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Costin_Razvan wrote...
Oghren, Sten, Leliana, Zevran, Wynne and even Loghain show emotion.
Oghren is sad about his wife and even still loves her till the anvil, but then he will kill her, because he knows it might be the best thing to do.
Sten kills a family in cold blood with his bare hands, but realizes perfectly well what he has done, he allow himself to be captured as a result, and does regret what he did.
Leliana cares about every life, yet she still will stand by your side even if you do horrible crimes( hardened especially ) because she knows how important the blight is, ( well save destroying the urn, but that is just being a dick and nothing else )
Zevran is an assasin, a cold blooded one, yet he still won't approve if you leave Vaughn alive or try and slaughter the Dalish.
Wynne will only go against you if you destroy the urn, or well flat out try and destroy the Circle without even trying to find the whole story. She will stand by you even when you do terrible things, because she knows what will happen if the darkspawn are not stopped at all costs.
Loghain regrets what he did/allowed Howe to do after Ostagar, he will state it flatly that he should be the one to die and not you against the Archdemon, and he will follow your commands, even if he doesn't like them at all.
What does Alistair do? The only thing he shows is his own SELFISH needs. He lies to you because he is afraid, even though the reason Loghain even sends assassins after you is because of HIM. He says he doesn't want the throne at all, and when you say you support Anora he is very relieved in fact.
However when the moment comes to make decision that IS NOT being a dick, a decision every single of your other companions doesn't disagree with, he throws a hissy fit because you WANT TO SPARE THE LIFE OF A MAN, even though he is ALWAYS pissed if you suggest killing people in cold blood. He doesn't even realize what he is doing by killing Loghain, he doesn't realize he is taking the life of a man.
That is why I hate Alistair, every other companion shows they can care more then their own selfish needs, yet Alistair does not,
That being said I never killed him, because I feel a sense of loyalty to even the most backstabing selfish dicks, simply because they followed me for some time.
Even though I actually agree with you to some extend, I still think it is not as simple. And I don't feel as drastic about it.
All others don't have such a personal motivation to see Loghain pay for his crimes as Alistair does, and all others are far more experienced and hardened than Alistair himself, even Leliana. They all have a more or less troubled history, and understand that such decision sometimes must be made in order to stop a greater evil.
But, then again.... there is a lot of tension between some of the partymembers and Loghain nevertheless, especially between him and Wynne and Leliana.
Alistair was only the most drastic in saying that he quits.
Alistair presumably is the youngest in the group and has the greatest grudge against Loghain, because he took practically everything from him, killled the whole Grey Warden - order in one clean swipe, and that just for a paranoid struggle for power. Plus he nearly killed the only other kind of family he ever had, besides the Grey Wardens, Arl Eamon, and also went after him and the PC, openly trying to get them assassinated.
So yeah... I too think he should have pulled himself together for the greater good, he should have put his naive and proud view away and realize what a powerful ally Loghain can be, and how his experience could benefit the Grey Wardens. But I also very much understand his reaction, because we are all humans, and we do not act very logically all the time, especially not in such extreme emotional situations. And he must have been on edge, being one of the only two remaining Grey Wardens, having the weight of saving the world on his shoulders, the upcoming Blight, the loss of his equivalent of a family, how he is pushed around by politics...
As much as I find his reaction illogical and proud, I still can relate to it. Heh... I have seen far greater outbursts about far more trivial matters than Alistair's. In real life. At least he has a proper motiviation and reason about being upset.
You know what I call a hissy fit? Teenagers who threaten to kill themselves because their favourite boyband splits up. Parents who divorce and claw at each other without ANY consideration for their children.
Stomping and crying about because you can't get item xy. Making countless forumthreads about how awful it is that the new DLC is not coming out on time.
Being upset that your friend lets the man ive who killled your family and almost assassinated you just to get to the throne... not so much. Though in the greater context with the Blight and such, it is still the wrong reaction.
About Alistair being emo. Hah. Hilarious. Oh how I love the trend of pigeonholing people...
Modifié par Yenaquai, 17 janvier 2010 - 10:05 .
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I'm guessing that ends pretty badly. I doubt I'll play through again without hardening Alistair, either. I was initially concerned that doing so would make him callous, but it's more like letting him know it's okay to stand up for himself, which I doubt Eamon or the chantry did. Quite the opposite, I imagine.
