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[Zulu_DFA]

PC wins. End of story.

[Inferno Sock]

Pc has its ups n downs so does xbox

I prefer xbox coz my friends play with me on it

[sinosleep]

I play my shooters, rts, and sim games on the PC. I play my sports, platforming, and driving games on my consoles (I have all of them). So I preordered Mass Effect on PC.

[Chairchucker]

Gill Kaiser wrote...
Anything a console can do, a PC can do too; it doesn't work the other way around.

I tried playing Rock Band on my PC but I accidentally broke my keyboard with the drumsticks.   

This isn't necessarily a bad topic, because in the case of Dragon Age: Origins, the console and PC versions were actually two completely different games. (Well not completely, but the differences were great enough to make it more than simply a 'which controller do you prefer' question.)

Have the developers confirmed that this will definitely not be the case with Mass Effect 2? I haven't seen anything from them on the topic, but it's possible I could've looked harder.

[Haasth]

I would say the PC was superior in almost any way besides controls.
The controls made it very obvious it was a port.

And I believe some visual graphics were better on the 360 or some such. (Even when maxed out on PC)

For Mass Effect 2 I am sure that PC will be superior as it no longer is a port. 

Modifié par Haasth, 18 janvier 2010 - 11:45 .

[Tony_Knightcrawler]

The PC version has improvements. Some are non-deniable, like being able to control each squad member individually. This helps tremendously in Pinnacle Station, BTW. Some are pretty obvious, but some will deny it, like being able to aim and manage your inventory easier. Some are marginal at best, like overall improvements in graphics depending on your PC.

However, it had some weaknesses. PCs can be a pain to set up for games, and even when you do they'll still have problems individually from time to time. Mass Effect was no exception. Garrus had a low-res texture on his face, and twice the dev team said they fixed it, and twice they were wrong. The Turian council member's face looked great. Garrus not so much. It's not a huge issue, but annoying. There was a consistent crash-to-desktop on a sidemission that only happened once per playthrough, but that was fixed in the latest patch. We had to wait FOREVER to get the promised free DLC, Bring Down The Sky, compared to the XBox360 users. But then, it was free. As people said, there were issues with the DRM. A DRM system which I personally hate.  Some people without sound cards had to suffer through HORRID sound unless you actually found the solution yourself with no instruction from the Bioware team and edited certain files on your own. That didn't even work for some people, though.

Still a decent port overall, but it stands that the PC version is overall better, but more of a headache. That's how it is with almost every multiplatform-with-PC game.

Modifié par Tony_Knightcrawler, 18 janvier 2010 - 12:25 .

[SithLordExarKun]

Tony_Knightcrawler wrote...

The PC version has improvements. Some are non-deniable, like being able to control each squad member individually. This helps tremendously in Pinnacle Station, BTW. Some are pretty obvious, but some will deny it, like being able to aim and manage your inventory easier. Some are marginal at best, like overall improvements in graphics depending on your PC.

However, it had some weaknesses. PCs can be a pain to set up for games, and even when you do they'll still have problems individually from time to time. Mass Effect was no exception. Garrus had a low-res texture on his face, and twice the dev team said they fixed it, and twice they were wrong. The Turian council member's face looked great. Garrus not so much. It's not a huge issue, but annoying. There was a consistent crash-to-desktop on a sidemission that only happened once per playthrough, but that was fixed in the latest patch. We had to wait FOREVER to get the promised free DLC, Bring Down The Sky, compared to the XBox360 users. But then, it was free. As people said, there were issues with the DRM. A DRM system which I personally hate.  Some people without sound cards had to suffer through HORRID sound unless you actually found the solution yourself with no instruction from the Bioware team and edited certain files on your own. That didn't even work for some people, though.

Still a decent port overall, but it stands that the PC version is overall better, but more of a headache. That's how it is with almost every multiplatform-with-PC game.

QFT.

[Coldcall01]

Eragondragonrider wrote...

 Okay I have played ME1 on my XBox and liked how it played, my question is was ME1 better on PC or Xbox? What was the different between the 2? and is there going to be a tool set for this one like DA:O?

PC as always.

I was given an xbox 360 as a bonus for buying a mobile phone contract and having played games on a PC since early 90s i have to say i think these consoles are total crap. Games just dont feel the same played on a console.

Im probbaly biased but my xbox has not been used since i tried it out. I should sell it really.

[sinosleep]

Just a quick comment in regards to headaches and gaming on PCs. Yeah, there can be issues, but when people go into these threads and make it sound as if every time you want to play a game on a PC it's going to take 4 hours to install and set up it really, really, pisses me off.

I've been building PCs and playing games on them for over 10 years. And never once, in all that time did I EVER spend longer than 40 minutes setting a game up. In the last 5 years I'd say I've never spent more than 20. Same thing goes for games constantly crashing and the such.

I've also spent the majority of the last 7 years in computer tech support, and you know what the number one error I ran into was? USER error. Viruses? User error. Slow internet browsers? User error. Lost data? User error. Crashing programs? User error. If you're computer meets the recommended specs (minimum specs are misleading IMO so I go off of recommended) and you actually take care of your rig (latest drivers, good anti-virus, regular defrags/maintenance/etc, compatible hardware) then generally, you shouldn't have any major issues unless they're the kind that needed to be officially patched.

If it's taking you hours to install and set up a game, and you're crashing left and right, the most likely problem is, you guessed it, user error.

Modifié par sinosleep, 18 janvier 2010 - 01:41 .

[AgentOfAtlas]

Technically speaking, the PC version should be better. However,in an "normal" setup (i.e. you have your PC at a desk, the console on a nice HDTV), which the majority of gamers have, the console has the advantage of feeling more like a sci-fi movie experience.

At this point, and this thread is a good example, people from both "sides" of the argument (and it's ridiculous that they even exist) will come in and blast the other. Which is somewhat amusing. For one, yes, PC games have a higher probability of bugs and incompatibility and issues; that's a given when you're developing for countless variations of underlying hardware and software, as opposed to a single, specific one like a console. It does NOT mean, however, that it's unavoidable, or that the vast majority of players won't have a simple, install and play experience.

Likewise, yes, if you connect your PC to your large HDTV setup, and combine it with a wireless keyboard and mouse, you can obtain the more immersive feel of the console experience, with more precise controls and better graphics on top of that. It does NOT mean, however, that the vast majority of gamers will have their PCs setup that way, or be willing to lug it around just to play ME. In fact, most won't and it's comical to see people acting almost as if others are idiots for not entertaining this option.

But really, as many sensible people have stated before in this very thread, the decision essentially comes down to two factors, by order of importance:

A) You pick the platform where you have the saves you want to import.
You pick the platform with the control scheme you prefer.

Modifié par AgentOfAtlas, 18 janvier 2010 - 03:01 .

[Eisberg1977]

AgentOfAtlas wrote...

Technically speaking, the PC version should be better. However,in an "normal" setup (i.e. you have your PC at a desk, the console on a nice HDTV), which the majority of gamers have, the console has the advantage of feeling more like a sci-fi movie experience.

At this point, and this thread is a good example, people from both "sides" of the argument (and it's ridiculous that they even exist) will come in and blast the other. Which is somewhat amusing. For one, yes, PC games have a higher probability of bugs and incompatibility and issues; that's a given when you're developing for countless variations of underlying hardware and software, as opposed to a single, specific one like a console. It does NOT mean, however, that it's unavoidable, or that the vast majority of players won't have a simple, install and play experience.

Likewise, yes, if you connect your PC to your large HDTV setup, and combine it with a wireless keyboard and mouse, you can obtain the more immersive feel of the console experience, with more precise controls and better graphics on top of that. It does NOT mean, however, that the vast majority of gamers will have their PCs setup that way, or be willing to lug it around just to play ME. In fact, most won't and it's comical to see people acting almost as if others are idiots for not entertaining this option.

But really, as many sensible people have stated before in this very thread, the decision essentially comes down to two factors, by order of importance:

A) You pick the platform where you have the saves you want to import.
You pick the platform with the control scheme you prefer.

well you got what you said, then you have Darth Trenton style, which is nothing more then misinformation, lies, and extreme over exagerations.

[GmanFresh]

everyone will just say their gaming console.

[the_devils_aid]

only read through page one so here it is:



1) Darth_Trenton is a console fanatic and will refuse any pratical input. forthe most part you should just ignore him.





2) a PC will always give superior graphics and resolution in games, simply because you play on hardware that is constantly patched and updated to handle the demands for new games to the extend of the hardware capability. the mouse and keyboard also give you more precise button and aiming control.



A console is typically cheaper, although you cannot upgrade hardware. the graphics are also generally poorer, however you don not need to deal with an install. the controller is much more firendly to casual/new gamers, but it doesn't allow you the same control.



overall id vote getting it on the PC if you have a fairly decent one, otherwise get it for the 360. but again thats personal preference

[AgentOfAtlas]

Eisberg1977 wrote...

well you got what you said, then you have Darth Trenton style, which is nothing more then misinformation, lies, and extreme over exagerations.

How so? I'm genuinely interested in what is "misinformation, lies and extreme over exagerations" in what I said, since my stance is pretty middle-of-the-road, in that both versions have their advantages. For the PC version, I pointed out it was technically superior, had more precise controls and that while, yes, it may potentially have more issues/bugs/incompatibilities, the vast majority of people won't suffer them. So it's ridiculous to blast people who pick the PC version for this argument.

For the 360 version, I pointed out that a HDTV setup lends itself to a more immersive sci-fi "movie" experience than the traditional "PC on a desk". Then I pointed out that PC on HDTV was the best of both worlds, but it was foolish to assume that the majority of people would have this setup. Which again, comes back to how I feel it's ridiculous to blast people who aren't considering this setup.

See? Pretty middle of the road. Which I finish by pointing out you should pick the version where you have the ME saves you want to import. Or, failing that, just pick the one with your preferred control scheme (some people prefer mouse, others prefer gamepad).

[sinosleep]

GmanFresh wrote...

everyone will just say their gaming console.

Including people who own every console and have a gaming rig? Like me? 

[Tobebech1307]

AgentOfAtlas wrote...

Eisberg1977 wrote...

well you got what you said, then you have Darth Trenton style, which is nothing more then misinformation, lies, and extreme over exagerations.

How so? I'm genuinely interested in what is "misinformation, lies and extreme over exagerations" in what I said, since my stance is pretty middle-of-the-road, in that both versions have their advantages. For the PC version, I pointed out it was technically superior, had more precise controls and that while, yes, it may potentially have more issues/bugs/incompatibilities, the vast majority of people won't suffer them. So it's ridiculous to blast people who pick the PC version for this argument.

For the 360 version, I pointed out that a HDTV setup lends itself to a more immersive sci-fi "movie" experience than the traditional "PC on a desk". Then I pointed out that PC on HDTV was the best of both worlds, but it was foolish to assume that the majority of people would have this setup. Which again, comes back to how I feel it's ridiculous to blast people who aren't considering this setup.

See? Pretty middle of the road. Which I finish by pointing out you should pick the version where you have the ME saves you want to import. Or, failing that, just pick the one with your preferred control scheme (some people prefer mouse, others prefer gamepad).

It is your opinion? I actually thing the experience is better on a Pc screen, than on a HDTV

[MrGOH]

I'm an ardent PC fanboy, but I'm getting ME2 for 360 because of the whole save importing thing (I got ME1 before I knew there would eventually be a PC port).



After playing through ME1 a couple times on 360, I recently bought the PC version of ME, thinking that I'd want a character to import into ME2 on the PC. But I had a terrible time getting used to playing ME1 on PC, enough that I just washed my hands of my plans to get ME2 for PC. Since I have no ME1 PC final save files, ME2 is going on my 360.

[Chained_Creator]

I'm getting it for the 360.



My PC is used for course work and the internet, my 360 is used for games. It's worked out well so far.

[AgentOfAtlas]

Tobebech1307 wrote...

It is your opinion? I actually thing the experience is better on a Pc screen, than on a HDTV

Yep, you're right, it is my opinion that ME becomes a better experience on a large HDTV, sitting on the couch, as opposed to sitting on a desk. Do note, however, that I specifically said "sci-fi movie" experience. That's an important note, and I didn't feel it was a stretch to say that most people would have better movie-like experiences on HDTV+couch than sitting at a desk.

On the flip side of the "argument", I also pointed out the PC's control scheme as more precise, which again is my opinion. It doesn't mean that it's "better", though, because some people vastly prefer a console gamepad, and it's a valid opinion. Even if I don't share it.

[Skilled Seeker]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

PC wins. End of story.

QFT n00bs!

[SkywardDescent]

Well, I got ME1 before the pc version existed, so I will be getting ME2 for the Xbox.

Don't get me wrong, I love my PC, and if I got ME1 for the PC, I would prbably get ME2 for the PC as well.

Modifié par SkywardDescent, 18 janvier 2010 - 03:41 .

[sinosleep]

AgentOfAtlas wrote...

On the flip side of the "argument", I also pointed out the PC's control scheme as more precise, which again is my opinion. It doesn't mean that it's "better", though, because some people vastly prefer a console gamepad, and it's a valid opinion. Even if I don't share it.

While prefering a gamepad is certainly a valid opinion, a PC's control scheme being more precise isn't. It's a fact. There's a reason why console games need to use a button to do a quick 180 in FPS games while on a PC you simply flick the mouse. Due to the fact that you are trying to do on a much smaller platform (thumb/ 1/2 inch diameter thumbstick) what you can do on a much larger one (hand/desk space) it's simply not physically possible to have the same amount of control translated to the screen.

Again, not saying you can't prefer a controller, obviously there are people that do. Just saying.....

[Tobebech1307]

AgentOfAtlas wrote...

Tobebech1307 wrote...

It is your opinion? I actually thing the experience is better on a Pc screen, than on a HDTV

Yep, you're right, it is my opinion that ME becomes a better experience on a large HDTV, sitting on the couch, as opposed to sitting on a desk. Do note, however, that I specifically said "sci-fi movie" experience. That's an important note, and I didn't feel it was a stretch to say that most people would have better movie-like experiences on HDTV+couch than sitting at a desk.

On the flip side of the "argument", I also pointed out the PC's control scheme as more precise, which again is my opinion. It doesn't mean that it's "better", though, because some people vastly prefer a console gamepad, and it's a valid opinion. Even if I don't share it.

Ok, you just got i to sound like a fact

[Eisberg1977]

AgentOfAtlas wrote...

Eisberg1977 wrote...

well you got what you said, then you have Darth Trenton style, which is nothing more then misinformation, lies, and extreme over exagerations.

How so? I'm genuinely interested in what is "misinformation, lies and extreme over exagerations" in what I said, since my stance is pretty middle-of-the-road, in that both versions have their advantages. For the PC version, I pointed out it was technically superior, had more precise controls and that while, yes, it may potentially have more issues/bugs/incompatibilities, the vast majority of people won't suffer them. So it's ridiculous to blast people who pick the PC version for this argument.

I was specifically talkinga about Darth Trenton, not you.