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People who do not like the end ... We would be the minority?


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Bizinha

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 Was reflecting, along with the topic about being sad about the end of ME3.Did we do not like the end we are a minority?

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CDR David Shepard

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I think you're the only one who doesn't like the ending.

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crimzontearz

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yeah you know Bioware has float charts that we are not allowed to see saying we are the minority

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o Ventus

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Nobody knows what we are. Among the BSN (the people who post anyway), people who are unsatisfied with the ending are a majority. Outside us, I would still be inclined to say we are the majority, judging from comments and polls on other websites. Outside THEM, no one knows, because those people don't make their opinion known.

Inb4 they don't talk, therefore they like it.

That is sh*t logic.

Modifié par o Ventus, 24 avril 2013 - 10:13 .


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Argolas

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Yes.

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jacob taylor416

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Not sure, Bioware says yes, but alot of online surveys says no

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AlanC9

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Depends on who counts as not liking the ending. If people who think the ending was kinda meh count, you're an obvious majority. If you need, say, drayfish- or iakus-level hate to qualify, that's a minority.

So, how much dislike and how much interest are you talking about?

Modifié par AlanC9, 24 avril 2013 - 10:19 .


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SpamBot2000

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The 90% minority.

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GreyLycanTrope

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I doubt it but who cares if we are, the end is still terrible.

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Kataphrut94

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I sincerely doubt that. It is people who like the ending that are the minority.

I suppose you could say both groups are in the minority when compared to the third group (incl. myself) which is the "yeah it happened, get over it" group.

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This is a silly topic.

Things operate on a sliding scale, it's not absolutes. There is no absolute liking or disliking of the ending. There are even things I dislike about the execution of the ending, which I would have written a little differently (for clarity's sake). I admit, I am very much towards the "I loved it!" side of the scale, but it is important to recognise that it's a sliding scale.

It's also relevant to point out that it's an ending that encourages and is worth introspection and philosophical examination. If you don't do that/don't want to do that, then you're not going to get a lot out of the experience, ultimately. If you've ever looked at a really weird bit of art and wondered just what exactly was going through the artist's mind at the time then you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.

It's important to immediately like or dislike something, in my opinion. Absolutes are horrible things, as are immediate judgements. It is also important to try to understand something before making any kind of judgement, otherwise the judgement is irrelevant and borne purely of ignorance. There is a lot of ignorance surrounding the ending which tends to weigh the "I hated it!" end of the scale. And that's a damned shame. But that's true of anything that isn't low brow.

Try to get a non-arty person to watch Pan's Labyrinth or Daywatch, for example. It's a disaster.

So there you go. My take on it.

Edit: It's both shameful and amusing that Zaeed Massani is more capable of art introspection that the vast majority of the entertainment mainstream.

Modifié par Auld Wulf, 24 avril 2013 - 10:28 .


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Doctor_is_in

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SpamBot2000 wrote...

The 90% minority.



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sH0tgUn jUliA

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Anyone who completed the game more than once liked the ending. That is how it works.

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Majority, minority. In the end, all I wanted was a end consistent with the journey to get there.

What we got was like getting in the car to go to the supermerket and ending up at a cattle auction. Which is a shame, because the trip there took us through familier area's that resolved the plot points of the past entries very well.

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Anyone who completed the game more than once liked the ending. That is how it works.


That's explains their math on the subject then...  :blink:

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Anyone who completed the game more than once liked the ending. That is how it works.

oh...**** .....I am so sorry

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Of all the ME players, probably only a minority hated the ending (note: millions played ME3).

Out of BSN, my GUESS is that it's not 50/50. Don't take my word or quote me for it, but that's my feeling. It used to be heavily biased in favor of disliking the endings, but more people have come to the other side, either through the EC, sick of complaining/fighting, just the general passage of time, etc.

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Auld Wulf wrote...

It's also relevant to point out that it's an ending that encourages and is worth introspection and philosophical examination. If you don't do that/don't want to do that, then you're not going to get a lot out of the experience, ultimately. If you've ever looked at a really weird bit of art and wondered just what exactly was going through the artist's mind at the time then you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.


Yes, but in that case, the ending recognized this. BioWare must have known that there will be a lot of counterstrike kiddies who just wanted to see the baddies blowing up, and they got that. They just miss other levels of understanding towards the ending. Then again, those hints are so obviously there that those people who do not want to see deeper levels of understanding still notice them but don't understand, so they are probably confused, don't want to think about it and just react by crying out how bad the ending is.

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Anyone who completed the game more than once liked the ending. That is how it works.


I've completed the game more than once.

I absolutely loathe the ending.

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Trauma3x

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Anyone who completed the game more than once liked the ending. That is how it works.
▲ this not true- i was not a big fan of the ending especially how the treatment of Miranda an Jack
Not being there for priority earth and the wall scene but i had 4 saves per LI (Miranda Jack Ash Liara and Tali) i've finished me3 25 times reason i did that was bc i didnt want think i wasted my time crafting all those saves from me2...

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The only reason you would actually care is if you were insecure about your own opinion and thus need support from your peers.

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o Ventus wrote...

Nobody knows what we are. Among the BSN (the people who post anyway), people who are unsatisfied with the ending are a majority. Outside us, I would still be inclined to say we are the majority, judging from comments and polls on other websites. Outside THEM, no one knows, because those people don't make their opinion known.

Inb4 they don't talk, therefore they like it.

That is sh*t logic.


Not that I'm saying that, but that's not **** logic, generally people complain about stuff they dislike and keep quite about stuff they like. The biggest figure we have on the ending, the Retake movement, were only something like 4% of the people who bought the game in March last year. People use terrible logic on BSN all the time (like that person above exagerating the 4% figure into 90%) and things like that should be called out as terrible logic.

Modifié par Robosexual, 24 avril 2013 - 10:55 .


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MegaSovereign wrote...

The only reason you would actually care is if you were insecure about your own opinion and thus need support from your peers.


Or maybe you were trying to prove that your opinion has commercial sway that the producer might want to consider.

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IT DOES NOT MATTER

for an argument to succeed, it can only succeed under its own Merit and the validity of the argument itself.

whether the people making the argument are the minority or the majority, it really does not matter. All that matters is the validity of the argument they are putting forward.

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If something is bad enough then the first place someone will go to voice their dissatisfaction is usually that games forum. Others find their way to the forum for tips or bug reports that then get embraced by a cuddly community. Generally people who enjoy something tend not to go to a forum to say they liked it which might explain why BSN is more negative about the ending.
Most players are probably indifferent about it so I would think pro ending and anti ending are both the minority.