Redbelle wrote...
1: The truth you perscribe to based on little to no evidence that you are able or willing to divulge.
2. You see yourself as a savior. As on many occasion, you have said, and I quote. "I can help you all".
3. You are comparing yourself, in this case, to a character or character's based on a work of fiction, whose ideology and methods have resulted in the direct death's of (fictional) trillion's, and whose motivation's leave no room for regret over those death's.
4. Meh. You also think the base model for concentration camps is a pretty nifty idea without seperating the model with the event's of the holocost. Something which you have been given opportunity to do in the past by other's. Yet whose offer you have refused to accept, using the opportunity to promote more 'Seival's thought for the day'.
5. .............O.M.G. your serious??? ok, go back and read 4. Also, opponent's? I'm sensing a little passive aggressive here where you keep defending this POV of your's in the face of .
6. Reaper's will not resolve thing's peacefully unless you dock your Crucible into their Citadel and unleash a bit of Catalyst on them. Sovereign did not seek a peaceful resolution, san's catalyst to effect a different outcome. He raised an army and went to war. Harbinger used their existing army of a race they ruined and used as puppet's to wage a war on the meek and helpless of the human race. The Reaper armada decended from the sky and began tearing apart Earth as soon as they landed. Their nature is one of violence and you would tell us otherwise while their husk victim's go full zombie on Shepard and attack him on sight. I appreciate you have imagination, but you have truly lost focus on what and who the Reaper's are. You might be able to flip a switch at the end and make them something else. But those same Reapers would sooner shoot everyone and everything dead and harvest the rest who somehow made it. Which in this case is human's only.
7. Nooooo, you simply argue with them alot.
8.What do you call a year of pushing this outlook if not asserting oneself? You are actively seeking to assert your position on other's. If you were not you would not be posting these idea's.
9. Ditto. But in this case, trying to tell us that the Reaper's are not a mortal construction and should be seen as an act of divine nature is a bridge to far. Shep met the mortal race who enabled the creation of the Reaper's and they were not able to stop what they had started. Only Shepard and the cycle's upon cycle's of what you term lesser race's did that.
............ and what's this? you just termed everyone who does not agree you as haters? Well you didn't call them idiot's as per 7. But that's just splitting hairs. Yuo just actively engaged in name calling, displaying a degree of arrogance, and by extention.......... pride.
Look, it's ok to be prideful and arrogant.....ok, it's not. but at the same time, as we've seen, you, me us all........... we can not help but be these thing's and more. And apparently you've found God in a Catalyst who will make it better......... And yet, this Catalyst is a false idol, served to us by a developer who ran out of time and money to bring their ultimate vision of what the ending of ME would be...... either that or the guy who leaked the first ending really screwed them over by exposing the Dark Matter plot.
However, in your example you use the term 'love of one's own excellence'. Well, how about instead of love we use the term, 'acceptance of one's own excellence'. A world class football player knows he's world class compared to the rest of the world, a world renown violin player know's they rank in the top 5% of the world's elite player's. But while they may boast, they also climb up onto whatever stage is set for them and perform for other's. Suddnely, when you see these people doing what they do you see that they are not thinking about themselves, or what they can get out of it later. They are lost in the moment and have ceased to be a person of pride to be a person in tune with their chosen craft. It's not about them, it's about being the vessel to bring out the music, or being the athlete who put's the ball into the other goal.
Your understanding of pride seem's very old school christian where the Padre tell's the congragation, 'Your all sinner's and damned'. Whereas, modern day teaching tells us that 'You cannot help but be who you are. We're trapped in our condition. It's ok to want to be better. But you will never be able to do it alone'.
Beware Catalyst's Seiv. Like Booker DeWitt. They are the false Shepard's
(1) I can't boost someone else's brain power, that's true
(2) I do not see myself as a savior. My attempts to help in understanding have nothing to do with the pride.
(3) Really? Where? Show me.
(4) No, it's you who thinking that I thinking that. The concept of Reservations have nothing to do with concentration camps.
(5) You already forgot that I understand the original Catalyst? Or maybe you forgot that initially I didn't like the ending?
(6) Peaceful solution requires some components, and the Catalyst gained them only in current cycle. Also, machines that were made for harvesting, and intelligence that was made for protecting the life can't know anything of violence. They just perform the task. A human who wants to punish someone even in cost of countless deaths - this is the true essence of violence.
(7) There is nothing negative in polite arguing.
(8) Don't judge people by your own standards, please. By sharing my thoughts I'm not looking for asserting myself.
(9) Why should the Leviathans stop something that was not a mistake? All the mess was because of lesser beings, so we've got what we deserved eventually.
I always called haters the ones, who can only bark or make demands on the forums, unable to support developers or suggest something constructive. And my reaction has nothing to do with pride.
It's not ok to be prideful and arrogant. That's why I removed my initial confused attitude towards the ending. That's why I'm creating support threads. And that's why I'm on BioWare's side.
I told you what I see as a pride. I explained you the entity by its definition. You may call the entity whatever you like, its meaning remain the same. And this entity is a sin, that can only do harm... By the way. Dragon Age story has nice representation of pride, and how it can harm. Remember the Pride Demons, and who let them in? All haters here remind me Uldred so much. They came here to demand something they have no right to demand, and after they were ignored - started to act hostile and destructive.
The Catalyst is one of the most sane and wise beings in the entire trilogy.
Modifié par Seival, 08 mai 2013 - 11:56 .
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