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[ToLazy4Name]

DHKany wrote...

Rants about volus 24/7 and how good they are when in reality only one of them is actually good.
Calls everybody impossible fools.


Seems legit.

Only ONE of them is good? 

Adept - Same as Volus VanGOD, except with lower damage due to lack of Biotic Charge (No detonations, no Weapon Synergy bonus, no Biotic Charge damage). Is actually probably more tanky than the VanGOD, since he doesn't have to worry about the risk of Biotic Charge. 

Engineer - Can debuff for up to 45% extra damage, and can detonate Tech Combos with PM, and can blow up RM for a huge radius and high damage attack that can finish off bosses and destroy mooks. 

Mercenary - Admittedly the weakest of the Volus, but he turns Geth into a bunch've retards staring at a shiny object, and can distract any enemy that isn't a melee unit. 

VanGOD - Already discussed this in depth. 

[Zyzimorph]

ToLazy4Name wrote...

Zyzimorph wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

cowwy wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

cowwy wrote...

Ok I can see what you're saying but I wouldn't agree that the Phoenix is crippled on maps like Condor, they don't help him at all but they don't gimp him completely. But honestly Smash is still rather underrated and does a very large amount of damage when specced properly. And to be clear the PV is tied with the Volus for my least favorite Vanguard but at least the PV has some kind of power synergy.

I wouldn't say it takes him out of the fight, but Condor is certainly much riskier than Glacier is. If you die then it doesn't really matter how much damage Smash could have done, and Condor makes it much easier for you to die.

The main reason I put the Volus ahead of the Phoenix is because of Shield Boost bringing some utility that none of the other Vanguards have. If you don't go for it(as you said you think it's more trouble than it's worth) then I would agree on Volus being worse than the Phoenix.

The problem though is that Shield Boost is a redundant power when you have Biotic Charge, especially with the now awesome Bonus Power. Sure it gives DR and Invincibility Frames but honestly I'll take a weak offensive power over a support power in this game because the game has no purpose for support powers.

It's not like an MMO where healers and tanks are integral parts of gameplay, ME3 multiplayer only needs DPS, and to be fair the Phoenix's heavy melee is actually pretty decent, and while a full melee build isn't the best option the Power Synergy evo helps the Phoenix to get even more mileage out of his Smash while giving him a slight amount of AoE damage.

Also did cloak get a stealth buff while I wasn't watching? Last time I checked enemies completely ignored "invisibility".

Shield Boost isn't a Support Power. It gives the Volus 1.5 seconds of COMPLETE invulneraility, and 50% DR. Unless it's a Hack/Escort, Shield Boost is mainly meant for the Volus. 

Shield boost is clearly a boss killer

You're being an idiot. 

@Cowwy: If any power that doesn't do damage is a support power, then is Hunter Mode a support power? Is Biotic Focus? Is Barrier? Repair Matrix? 

First off barrier does damage lol

Why don't you listen to people's opinions, respect their preferences and stop trying to tell them what is better than something else? you're not gonna change their minds by calling everyone ignorant and teling them they can't "master" a volus.

[DHKany]

Adept has absolutely NO synergy whatsoever, with stasis's utility being limited.
Engineer is good. Very good even, the only good volus.
Mercenary is godawful Terribad. Doesn't matter if geth are distracted, I'd rather have pure killing power anyday of the week.
Protector has been discussed already in this thread, yes indeed and the verdict is that he is BARELY better than the Phoenix if at all.

[DHKany]

LegionofRannoch wrote...

DHKany wrote...

Rants about volus 24/7 and how good they are when in reality only one of them is actually good.
Calls everybody impossible fools.


Seems legit.

you fool, we should eat you!

where is dat guy

[Zyzimorph]

DHKany wrote...

Adept has absolutely NO synergy whatsoever, with stasis's utility being limited.
Engineer is good. Very good even, the only good volus.
Mercenary is godawful Terribad. Doesn't matter if geth are distracted, I'd rather have pure killing power anyday of the week.
Protector has been discussed already in this thread, yes indeed and the verdict is that he is BARELY better than the Phoenix if at all.

i've seen things done with a phoenix that no Volus vanguard could ever do.

just saying

[ToLazy4Name]

Zyzimorph wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

Zyzimorph wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

cowwy wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

cowwy wrote...

Ok I can see what you're saying but I wouldn't agree that the Phoenix is crippled on maps like Condor, they don't help him at all but they don't gimp him completely. But honestly Smash is still rather underrated and does a very large amount of damage when specced properly. And to be clear the PV is tied with the Volus for my least favorite Vanguard but at least the PV has some kind of power synergy.

I wouldn't say it takes him out of the fight, but Condor is certainly much riskier than Glacier is. If you die then it doesn't really matter how much damage Smash could have done, and Condor makes it much easier for you to die.

The main reason I put the Volus ahead of the Phoenix is because of Shield Boost bringing some utility that none of the other Vanguards have. If you don't go for it(as you said you think it's more trouble than it's worth) then I would agree on Volus being worse than the Phoenix.

The problem though is that Shield Boost is a redundant power when you have Biotic Charge, especially with the now awesome Bonus Power. Sure it gives DR and Invincibility Frames but honestly I'll take a weak offensive power over a support power in this game because the game has no purpose for support powers.

It's not like an MMO where healers and tanks are integral parts of gameplay, ME3 multiplayer only needs DPS, and to be fair the Phoenix's heavy melee is actually pretty decent, and while a full melee build isn't the best option the Power Synergy evo helps the Phoenix to get even more mileage out of his Smash while giving him a slight amount of AoE damage.

Also did cloak get a stealth buff while I wasn't watching? Last time I checked enemies completely ignored "invisibility".

Shield Boost isn't a Support Power. It gives the Volus 1.5 seconds of COMPLETE invulneraility, and 50% DR. Unless it's a Hack/Escort, Shield Boost is mainly meant for the Volus. 

Shield boost is clearly a boss killer

You're being an idiot. 

@Cowwy: If any power that doesn't do damage is a support power, then is Hunter Mode a support power? Is Biotic Focus? Is Barrier? Repair Matrix? 

First off barrier does damage lol

Why don't you listen to people's opinions, respect their preferences and stop trying to tell them what is better than something else? you're not gonna change their minds by calling everyone ignorant and teling them they can't "master" a volus.

I haven't called Cowwy ignorant, nor have I told him to go play the Volus moar. I respect preferences, but I enjoy laying out all the facts so it might change someone's preference. The only person I won't try to convince are people who won't play him due to certain little nitpicks, like people who don't like the diminutive view. Someone actually mentioned that near the end of page 6, and I left him alone. 

[Zyzimorph]

ToLazy4Name wrote...

Zyzimorph wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

Zyzimorph wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

cowwy wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

cowwy wrote...

Ok I can see what you're saying but I wouldn't agree that the Phoenix is crippled on maps like Condor, they don't help him at all but they don't gimp him completely. But honestly Smash is still rather underrated and does a very large amount of damage when specced properly. And to be clear the PV is tied with the Volus for my least favorite Vanguard but at least the PV has some kind of power synergy.

I wouldn't say it takes him out of the fight, but Condor is certainly much riskier than Glacier is. If you die then it doesn't really matter how much damage Smash could have done, and Condor makes it much easier for you to die.

The main reason I put the Volus ahead of the Phoenix is because of Shield Boost bringing some utility that none of the other Vanguards have. If you don't go for it(as you said you think it's more trouble than it's worth) then I would agree on Volus being worse than the Phoenix.

The problem though is that Shield Boost is a redundant power when you have Biotic Charge, especially with the now awesome Bonus Power. Sure it gives DR and Invincibility Frames but honestly I'll take a weak offensive power over a support power in this game because the game has no purpose for support powers.

It's not like an MMO where healers and tanks are integral parts of gameplay, ME3 multiplayer only needs DPS, and to be fair the Phoenix's heavy melee is actually pretty decent, and while a full melee build isn't the best option the Power Synergy evo helps the Phoenix to get even more mileage out of his Smash while giving him a slight amount of AoE damage.

Also did cloak get a stealth buff while I wasn't watching? Last time I checked enemies completely ignored "invisibility".

Shield Boost isn't a Support Power. It gives the Volus 1.5 seconds of COMPLETE invulneraility, and 50% DR. Unless it's a Hack/Escort, Shield Boost is mainly meant for the Volus. 

Shield boost is clearly a boss killer

You're being an idiot. 

@Cowwy: If any power that doesn't do damage is a support power, then is Hunter Mode a support power? Is Biotic Focus? Is Barrier? Repair Matrix? 

First off barrier does damage lol

Why don't you listen to people's opinions, respect their preferences and stop trying to tell them what is better than something else? you're not gonna change their minds by calling everyone ignorant and teling them they can't "master" a volus.

I haven't called Cowwy ignorant, nor have I told him to go play the Volus moar. I respect preferences, but I enjoy laying out all the facts so it might change someone's preference. The only person I won't try to convince are people who won't play him due to certain little nitpicks, like people who don't like the diminutive view. Someone actually mentioned that near the end of page 6, and I left him alone. 

little nitpicks bother people so they won't play the class simple enough

[Slayer299]

I'd have to say its the charge-less/poison-less Cabal, followed by the Ex-Cerberus Vang.

With PS so iff on actually working correctly putting points into is makes little sense. The Ex-C-V doesn't do anything that well that it stands out against any of the other (non-Cabal) Vanguards or better and Smash is such a long wind-up to actually firing off its more of a liability than a weapon at times.

I'll take the AsariGuard or the Havoc over either of those 2 any day

[ToLazy4Name]

DHKany wrote...

Adept has absolutely NO synergy whatsoever, with stasis's utility being limited.
Engineer is good. Very good even, the only good volus.
Mercenary is godawful Terribad. Doesn't matter if geth are distracted, I'd rather have pure killing power anyday of the week.
Protector has been discussed already in this thread, yes indeed and the verdict is that he is BARELY better than the Phoenix if at all.

The "BARELY" part is someone's preference. Mine differs, for perfectly valid reasons that have been stated. 

Also, the Adept shouldn't be using Stasis, or should only have it at a low level for Phantoms, or maxed out if they feel good enough to skip Fitness entirely. I won't argue about the Mercenary, because he's admittedly bad. 

[Zyzimorph]

ToLazy4Name wrote...

DHKany wrote...

Adept has absolutely NO synergy whatsoever, with stasis's utility being limited.
Engineer is good. Very good even, the only good volus.
Mercenary is godawful Terribad. Doesn't matter if geth are distracted, I'd rather have pure killing power anyday of the week.
Protector has been discussed already in this thread, yes indeed and the verdict is that he is BARELY better than the Phoenix if at all.

The "BARELY" part is someone's preference. Mine differs, for perfectly valid reasons that have been stated. 

Also, the Adept shouldn't be using Stasis, or should only have it at a low level for Phantoms, or maxed out if they feel good enough to skip Fitness entirely. I won't argue about the Mercenary, because he's admittedly bad. 

fitness on a volus

lolwut

[ToLazy4Name]

Zyzimorph wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

Zyzimorph wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

Zyzimorph wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

cowwy wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

cowwy wrote...

Ok I can see what you're saying but I wouldn't agree that the Phoenix is crippled on maps like Condor, they don't help him at all but they don't gimp him completely. But honestly Smash is still rather underrated and does a very large amount of damage when specced properly. And to be clear the PV is tied with the Volus for my least favorite Vanguard but at least the PV has some kind of power synergy.

I wouldn't say it takes him out of the fight, but Condor is certainly much riskier than Glacier is. If you die then it doesn't really matter how much damage Smash could have done, and Condor makes it much easier for you to die.

The main reason I put the Volus ahead of the Phoenix is because of Shield Boost bringing some utility that none of the other Vanguards have. If you don't go for it(as you said you think it's more trouble than it's worth) then I would agree on Volus being worse than the Phoenix.

The problem though is that Shield Boost is a redundant power when you have Biotic Charge, especially with the now awesome Bonus Power. Sure it gives DR and Invincibility Frames but honestly I'll take a weak offensive power over a support power in this game because the game has no purpose for support powers.

It's not like an MMO where healers and tanks are integral parts of gameplay, ME3 multiplayer only needs DPS, and to be fair the Phoenix's heavy melee is actually pretty decent, and while a full melee build isn't the best option the Power Synergy evo helps the Phoenix to get even more mileage out of his Smash while giving him a slight amount of AoE damage.

Also did cloak get a stealth buff while I wasn't watching? Last time I checked enemies completely ignored "invisibility".

Shield Boost isn't a Support Power. It gives the Volus 1.5 seconds of COMPLETE invulneraility, and 50% DR. Unless it's a Hack/Escort, Shield Boost is mainly meant for the Volus. 

Shield boost is clearly a boss killer

You're being an idiot. 

@Cowwy: If any power that doesn't do damage is a support power, then is Hunter Mode a support power? Is Biotic Focus? Is Barrier? Repair Matrix? 

First off barrier does damage lol

Why don't you listen to people's opinions, respect their preferences and stop trying to tell them what is better than something else? you're not gonna change their minds by calling everyone ignorant and teling them they can't "master" a volus.

I haven't called Cowwy ignorant, nor have I told him to go play the Volus moar. I respect preferences, but I enjoy laying out all the facts so it might change someone's preference. The only person I won't try to convince are people who won't play him due to certain little nitpicks, like people who don't like the diminutive view. Someone actually mentioned that near the end of page 6, and I left him alone. 

little nitpicks bother people so they won't play the class simple enough

That's the thing, all the people i've argued with aren't not playing him because of nitpicks, they're genuinely calling him bad. He's not. 

[doozerdude]

Phoenix>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Novaguard

[Zyzimorph]

[quote]ToLazy4Name wrote...


[quote]ToLazy4Name wrote...

*snip*
You're being an idiot. 

@Cowwy: If any power that doesn't do damage is a support power, then is Hunter Mode a support power? Is Biotic Focus? Is Barrier? Repair Matrix? 

[/quote]

First off barrier does damage lol

Why don't you listen to people's opinions, respect their preferences and stop trying to tell them what is better than something else? you're not gonna change their minds by calling everyone ignorant and teling them they can't "master" a volus.


[/quote]

I haven't called Cowwy ignorant, nor have I told him to go play the Volus moar. I respect preferences, but I enjoy laying out all the facts so it might change someone's preference. The only person I won't try to convince are people who won't play him due to certain little nitpicks, like people who don't like the diminutive view. Someone actually mentioned that near the end of page 6, and I left him alone. 

[/quote]

little nitpicks bother people so they won't play the class simple enough
[/quote]

That's the thing, all the people i've argued with aren't not playing him because of nitpicks, they're genuinely calling him bad. He's not. 

[/quote]

just not as good as the others including the phoenix


edit: quote fail

Modifié par Zyzimorph, 23 avril 2013 - 04:04 .

[DHKany]

Ok fine then, you can't change our opinion in the same way that we can't change yours.

Jesus Christ.

[cowwy]

ToLazy4Name wrote...

cowwy wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

You're being an idiot. 

@Cowwy: If any power that doesn't do damage is a support power, then is Hunter Mode a support power? Is Biotic Focus? Is Barrier? Repair Matrix? 

They are indeed. However those you just listed have more utility, like Repair Matrix also being horribly broken and giving essentially passive movement speed buffs and free medigel, Hunter Mode giving extraordinary damage buffs, Barrier is the only one you listed there that I would say is weaker than Shield Boost as it gives mediocre DR and the detonation is about equivalent to trying to fart an enemy to death.

However all the characters that have those powers have other powers that synergize well with them or at least give them some kind of significant damage boost in their power. Geth obviously get absurd damage bonuses with geth weaponry, Repair Matrix allows the AIU to close distance very rapidly and utilize her shotgun evo in tac cloak fully, and Biotic Focus gives a movement speed buff and a melee damage buff. The Bowlus has no real synergy, he's got Charge, which can slightly boost weapon damage, Shield Boost which heals and provides DR, and Biotic Orbs which can detonate and gives a recharge buff. If Biotic Orbs primed I would classify the Volus as a top tier vanguard but he can only detonate targets primed by other teammates.

So where is the synergy or what does he bring to the table that isn't done better by another vanguard? Tanking is hands down taken by the Kroguard, who's also a better lolreegar user, damage is covered by basically anyone other than the PV and Volus, so where does that leave the Volus?

Edit: I'm genuinely interested if you have something to set the Volus apart, because as it stands he's tied for my least used Vanguard with the PV and Cabal.

He's a Kroguard with better utility. He's only got 22.5% weapon damage, but he can turn invisible, and get his Barriers back without having to charge, as well as being able to heal others during Hacks/Escorts (which, admirttedly, can lock people up if you're not careful). Also, his Biotic Charge has a better cooldown than the Krogans, and he only lags behind a bit in terms of weapon damage. 

I will grant you that the difference in weapon damage between the two characters is negligible. However the disparity in tankiness is extremely significant. There's a reason why the Kroguard is regarded as cheese, and it isn't his stellar passives. It is his ability to take constant weapons fire without even flinching. The Volus has to make sure his shield boost is up before taking any fire otherwise he's dead.

And again, if that's all that sets the Volus apart then I'll just stick with other vanguards. I can't stand using the Kroguard either so why would I use a shorter, less mobile character when I can use a different vanguard?

At least the Volus engineer has something to set him apart, he's arguably the best debuff character in the game so it's worth using as it can amplify any weapons damage, but the Vanguard has no niche.

[ToLazy4Name]

[quote]Zyzimorph wrote...

[quote]ToLazy4Name wrote...


[quote]ToLazy4Name wrote...

*snip*
You're being an idiot. 

@Cowwy: If any power that doesn't do damage is a support power, then is Hunter Mode a support power? Is Biotic Focus? Is Barrier? Repair Matrix? 

[/quote]

First off barrier does damage lol

Why don't you listen to people's opinions, respect their preferences and stop trying to tell them what is better than something else? you're not gonna change their minds by calling everyone ignorant and teling them they can't "master" a volus.


[/quote]

I haven't called Cowwy ignorant, nor have I told him to go play the Volus moar. I respect preferences, but I enjoy laying out all the facts so it might change someone's preference. The only person I won't try to convince are people who won't play him due to certain little nitpicks, like people who don't like the diminutive view. Someone actually mentioned that near the end of page 6, and I left him alone. 

[/quote]

little nitpicks bother people so they won't play the class simple enough
[/quote]

That's the thing, all the people i've argued with aren't not playing him because of nitpicks, they're genuinely calling him bad. He's not. 

[/quote]

just not as good as the others including the phoenix
[/quote]

And I have attempted to persuade them. If they don't agree, fine. The same applies to you, but judging from how immature you've acted thus far, i'll continue to believe you're just ignorant of how to play the Volus. 

[Zyzimorph]

@tl4n

i never said i didn't like him i just said that he wasn't as good as the others

also i know you're dirty secret

[ToLazy4Name]

Zyzimorph wrote...

@tl4n

i never said i didn't like him i just said that he wasn't as good as the others

also i know you're dirty secret

1. Then why are you talking about nitpicks? 

2. Pray tell, what is my dirty secret?

[ToLazy4Name]

cowwy wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

cowwy wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

You're being an idiot. 

@Cowwy: If any power that doesn't do damage is a support power, then is Hunter Mode a support power? Is Biotic Focus? Is Barrier? Repair Matrix? 

They are indeed. However those you just listed have more utility, like Repair Matrix also being horribly broken and giving essentially passive movement speed buffs and free medigel, Hunter Mode giving extraordinary damage buffs, Barrier is the only one you listed there that I would say is weaker than Shield Boost as it gives mediocre DR and the detonation is about equivalent to trying to fart an enemy to death.

However all the characters that have those powers have other powers that synergize well with them or at least give them some kind of significant damage boost in their power. Geth obviously get absurd damage bonuses with geth weaponry, Repair Matrix allows the AIU to close distance very rapidly and utilize her shotgun evo in tac cloak fully, and Biotic Focus gives a movement speed buff and a melee damage buff. The Bowlus has no real synergy, he's got Charge, which can slightly boost weapon damage, Shield Boost which heals and provides DR, and Biotic Orbs which can detonate and gives a recharge buff. If Biotic Orbs primed I would classify the Volus as a top tier vanguard but he can only detonate targets primed by other teammates.

So where is the synergy or what does he bring to the table that isn't done better by another vanguard? Tanking is hands down taken by the Kroguard, who's also a better lolreegar user, damage is covered by basically anyone other than the PV and Volus, so where does that leave the Volus?

Edit: I'm genuinely interested if you have something to set the Volus apart, because as it stands he's tied for my least used Vanguard with the PV and Cabal.

He's a Kroguard with better utility. He's only got 22.5% weapon damage, but he can turn invisible, and get his Barriers back without having to charge, as well as being able to heal others during Hacks/Escorts (which, admirttedly, can lock people up if you're not careful). Also, his Biotic Charge has a better cooldown than the Krogans, and he only lags behind a bit in terms of weapon damage. 

I will grant you that the difference in weapon damage between the two characters is negligible. However the disparity in tankiness is extremely significant. There's a reason why the Kroguard is regarded as cheese, and it isn't his stellar passives. It is his ability to take constant weapons fire without even flinching. The Volus has to make sure his shield boost is up before taking any fire otherwise he's dead.

And again, if that's all that sets the Volus apart then I'll just stick with other vanguards. I can't stand using the Kroguard either so why would I use a shorter, less mobile character when I can use a different vanguard?

At least the Volus engineer has something to set him apart, he's arguably the best debuff character in the game so it's worth using as it can amplify any weapons damage, but the Vanguard has no niche.

1. I still think the Volus is on par with the Kroguard for tankiness. He doesn't have to have Shield Boost up so long as he has both Cloak and Biotic Charge available. 

2. Why didn't you say that to begin with? If you'd have said "I don't like the Kroguard, and the Volus is similar to the Kroguard, so I don't like the Volus" at the start of this, I wouldn't have started arguing. That's a perfectly fine reason to not play him. 

[ToLazy4Name]

MasterReefa wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

Zyzimorph wrote...

@tl4n

i never said i didn't like him i just said that he wasn't as good as the others

also i know you're dirty secret

1. Then why are you talking about nitpicks? 

2. Pray tell, what is my dirty secret?

6/6/6/6/6

At one point, yes. I'm sure all of us have. Then, I promoted because I felt like a noodle with a maxed out character. 

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I think I'm done with "Worst Kit of class" threads.

I spent more energy than I should have defending the Shadow in the other one, and there's no point. If someone is frustrated because they're having trouble getting the Shadow to work, that's when I'll jump in. I love her, and I play her really well. I can help someone figure out how to get over the tricker side of using her. She gets her job done (and looks good doing it.)

Players play Kits they love differently than others, and will find the magic in them. No math can do that. Some kits will kill faster, but if I ever get to the point that I'm pissed because a PuG plays a kit that kills slower, I think it will be time for me to stop playing the game.

I love the way kits work together in weird, fun ways. Wanna shield boost a Slayer while he PDs everything to death? DO IT! LOVE IT! WHY NOT!?? How is that any different from a biotic priming everything while another detonates?

Think you've found it all? You haven't. No one has. We're all learning new things about his game that we didn't know before. People are coming up with weird new builds all the time. Heck, Reckoning Kits are only a couple of months old. There are still lots of ideas to come from kits, and ways to combine their powers and strengths.

Worst what? Why? Why worst?

I don't know. Seems pointless. I like the Pheonix, and I love all the Volus (just wish the SHIELD BOOST WAS ALWAYS ON THE SAME BUTTON) and I'm finding new fun in all the kits I try, especially the ones I dismissed back before the Challenge system, and joining BSN.

Anyway, <3 you guys. I'm out.

[ToLazy4Name]

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

I think I'm done with "Worst Kit of class" threads.

I spent more energy than I should have defending the Shadow in the other one, and there's no point. If someone is frustrated because they're having trouble getting the Shadow to work, that's when I'll jump in. I love her, and I play her really well. I can help someone figure out how to get over the tricker side of using her. She gets her job done (and looks good doing it.)

Players play Kits they love differently than others, and will find the magic in them. No math can do that. Some kits will kill faster, but if I ever get to the point that I'm pissed because a PuG plays a kit that kills slower, I think it will be time for me to stop playing the game.

I love the way kits work together in weird, fun ways. Wanna shield boost a Slayer while he PDs everything to death? DO IT! LOVE IT! WHY NOT!?? How is that any different from a biotic priming everything while another detonates?

Think you've found it all? You haven't. No one has. We're all learning new things about his game that we didn't know before. People are coming up with weird new builds all the time. Heck, Reckoning Kits are only a couple of months old. There are still lots of ideas to come from kits, and ways to combine their powers and strengths.

Worst what? Why? Why worst?

I don't know. Seems pointless. I like the Pheonix, and I love all the Volus (just wish the SHIELD BOOST WAS ALWAYS ON THE SAME BUTTON) and I'm finding new fun in all the kits I try, especially the ones I dismissed back before the Challenge system, and joining BSN.

Anyway, <3 you guys. I'm out.

And with this, i'm done. Goodbye thread. It was a fun nearly 8 pages.

[Kalas Magnus]

Cabal