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[jakl201]

But your getting nothing now. Instead your building yourselves up, turning speculation and...air...into 'facts', and then spreading it around, confusing others.

[KingDan97]

Well, it's not hurting anyone so why should you have a problem with it? We know when we're getting it but we don't know exactly what we'll get. If you see an issue with that, don't look at the forum. We're doing nothing to you.

[izmirtheastarach]

Double post.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 16 janvier 2010 - 08:13 .

[izmirtheastarach]

jakl201 wrote...

But your getting nothing now. Instead
your building yourselves up, turning speculation and...air...into
'facts', and then spreading it around, confusing others.

Yes, welcome to the internet. This is called a forum. It is place where people do that. Is this your first day?

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 16 janvier 2010 - 08:13 .

[jakl201]

Actually it is. I f*cking hate these things. Stupid and pointless. =( But I want ME2 so bad it actually made me join these things just to get more info. Suuuuuuucks.

[Wrex.the.next.spectre]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

You've missed my point. You CANNOT sign away your rights. It would be like signing a contract with someone saying that you will be their slave, and then having them try to enforce that contract.

And I also don't believe Javier is "under NDA". I believe that someone may have told him something, and asked him not to reveal it. That's a different issue. In case like that, he is protecting his source, and generally just being a nice guy. Either way, Javier is not IGN or Gamespot.

If you go to a public school, you have to sign away your rights ie. 4th ammendment. A school has to be able to search lockers etc. without needing a search warrant.

Without turning this thread into a political debate, I trust Javier, so with that said either you believe him or not.

[KingDan97]

 Well, 1up has confirmed that the Hammerhead exists, we're just speculating as to what it looks like. I'd personally say Javi's insight is pretty compelling. 
Proof

[izmirtheastarach]

Wrex.the.next.spectre wrote...

If you go to a public school, you have to sign away your rights ie. 4th ammendment. A school has to be able to search lockers etc. without needing a search warrant.

Without turning this thread into a political debate, I trust Javier, so with that said either you believe him or not.

Yes. I don't want to go back into that, but searching lockers is fine. They are the property of the school. It's the searching of the students themselves that is unconstitutional.

And to your point, I believe Javier is the most well-informed person on these forums, so I don't have any issue believing him. On top of which most of this is based on publicly available information anyways.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 16 janvier 2010 - 08:26 .

[Ktauliss]

Funny thing about 'Freedom of Speech' or at least how it is generally interpreted in US Courts. First is that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT is prohibited from legally preventing you from speaking, or from punishing you for speaking. What this means is you cannot be brought up on CRIMINAL charges for speaking.

However, if you sign a legally binding contract stating that you will protect sensitive information till given permission to release it, and you breach that contract you can be held Liable.

You can also be charged in a criminal court not for the act of speaking but rather the 'content' of your statement.

[EJon]

http://tvgry.pl/?ID=808



That video right there proves the hammerhead doesn't exist. End of discussion. Now that's one less rumor on the forum.

[GnusmasTHX]

Hopefully that's just a different model vehicle, like the ones in ME1. In my opinion, it looks awful.

[KingDan97]

EJon wrote...

http://tvgry.pl/?ID=808

That video right there proves the hammerhead doesn't exist. End of discussion. Now that's one less rumor on the forum.

One video is not proof, one mission is not proof. until a dev says outright. "We lied, the Hammerhead was cut/is DLC" you'll have no proof. I am going by what is considered fact here.

Fact: Javi is under NDA

Fact: Javi says the hammerhead is still in the game

Fact: Javi wouldn't bother to lie about such things

Fact: Javi has provided us with concept art of the Mako replacement

[TheRastapopolous]

EJon wrote...

http://tvgry.pl/?ID=808

That video right there proves the hammerhead doesn't exist. End of discussion. Now that's one less rumor on the forum.

haha, you wish...

[EJon]

KingDan97 wrote...

EJon wrote...

http://tvgry.pl/?ID=808

That video right there proves the hammerhead doesn't exist. End of discussion. Now that's one less rumor on the forum.

One video is not proof, one mission is not proof. until a dev says outright. "We lied, the Hammerhead was cut/is DLC" you'll have no proof. I am going by what is considered fact here.

Fact: Javi is under NDA

Fact: Javi says the hammerhead is still in the game

Fact: Javi wouldn't bother to lie about such things

Fact: Javi has provided us with concept art of the Mako replacement

Oh? Last i checked, Javierabegazo didn't work for Bioware. The concept art of the "mako replacement" is that vehicle in the video i posted above. If you notice, the player scanned for a planet, then found a merc outpost - proceeded to land on the planet, was brought to a "point of interest" by the Kodiac, end of story. There was no Mako 2.0, no driving around, just a drop off. What  makes you think other planets will be any different. Please use your common sense.

[Rioteous]

EJon wrote...

KingDan97 wrote...

EJon wrote...

http://tvgry.pl/?ID=808

That video right there proves the hammerhead doesn't exist. End of discussion. Now that's one less rumor on the forum.

One video is not proof, one mission is not proof. until a dev says outright. "We lied, the Hammerhead was cut/is DLC" you'll have no proof. I am going by what is considered fact here.

Fact: Javi is under NDA

Fact: Javi says the hammerhead is still in the game

Fact: Javi wouldn't bother to lie about such things

Fact: Javi has provided us with concept art of the Mako replacement

Oh? Last i checked, Javierabegazo didn't work for Bioware. The concept art of the "mako replacement" is that vehicle in the video i posted above. If you notice, the player scanned for a planet, then found a merc outpost - proceeded to land on the planet, was brought to a "point of interest" by the Kodiac, end of story. There was no Mako 2.0, no driving around, just a drop off. What  makes you think other planets will be any different. Please use your common sense.

We don't know if the N7 missions will be the same or any different.  We don't know if the Hammerhead will only be involved in the main story missions.  We don't know if the Hammerhead will only function as DLC.  We don't know if the Hammerhead's been cut.

We only know that Devs have referred to the Hammerhead within the past two months and that they have said certain aspects of the game cannot be revealed due to legal reasons (deals with magazines, NDAs, etc.).  I am suspicious in the sense that it would be very easy for them to say "No Mako and no Hammerhead" without violating any legal contracts.

Modifié par Rioteous, 18 janvier 2010 - 10:58 .

[EJon]

Why does everyone think of DLC whenever they want something? Just because they reffered to the Hammerhead a while ago doesn't mean its still in the game. The initially didn't have NG+, but added it last minute. They could easily have cut the Hammerhead out. If we have the Kodiac, there is no need for the Hammerhead. That concept art you guys keep referring to doesn't have Mako written all over it does it? It looks exactly like the Kodiac. Stop wishing for something thats not there.

[Kolos2]

So no Mako II, the ol Commander gonna do some hiking, good for the health eh
Shame tho, having an armored , armed vehicle in a war against the bug aliens might make more sense;

Why fix it if you can just remove it?

Modifié par Kolos2, 18 janvier 2010 - 11:05 .

[Yana Montana]

Vote for your favorite ME character here

[KingDan97]

Adding it last minute and announcing it last minute are two very different things. Chris's initial misinformation was based on several month old information, ergo it was put in several months before and announced later. The Hammerhead was talked about recently by developers, as in not Chris. As nice a guy as he is he's the only refutable source.

[EJon]

Use your common sense, what purpose would the Hammerhead have if you have the zodiac? What, will shepard say "Oh, i feel like driving a few miles to the drop point instead of just flying straight there, lets roll out the good ol' Hammerhead."



Seriously? Lets use our brains here.

[Junker4ce]

However unlikely it may be, the Hammerhead may have been cut from the game because Bioware just didn't have enough room for it. They said they were barely able to fit Mass Effect 2 onto 2 disks so the content may have been cut because the content would have most likely needed to be on both disks to allow access to these missions at all times.

To combat this, it easily could be packaged as free day one dlc to complete the original Mass Effect experience the developers originally imagined.

[Mokinokaro]

EJon, it's possible some N7 missions require driving (i.e. a dropzone too hot for the kodiak.)

We really won't know until Bioware tells us officially or the game comes out.

Modifié par Mokinokaro, 18 janvier 2010 - 11:24 .

[Apollo Starflare]

javierabegazo wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...



And I also don't believe Javier is "under NDA"..

From Jesse Houston's Twitter

They got to Javi!

I still think it's too early to rule it out entirely, as some people have said even if it isn't used for N7 missions that doesn't mean it can't crop up somewhere else.

[Rioteous]

A recent review, posted up on the old forums, has stated no exploratory vehicle:



http://meforums.biow...19223&forum=144



This would rule out the Mako in N7 missions as some of us expected, but does not necessarily rule out inclusion in main storyline missions.



Also, EJON, my comment about the HH being DLC is not my belief. I was reiterating what some had hoped elsewhere in case it was never covered. HH DLC is highly unlikely unless it comes as part of a later expansion pack.

[KingDan97]

Wait, that's one person's interpretation of an article. Without scans we have no idea whether they said there's no vehicle. That's even less credible then a magazine. They may have only mentioned the Kodiak and someone took that as no Hammerhead, which is the same as OXM not being allowed to talk about it. Were it that they listed the advantages and negatives at the end I could see it being more reputable, but this is one man's interpretation. Many people thought after the OXM incident that mean there was none, we still have no reviews saying flat out "There is no vehicle exploration." just reviews saying there's a vehicle that takes you planetside.