre savyness about the explosive combination of guns and main reactors does hold up. Since the Crucible was doing squat by that point causing a big boom that destroys it and possibly the Catalyst which confirmed it's on the Citadel, is really not much of a risk. You couldn't get it out of there anyhow and the fleet would be annihilated without it doing anything.

It was essentially going kamikaze. It would have been great if it had resulted in a thank you by the Catalyst for disabling the threat.

Modifié par Mangalores, 22 avril 2013 - 11:06 .

[TheWill]

unless youve skipped every conversation and not listened to anything in the game.. the main theme in ME3 seems to be sacrifice...

time and time again it comes up... your friends giving up their lives.. and sometimes shepard sacrificing his friends for the objective... ruthless calculus.. they get things done...

i think destroyers arent just destroying for themselves or this cycle.. its for all cycles..
I FIGHT FOR THE PYJACKS...

[justafan]

OperatingWookie wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

You live with it. You can't erase what you've done. No holy man or court of law can remove it. It simply is.

The Geth can be destroyed above Rannoch however.

It's wrong though. It's unforgiveable, a compromise of who you are.

"I won't let fear compromise who I am." That held up real well, didn't it?

Everyone's a little bit renegade sometimes.  It doesn't mean you committed a hate crime though.

You can go all Spock and say "The needs of the many...", or maybe it is unforgiveable, but I don't think any of the options were forgiveable, Destroy is simply the least wicked.  No good deed goes unpunished, you saved the galaxy, but at a terrible price. Acknowledge it, honor their sacrifice, but continue on knowing the galaxy is better off because of your decision.

Modifié par justafan, 22 avril 2013 - 11:51 .

[Weltea]

You headcanon that scientists eventually bring the Geth (and EDI if you want,I guess) back online. OR that EDI made a backup of herself and the Geth,similar to Shepard survive despite their tech. OR maybe starbrat was lying...

Or you live with it as a necessary sacrifice to rid the Galaxy of the Reaper threat

[Mangalores]

TheWill wrote...

unless youve skipped every conversation and not listened to anything in the game.. the main theme in ME3 seems to be sacrifice...
...

Not sure that you can actually sacrifice that many without severly screwing up. I only lost Mordin essentially because I couldn't bring myself to interfer with him. Ok, Zaeed got shot, but he is not a major character. The rest went peachy.