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What are some of the biggest things you don't like about the ME trilogy?


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ME123insanity

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 What are some of the biggest things you don't like about ME, ME2, or ME3? 

For me...


There are a number of things that I like about each game more then the other, but with all things considered I guess ME1. Mostly because there were no loading screens, the way the romances worked, equipment upgrades, planet exploration with Mako

The things I don't like about ME2 the most: Annoying loading screens, scanning, no exploring with Mako, being apart of Cerberus, I missed my old Colossus heavy armor, couldn't talk to you're teammates by walking up to them and hitting A or whatever, couldn't sell things like in ME1.

The things I don't like about ME3 the most: More loading screens, couldn't talk to teammates very much in Normandy, getting chased by Reapers in the galaxy map allot, the annoying overweight system, messed up gay/lesbian romances, seems like Bioware kinda ignored Ash/Kaiden, annoying scanner in Normandy. 

ME3's ending: Imo the ending was OKAY with the EC, but still pretty crapy.

Modifié par ME123insanity, 14 mai 2013 - 06:55 .


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Revenant147

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Forced emotions
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The character creator in all three games

There's more, but it's mostly nitpicking after those three.

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Biggest things I hate about the trilogy...hmm...

- Asari being too human-like in appearance
- Humans getting authority over all races after being in the community for only a few decades
- Batarians

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The end of ME3.

The way many fans downplay the story and characters when it is the emotional ties of these 2 elements that made ME so popular. Bioware should proudly own the fact that they create such wonderful characters and have a talent to retell a story thats been told a million different ways before but they can tell it better. Maybe if the affection players feel for the characters were not always dowplayed the writers would not have been so surprised at the backlash when many fans were upset at the lack of closure.

I dislike the character creator in ME1 and the velcro walls, I dislike the leveling system of ME2 and 3 I felt like I got to customize my shepard better in ME1, I dislike the loss of renegade and paragon interrupts which were awesome in ME2 and nonexistent in ME3 except when they did exist they were stupid and not at all interesting many times the scene plays out the same way regardless of if you take the interrupt.

Did I mention the end of ME3, if not I really dislike that.

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Looks like this is going to be turned into one big rant thread and then it will be locked up.

Well, why not. We love complain.

I hate ME3 version of Edi. I don´t think I ever hated one character in games that much. Her whole character creation and story art is totally unnecessary and is the most sci-fi cliched thing ever. I mourn the fact something like that is connected to Fritz Lang Maria. The only characters in games I completely stopped talking to (dont worry I did all her "sentimental" love arc and no. Sorry)

I dislike the over sexualisation ME2 presented. Suddenly everyone wears catsuit, is flashing breast on me, or can´t pull her zipper. And here I thought Bioware wasn´t like the others.I thought they created mature fictional world without gender stereotypes...

Its hard to tell with endings. I am okay with destroy. I can even ignore some confused story arc or missing dialogue lines like Horizon - Yeah I agree, I´ll call you later.

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Ack, this is the no-spoilers forum.  Make it hard to discuss an awful lot.

Well, for one the fact that the more human-like a species is, the more likely it is to play a major role in the universe. The more exotic races, like the Hanar, Elcor and Volus tend to be pretty heavily limited in roles.

I dislike the way they dodge really important questions in entire Arcs.  Rannoch, in particular, has arc words which essentially define the themes there.  And they use space magic to avoid actually answering the question.

Modifié par Phatose, 22 avril 2013 - 01:18 .


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One thing I noticed after replaying DA:O was that the conversation options had the potential to be much more radical than in ME.

I wish I could have been a blindly loyal, almost to a point of stubborness, paragon or a completely insane and ruthless renegade. There were options in DA:O where you could out right kill a guy once he was done being useful to you and I don't recall a situation like that in ME. It was always "this guy did something bad, do you let him live (paragon) or not (renegade).

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The linearity of ME3 was a turn off. I miss the exploration of ME1, even though the missions were fairly similar (it added to the vastness of the galaxy), and the side missions/loyalty quests in ME2. Also, my biggest concern was the ubiquitous auto dialogue that was extremely prevalent in it. All the other games had dialogue wheels for almost every conversation---especially on the Normandy where you had a lot of 'investigate' options. For a game defined by choice, it seemed like there weren't really a lot of 'free' choices, but instead, a lot of cannon/very cinematically similar sequences. Voted Anderson as the human councilor? Who cares! Killed the Rachni? Oh, let's put a breeder instead! I didn't really like how the quest system was designed and how Shepard was essentially snooping around (also, it was hard to track them all and it was VERY confusing!!!!). Another thing I didn't like was how a lot of the game was focused on new comers to the trilogy: for example, Liara would always treat you like a friend, even if you imported a romance, and James was the epitome of the new-comer friendly squadmate. I didn't like of ME2 characters were shafted (but you had to pay for extra scenes like Citadel) and I seriously feel like Liara was forced onto you. I mean, she gets an extended sex scene and before the EC, you would see her face if you didn't romance a ME1 character. I liked how S/S was introduced, but I wished that we got an exclusively gay/lesbian squadmate. I hated how everything with Kaidan was thematically similar. Not to mention that 95% of the dialogue is the same for bro/femshep.

The ending was bad, but I seriously need to move on LOL.
Day one DLC was bad, a lot of DLC coding was in the game already, I wanted to kick Allers off, but her war assets kept her butt onboard.
:?

Modifié par Modius Prime, 22 avril 2013 - 04:58 .


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Cross draw holsters and poor firearm discipline. I am SO tired of a character just pulling out their sidearm and inspecting it with their finger on the trigger. First, gun stays holstered until you need it. Second, finger stays OFF the trigger until you're about to shoot.

And why the hell is Shepard unarmed in ME3 while on the Citadel? He's a fricken SPECTER. Heck, I don't leave the house without a concealed weapon. The man's been attacked multiple times on the Citadel, you'd think he'd start packing.

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Ending (starchild, rbg endings, synthesys spacemagic bs, lies about "multiplayer not required for the best ending" - literally ruined the trilogy for me, also no feeling of victory- i just wasted my time)
Lack of "suicide mission" concept in final mission (war assets wasted potential,me2 aquadmates, boss battle, etc)
Main plot was SO weak (crucible what? just...i had no words back in the days)

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EA.

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Wolfva2 wrote...

Cross draw holsters and poor firearm discipline. I am SO tired of a character just pulling out their sidearm and inspecting it with their finger on the trigger. First, gun stays holstered until you need it. Second, finger stays OFF the trigger until you're about to shoot.


And why the hell is Shepard unarmed in ME3 while on the Citadel? He's a fricken SPECTER. Heck, I don't leave the house without a concealed weapon. The man's been attacked multiple times on the Citadel, you'd think he'd start packing.


i get where you're coming from. being military myself that kind of **** just annoys me to no end. it's things a normal person, like a dev, would never notice or care about but for me it sticks out like a sore thumb.

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Am I the only one here who HATED the Mako? I would have loved more exploration in 3 but with the Hammerhead instead.

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Wolfva2 wrote...

And why the hell is Shepard unarmed in ME3 while on the Citadel? He's a fricken SPECTER. Heck, I don't leave the house without a concealed weapon. The man's been attacked multiple times on the Citadel, you'd think he'd start packing.

Shepard's internal monologue: "Hmm, on the Citadel I've run into Saren's assassins at Chora's Den, Fist's things, the Geth invasion through the Conduit, Harkin's Blue Suns, the indoctrinated Hanar, the Cerberus coup attempt, almost being shot in the back by Balak, and almost being shot in the front by Conrad's Cerberus contact... but if one more thing happens, maybe I'll perhaps consider being armed on the Citadel!"

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Everyone Is Someone wrote...

Wolfva2 wrote...

And why the hell is Shepard unarmed in ME3 while on the Citadel? He's a fricken SPECTER. Heck, I don't leave the house without a concealed weapon. The man's been attacked multiple times on the Citadel, you'd think he'd start packing.

Shepard's internal monologue: "Hmm, on the Citadel I've run into Saren's assassins at Chora's Den, Fist's things, the Geth invasion through the Conduit, Harkin's Blue Suns, the indoctrinated Hanar, the Cerberus coup attempt, almost being shot in the back by Balak, and almost being shot in the front by Conrad's Cerberus contact... but if one more thing happens, maybe I'll perhaps consider being armed on the Citadel!"


I personally liked that you got to use Shepard without the armor someplace other than the Normandy.

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Ecrulis wrote...

Am I the only one here who HATED the Mako? I would have loved more exploration in 3 but with the Hammerhead instead.


I don't hate the Mako...but I definitely prefer the Hammerhead.

However, I also preferred just having the cutscenes of being taken to a place and picked up...and not actually having to drive there yourself.

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the moronic DRM that is causing nothing post-August DLC to work offline on Xbox 360

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Everyone Is Someone wrote...

Wolfva2 wrote...

And why the hell is Shepard unarmed in ME3 while on the Citadel? He's a fricken SPECTER. Heck, I don't leave the house without a concealed weapon. The man's been attacked multiple times on the Citadel, you'd think he'd start packing.

Shepard's internal monologue: "Hmm, on the Citadel I've run into Saren's assassins at Chora's Den, Fist's things, the Geth invasion through the Conduit, Harkin's Blue Suns, the indoctrinated Hanar, the Cerberus coup attempt, almost being shot in the back by Balak, and almost being shot in the front by Conrad's Cerberus contact... but if one more thing happens, maybe I'll perhaps consider being armed on the Citadel!"


maybe shepard is a gun control advocate lol

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You mean other than the ending...LOL

I hate planet scanning
Mini games to unlock something (thankfully it was taken out of ME3)
Not able to use most squadmates from ME2, in ME3
Character creator sucks in ME1
lack of outfit options (especially squadmates) in ME2 & 3
Lack of weapon customisation in ME2
Ashley face & outfit in ME3
but the one think I hate most is, It has to eventually end!

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Miranda's rear and female busts in ME3 in general... sorry, was that too literal? (Seriously though, that is an insult to the players and characters)

And then there's the ending (since the arch villain could have stopped the harvest at any point, him arbitrarily offering to stop the harvest kills any sense of achievement).



maybe shepard is a gun control advocate lol

Gun control does not mean that all the security services (such as Spectres) are unarmed as well.

And why the hell is Shepard unarmed in ME3 while on the Citadel? He's a fricken SPECTER

Not everyone out there fantasises ("A Republican Congressman said that elementary school principals should be armed and have access to assault rifles in order to kill potential shooters.") about single-handedly massacring hordes of criminals like the Americans do. Over here, all police officers are unarmed off-duty.

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 22 avril 2013 - 10:28 .


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AlexMBrennan wrote...

Not everyone out there fantasises ("A Republican Congressman said that elementary school principals should be armed and have access to assault rifles in order to kill potential shooters.") about single-handedly massacring hordes of criminals like the Americans do. Over here, all police officers are unarmed off-duty.

Our country has some sick SOB's in it (most recently the Boston bombings). It's insane that we have to even consider measures as such, but it's all about the safety of the citizens. So hush now.

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Jonathan Sud wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Not everyone out there fantasises ("A Republican Congressman said that elementary school principals should be armed and have access to assault rifles in order to kill potential shooters.") about single-handedly massacring hordes of criminals like the Americans do. Over here, all police officers are unarmed off-duty.

Our country has some sick SOB's in it (most recently the Boston bombings). It's insane that we have to even consider measures as such, but it's all about the safety of the citizens. So hush now.

I don't think the real-world gun control issue is relevant to Shepard's situation. The typical human isn't a galaxy-famous figure like Commander Shepard. Plus, you probably didn't send an asteroid into a mass relay of a system with 300,000 batarians and then hang out in an overcrowded docking bay with stressed out batarian refugees. Plus, you know, the average human doesn't rub shoulders with naturally super-tough species such as krogan and turians.

Since my last post, I've realized a) it's worth noting a biotic Shepard is never unarmed B) Shepard always has his/her omni-tool, which can be turned into a weapon at any time (as shown in Citadel's opening) and c) if Shepard can carry a pistol in her little black dress at Donovan Hock's party, it's easy to speculate she's carrying a sidearm even if she doesn't use it (again, as noted in Citadel's opening).

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The contrived focus on humanity in ME3. I liked the newcomers' struggle in ME1 and it felt realistic, but in ME3 it was just strange how humanity's on the way to running the show. Before Chronos Station, Shepard has no good reason to demand the other species drop what they're doing and come to Earth. And the triology make it hard to care for Earth, since we never see that place before the wall, and 2/3 of background stories have Shepard not from that planet.

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ME123insanity wrote...
 messed up gay/lesbian romances,


Messed up? chill with the hate speech.
There is nothing messed up with that.

EDIT: You spelt Lesbian wrong too. Not to worry though I fixed it for you. You're welcome.

Modifié par Jking30, 23 avril 2013 - 12:44 .


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AlexMBrennan wrote...

Not everyone out there fantasises ("A Republican Congressman said that elementary school principals should be armed and have access to assault rifles in order to kill potential shooters.") about single-handedly massacring hordes of criminals like the Americans do. Over here, all police officers are unarmed off-duty.


I often look at every second idiot and think, 'He needs more power.'
-Varric Tethras



OT: After ME1, not being able to holster or lower my weapon when I'm not using it.

Modifié par Baelrahn, 23 avril 2013 - 01:07 .