Seival wrote...
Redbelle wrote...
It's not about killing pride. It's about rational thought process starting at a point and extrapolating what is and is not possible within the confines of it's environment. And above all, explaining how you came by the conclusion/s. And citing the limters needed to be present to make that conclusion stand up. E.g. The Cat is lying, as a narrative conclusion, vs, The Cat is badly written and executed, as a game development conclusion.
I honestly have no idea why you seem so think that the human factor is a barrier to rational thought. When the one who claims rational thought is still subject to the human condition, and seem's to exhibit pride, in his lack of pride, and then goes on to boast about it for over a year. Add a superiority complex on top of that, which amount's to 'more people ought to try and be more like me'. And we have a truely complicated mess of both logic, and self identity on our hands.
It's all about killing pride. Pride forces people to think of themselves as about someone special. Forces people to think they are better writers and could write a better ending for a story, for example. Forces people to think they are a VIPs in a restaurant, where storyteller is a waitress who should obey all your commands.
Pride forces people to think of themselves as about center of the universe. Through the pride you can't see the story's meaning and sense its artistic integrity, because story doesn't make you to feel like a hero.
Pride comes from uncontrolled childish emotions, and so it's indeed a barrier to rational thought, barrier to wisdom. An AI with no "childish emotions code" will never have such barriers. While human has to kill his pride again and again in order to become and remain wise.
Then you have fundamentally misunderstood the concept of pride. You say pride is a barrier. Well what about pride to have played to the trilogy? What about pride in building the relationship's with your other NPC's?
Pride can serve as an enabler, a way to keep you going through satisfaction of your accomplishment's. You keep refering to it as solely negative without stopping to look at the flip side of the coin and recognise that i) you yourself are brimming with pride with this perspective you keep putting forward and ii) your perspective is unbalanced in it's efforts in seeking an enlightened perspective. You do not gain wisdom by taking something you do not wish to tolerate and eliminate it.
It is exactly that mentality that saw you put forward your idea of synthesis camps without realising that you had just put forward a model concept in the same vein as WW2 concentration camps.
An enlightened perspective would not have fallen into trap. Not unless he or she had some other motivation beyond wishing to eliminate element's of the human condition they didn't understand or tolerate.
So while you write of repressing certain emotion's, I suggest you boot up sympathy and try to bring empathy back from the graveyard in order to gain a wider perspective. These posts you write contain evidence of pride and arrogance. Both are thing's you look down on. And yet both are thing's evident in your words and phrasing.
Modifié par Redbelle, 08 mai 2013 - 04:24 .
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