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[GodLovesATrier]

Nice video, very professional looking, inspired me to go out and have a go with the BPP.

One thing in the video - when talking about concussive shot Stardusk states that rank 5 only does double damage to frozen targets, I've read elsewhere that it also does double to chilled. Here's a link

Modifié par Reviving, 23 avril 2013 - 01:06 .

[Creature0fHabit]

You have given me a better build with the BBP and I'm re-specking asap. Thanks for this!

[Arctican]

I would like to point out that the Shatter evolution on Concussive Shot does apply to chilled targets ever since patch 1.04 or around the time that Retaliation came out. Not saying you should choose it unless you're going for another build, but it's far from useless.

[Stardusk]

Arctican wrote...

I would like to point out that the Shatter evolution on Concussive Shot does apply to chilled targets ever since patch 1.04 or around the time that Retaliation came out. Not saying you should choose it unless you're going for another build, but it's far from useless.

Fair enough. I was not aware, though I still would not change the build because it would have to centre round cryo ammo...meh.

[Stardusk]

Deerber wrote...

No headshot on marksman? WHAT IS THIS BLASPHEMY!??
Other than that... Dat voice. Nice guide :happy:

Simple reason, almost 3 seconds more of 50% ROF, that means more AP shots, headshots not worth it.

[sy7ar]

Tried it, not impressed, could be not using lvl IV, still, Hurricane so much better. I mean, any gun can become good on Turian Soldier, doesn't make BPP any better than other URs.

[han shot shepard]

Played 4 games with it... I have BPP lev IV. All Gold. Mixed it up between using a Cyc. IV and Barrage or Stronghold and Stabil. Mod. III. AFter first game swapped out the Barrel for stability mod on the gun itself. I did get insta killed at least once a match (i'm a scrub)

Just like the video, all the yellow things dead.

who needs weekend challenges, keep posting fun and interesting builds for the community to try!! thx

[Deerber]

Stardusk wrote...

Deerber wrote...

No headshot on marksman? WHAT IS THIS BLASPHEMY!??
Other than that... Dat voice. Nice guide :happy:

Simple reason, almost 3 seconds more of 50% ROF, that means more AP shots, headshots not worth it.

Headshot evolution of marksman is multiplicative of everything. Even of debuffs and headshot multipliers. You know that, right?

[Caineghis2500]

really?

[Max Dmian]

Yes, it is.
Not on bosses though, afaik.

Modifié par Max Dmian, 23 avril 2013 - 05:26 .

[Stardusk]

Deerber wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Deerber wrote...

No headshot on marksman? WHAT IS THIS BLASPHEMY!??
Other than that... Dat voice. Nice guide :happy:

Simple reason, almost 3 seconds more of 50% ROF, that means more AP shots, headshots not worth it.

Headshot evolution of marksman is multiplicative of everything. Even of debuffs and headshot multipliers. You know that, right?

But not on bosses so pretty much a waste; when you can have almost 3 sec more of DPS and AP shots on bosses, which are the tought enemies.

[Stardusk]

sy7ar wrote...

Tried it, not impressed, could be not using lvl IV, still, Hurricane so much better. I mean, any gun can become good on Turian Soldier, doesn't make BPP any better than other URs.

The BPP is better at killing armor than the Hurricane is, if you watched the guide I state that it is not just a case of any gun being good on the Turian Soldier. It is unique on him.

[Caineghis2500]

Shooting the BBP faster? longer? Why not?

[IamZAE]

caineghis2500 wrote...

Shooting the BBP faster? longer? Why not?

because she said she wants it shot slower and shorter

[DragonRacer]

This is certainly making the rounds. Ran into two Turian Soldiers using BPPs in Gold PUGs earlier today. Had not usually seen that combo before.

[Caineghis2500]

DragonRacer wrote...

This is certainly making the rounds. Ran into two Turian Soldiers using BPPs in Gold PUGs earlier today. Had not usually seen that combo before.

BTW I posted the link of the ME 3 IN-DEPTH playlist on your library thread. Please add it to the list

Modifié par caineghis2500, 23 avril 2013 - 09:42 .

[Stardusk]

DragonRacer wrote...

This is certainly making the rounds. Ran into two Turian Soldiers using BPPs in Gold PUGs earlier today. Had not usually seen that combo before.

You think? That would be kind of cool.

[Caineghis2500]

Stardusk wrote...

DragonRacer wrote...

This is certainly making the rounds. Ran into two Turian Soldiers using BPPs in Gold PUGs earlier today. Had not usually seen that combo before.

You think? That would be kind of cool.

You getting on again today?

Modifié par caineghis2500, 23 avril 2013 - 09:44 .

[Learn To Love Yourself]

Deerber wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Deerber wrote...

No headshot on marksman? WHAT IS THIS BLASPHEMY!??
Other than that... Dat voice. Nice guide :happy:

Simple reason, almost 3 seconds more of 50% ROF, that means more AP shots, headshots not worth it.

Headshot evolution of marksman is multiplicative of everything. Even of debuffs and headshot multipliers. You know that, right?

True, but just on mooks, and they die quickly without it, too.  I've always spec'd into it, but I recently tried Duration, and it's actually pretty nice.  I don't even notice them dying more slowly.  However, I didn't test extensively, and it probably is more noticeable on Dragoons, Pyros & Phantoms maybe?

Regarding the BPP vs Hurricane.  Everything lies in the AP shot.  I believe its bonus to armor is multiplicative (*5 charged shot and 250% bonus to Armor = *12.5 multiplicative damage to armor, which also includes boss headshots).  You can really see it shine when you get headshots on Banshees, Praetorians, Brutes, & Scions.

If I were to carry one SMG alone, I'd probably still prefer the Hurricane, but I have been enjoying using the BPP + Eagle on the TSo lately.  Eagle for mooks & BPP for bosses.

[Stardusk]

caineghis2500 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

DragonRacer wrote...

This is certainly making the rounds. Ran into two Turian Soldiers using BPPs in Gold PUGs earlier today. Had not usually seen that combo before.

You think? That would be kind of cool.

You getting on again today?

It's late. Maybe.

[Stardusk]

Jack Crapper wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Deerber wrote...

No headshot on marksman? WHAT IS THIS BLASPHEMY!??
Other than that... Dat voice. Nice guide :happy:

Simple reason, almost 3 seconds more of 50% ROF, that means more AP shots, headshots not worth it.

Headshot evolution of marksman is multiplicative of everything. Even of debuffs and headshot multipliers. You know that, right?

True, but just on mooks, and they die quickly without it, too.  I've always spec'd into it, but I recently tried Duration, and it's actually pretty nice.  I don't even notice them dying more slowly.  However, I didn't test extensively, and it probably is more noticeable on Dragoons, Pyros & Phantoms maybe?

Regarding the BPP vs Hurricane.  Everything lies in the AP shot.  I believe its bonus to armor is multiplicative (*5 charged shot and 250% bonus to Armor = *12.5 multiplicative damage to armor, which also includes boss headshots).  You can really see it shine when you get headshots on Banshees, Praetorians, Brutes, & Scions.

If I were to carry one SMG alone, I'd probably still prefer the Hurricane, but I have been enjoying using the BPP + Eagle on the TSo lately.  Eagle for mooks & BPP for bosses.

I have tested it; you don't notice a difference; the AP shot damage is so massive it is irrelevant. On the other hand ca. 3 extra seconds of Marksman allow for AP shots, i.e. more DPS.

[BridgeBurner]

You neglected to mention if you play on PC, stability is a waste of time, even semi-decent mouse control gets you all the stability you ever need.

[Stardusk]

Annomander wrote...

You neglected to mention if you play on PC, stability is a waste of time, even semi-decent mouse control gets you all the stability you ever need.

Right. You should make a guide about this.

[BridgeBurner]

Stardusk wrote...

Annomander wrote...

You neglected to mention if you play on PC, stability is a waste of time, even semi-decent mouse control gets you all the stability you ever need.

Right. You should make a guide about this.

Step 1: move your mouse downwards while firing.

There is no second step.

Modifié par Annomander, 23 avril 2013 - 10:16 .