xlegionx wrote...
Seival wrote...
xlegionx wrote...
Oh, a Seival thread. This should be interesting.
Synthesis is not inevitable. Why would the Leviathans seek to impose Synthesis on the galaxy? With such few numbers of their own, could they even if they wanted to? Is the Citadel even capable of activating Synthesis in its damaged/repaired state? there are too many ifs with that situation that you are filling in with your own un-proved assumptions to figure out a plausible answer.
Leviathans obviously have stable population. Why do I think so? They survived all those countless Cycles, which is impossible without stable population. Leviathan said they controlled some lesser races for their own needs during all those Cycles, which is also impossible without stable population. Once Reaper threat is over - Leviathans will recover to full strength fast enough.
Leviathan said they observe each Cycle very carefully. They will learn everything about Synthesis and Crucible's purpose. It's even quite possible that Crucible was Leviathans' idea. They could invent it (who else could?) and built the first one using thralls. Makes sense... Anyway, we can state that Leviathans already know (or about to know) Synthesis concept, and the way to achieve it.
Destroy slides show us peace and rebuilt Citadel - both impossible in universe full of derelict Reapers and primitive survivors. Only Leviathans can help galactic civilization. As before, Leviathans will remain above lesser races' concerns. They will rule the galaxy, and no one will even notice that. And Synthesis beginning will be just a matter of time. It is inevitable, even in case of Destroy.
...I believe that was initial plan - to make a sequel based on Synthesized universe. You think pro-Synthesis ending bias was just for show? Inevitable Synthesis is the only way to make a sequel without canonizing one of ways to stop the Reapers. No inevitable Synthesis = no successful sequel, I'm afraid. If BioWare is not going to make Synthesis inevitable, then we will get prequel or "mediquel" no matter what the most fans asked for.
I doubt that Bioware is never doing a sequel, but they would never retcon to force the least-liked option of the core fanbase onto the entire game. The Citadel DLC is proof enough that they would now prefer to avoid rocking the boat. And even then, I'm sure they could make an effective sequel without canonizing an abomination
As it has been stated before in this thread, the derelict Reapers in Destroy would not be an issue. Pieces of Sovereign are all around the Citadel, yet there are not throngs of indoctrinated agents, just a select few. The only reason the derelict Reaper in ME2 indoctrinated the scientists was because its mass effect core was still in contact, therefore it wasn't truly dead. the Reapers in Destroy are 100% destroyed, no chance for indoctrination from the wreckage.
And the survivors are not primitive, at least not with high EMS Destroy (which is probably 80-90% of all Destroy endings). In a High EMS ending, Destroy only targets Reaper Tech, so only the Reapers, the mass relay system (citadel included), the geth (reaper code), and EDI (made w/ fragments from Sovereign) are affected. THis is how Shepard is able to survive.
As for the Leviathans, they explicitly stated that the Crucible's outxome is unknown. Therefore, they do not know of Synthesis, nor have any opinions on it. And why would they want to improve other species? they already consider themselves the apex race, so they wouldn't want anyone getting too close to their mantle. even their ability to learn of it is limited, As one of the entities that knew of it (The Catalyst) is gone in Destroy) and they were only able to enter Shepard's mind when they came into direct proximity of their own body. No one else knows about Synthesis (you *could* speculate that Shepard shared information about Synthesis, but speculation is all that it is)
As for their population size, we have extremely little info about their physiology. they could live for millions of years at a time. They could be like Fallout's Super Mutants and be biologically immortal, immune to death by natural causes. We just don't know. You are making way too many guesses, but treating them as fact to support your opinions
Synthesis is less-liked choice, but not less-liked long-term outcome.
Nazara remains did their work quite well, don't you worry. We know that only very small parts can be shielded. And you can't shield even those from power-hungry individuals who will do everything to get a part of Reaper tech to study it make something based on it.
In ME2 mass effect core only kept derelict Reaper on the orbit. Indoctrination abilities do not depend on mass effect core. Indoctrination comes from organic part of a Reaper. Back to Nazara remains: small human-sized part of it had to be sealed to prevent indoctrination, remember Leviathan DLC? There are no power sources in these tiny parts. Also, if you remember Destroy epilogue well, then you know that Reaper ships were mostly intact after red explosion. Only husks were vaporized.
Survivors are primitive compared to Leviathans, not in general. Primitive enough to start contacting with derelict Reapers and become insane soon after that.
Do you remember how the Leviathan replied about the Crucible? It was clear it doesn't tell everything. Primitive races couldn't invent Crucible without full understanding of Reaper tech. I'm sure that Crucible is Leviathan's idea.
A lot of Fragments were delivered on Earth as a part of war asset, so Leviathans could help in the final battle. Shepard became Leviathans' thrall, remember? Leviathans can see and hear everything Shepard sees and hears. Even dialogue with the Catalyst. And even if Shepard didn't contact Leviathans, they have everything to discover Synthesis possibility. No one can interrupt them after the Reapers were stopped. They will keep searching for the solution.
Without stable population Leviathans couldn't survive for so long.
Modifié par Seival, 27 avril 2013 - 12:32 .
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Well played good sir.
