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[Sulaco_7]

meh, Rio, Giant, and juggernaut farming are all the same. Huddle together and focus fire without fear of sync-kills. You get rid of one, the others will take its place. Juggernaut changed platinum forever.

[Psycho Mantis I]

TMB903 wrote...

That's not how you spell "Condor"

[Learn To Love Yourself]

I hate Condor more, but Rio sucks. Is it as bad as FBW/G/G of the past?

[JPN17]

Meh I don't mind rio. I also don't pug platinum.

[capn233]

d_nought wrote...

RRP only happened because FBWGP got nerfed

I would say it was actually the change to Glacier that resulted in Rio farming.

[capn233]

Jack Crapper wrote...

I hate Condor more, but Rio sucks. Is it as bad as FBW/G/G of the past?

It is more annoying if you get particular objectives.

I don't like Rio in any random game for that reason honestly.

[parico]

capn233 wrote...

d_nought wrote...

RRP only happened because FBWGP got nerfed

I would say it was actually the change to Glacier that resulted in Rio farming.

Along with the nerfs to smash and slash  you used to be able to hide in that room on glacier and beat platinum in 30 minutes with slayers and pheonixs.  It went even quicker if you brought a justicar.  People forgot how easy camping was before retaliation.  The rio farmers have it rough compared to before.  Now it takes 45-50 minutes and the objectives can be brutal.  White and glacier where so much easier and faster back them. They also used strategy and teamwork like the single player.  It seams Bioware wants this team coop to be as individualistic as they can.  

Modifié par parico, 24 avril 2013 - 06:14 .

[capn233]

parico wrote...

 They also used strategy and teamwork like the single player.  It seams Bioware wants this team coop to be as individualistic as they can.  

I suppose camping is a legitimate strategy (there is a shirt for it after all), but I think the coop they were going for were combos and synergies resulting from character composition.

[Lauro Baptista]

I love RIO. o.o"

[parico]

capn233 wrote...

parico wrote...

 They also used strategy and teamwork like the single player.  It seams Bioware wants this team coop to be as individualistic as they can.  

I suppose camping is a legitimate strategy (there is a shirt for it after all), but I think the coop they were going for were combos and synergies resulting from character composition.

I have been revisiting ME2 and ME3 and you have to camp.  I find it annoying since I learned how not to camp in multiplayer so I am getting killed more in singleplayer.


Many out there arent using the combos.. Its kinda sad all biotics or a shadow paired with a paladin or Aui is devasting.  4 biotics can clear most maps on platinum in 25-30 minutes.  There is no need to hide on rio.   

[Deerber]

Where do I sign?

[january42]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Rio is actually a good thing. It keeps most of the people wanting to farm in one place. Now I get pissed when I drop into 10 Rio lobbies while searching or the game puts me there randomly but overall the map is a good place for people to farm and not pollute other games which they have no business being in.

This.  Honestly, I think the "solution" to farming is to just change the search function rather than try to fix every individual strategy that happens.    

Imagine if you could search for U/ Not Rio/Plat.....that would solve the problem honestly.

[Amusingthree93]

Brojo once said that 75% of the games happen on bronze/silver. Rio is great fun if the "box" is not exploited and on bronze and silver it is indeed not exploited.

So, maybe you should not expect bioware to alienate 75% of their multiplayer fanbase just to make the other, puny 25% happy.

Besides, if there is one map which needs removal over all else, it's Hazard Glacier.

Asking for a good map, which is not farmed by the majority (75%) of the players, to be removed is just plain stupid and those suggesting it should feel bad.

/thread

Modifié par Amusingthree93, 24 avril 2013 - 07:26 .

[parico]

Amusingthree93 wrote...

Brojo once said that 75% of the games happen on bronze/silver. Rio is great fun if the "box" is not exploited and on bronze and silver it is indeed not exploited.

So, maybe you should not expect bioware to alienate 75% of their multiplayer fanbase just to make the other, puny 25% happy.

Besides, if there is one map which needs removal over all else, it's Hazard Glacier.

Asking for a good map, which is not farmed by the majority (75%) of the players, to be removed is just plain stupid and those suggesting it should feel bad.

/thread

It was also was stated that only 1% of successful missions occur on platinum so an even smaller group play that difficulty. 

[hostaman]

I've only played 4 Plat matches in total and all were unkown map:

Cerb - Reactor
Reapers - Hydra
Cerb - Giant
Cerb - White

Yet to see Rio (on PS3 at least)

Must admit Giant was the easiest. Usual spot near the LZ.


Just my luck to become good enough for Platinum just as the top players are leaving

[flibber89-2]

Rio is just fine... I think people are realizing that sitting in the box just invites death unless you have a team make up dedicated to making it work ie Destroyer,GS/Vorcha, Volus etc.. which doesn't happen in pugs.. more and more on platinum rio teams will just hold the general area around the box... Giant comes up way more imo.. it is too bad because if people played the other maps more they would realize if your team is solid your chance of success is just as high on white, ghost, hydra, dagger, reactor vs. rio or giant. I personally wouldn't care if I ever played glacier again as I don't speedrun and I really find the map too confining for my rid range play style.

[SilentStep79]

@ flibber: hope we don't get that one pug who said we let our N7 scores go to our heads running around the map on plat. guess we didn't know that there's ONLY ONE PLACE to camp on Reactor. anything else is heresy...

[Lord Nutfork]

Di-Datau wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

I hate the map but less maps is a bat idea.

I do UUP PUGs a fair bit and Giant is JUST as common as Rio these days.

Another Bat Idea.

GREAT ONE... and AWESOME avatar, by the way....

[flibber89-2]

silentstep79 wrote...

@ flibber: hope we don't get that one pug who said we let our N7 scores go to our heads running around the map on plat. guess we didn't know that there's ONLY ONE PLACE to camp on Reactor. anything else is heresy...

Well pugs what can you do??  fortunately the bossy pug with a mic is a rare breed i've only had the misfortune of playing with a handful of times...  I always let my N7 rank get to my head i mean it is 3000 and something ****es.

[TheJimMan]

Close the box, or make it only big enough for one person and the ammo box like the other one in that area is. That's my only gripe. Beyond that, I love it. Firebase Endless Grenades is a godsend to we who, well, love grenades!

[Belahzur]

Rio is just a terrible map regardless of how you look at it. If you look at the LZ end of the map, there's really nothing going on there, it's open, spawn points sit on that end of the map so stuff can spawn behind you if your not careful.

Then look at the opposite end of the map. The boxes and the tower things, awesome for CQC and killing everything from behind a right hand corner without fear of anything hitting you back.

It's a shame the spawns are so terrible on Rio, the map is just too big, hard to control spawns and unless you are playing a long range character, snipers, PPR, then chances are you wont be killing much of anything. Vanguards work too, good mobility assuming you don't start glitching out, but oh well, I just refuse to play Rio.

[Mondhase]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

I hate the map. I get tired of all the damn running back and forth and finally decide to hold the middle like a boss, a really lazy boss.

[Sachell]

MaxCrushmore wrote...

Too much hate for Rio on this forum ... I wouldn't want to lose any playable content. I'm on PS3 and i don't want to lose the Collectors either ...

Rio matches take an extra 2-3 mins on average due to the size of the map. And the "box of shame" is a ridiculously overblown concept, there are 3 boxes that can be hidden in, not 1. These only prevent synch-kills, not regular attacks. So anyone hiding in these areas for any length of time is dead anyways, as all the smaller units approach.

That end of Rio has the most objects that can be used in the game for soft cover and RHA. An infiltrator paradise (esp if you have HM or geth scanner). Plus the most ammo boxes that spawn multiple grenades ... if they really wanted to cut down on the # of Rio games, they could have modified these ammo crates to only provide 1 per .. that would have made a difference.

this!! whenever I drop into a plat lobby and it's Rio/Reapers I run the enemies around a merry chase in that back part of Rio laughing at my teamates who cower in the box to hide from a banshee and get taken down by a hunter who snuck into the box that they didn't see, and anyone who lives after that gets DoT'd from the banshee. that box is a huge cluster****, but it's weird sometimes I rely upon my cowardly teamates so I can just dish out unending punishment upon whatever has them trapped in there. Rio is a really nice map in my opinion, I really enjoy the long sightlines meaning you can put a lot of high-powered rounds downrange but you always must look out for the enemies who can do the same. 

I dropped into a U/U/P pug and got Rio/Cerberus, and you know what we did? we stayed on the spawn side and split into teams of two just mowing down every mook and boss that walked those long walks towards us. we had 3 destroyers and me on the huntress, so it was pretty easy mode already but it took us like 17 mintues instead of the usual "cower in box while juggernaut draws all the aggro". if you want to have fun on Rio, try that. I guess it's still camping, but it feels like you really are fending off wave after endless wave of Reaper forces that way. just as lore intended 

[KingJablesV]

If you hate it then don't play it. Quit before the first wave and regret the fact that you couldn't see the other three crap themselves when you left.