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[FlamingBoy]

txgoldrush wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

What message did BS:I have?

Very simple. How far are you willing to go to undo your sins.

Which was really underdeveloped.

Unlike the first two games, Infinite lacks depth in key areas.

BS2 had no depth at all. It was a cash cow.

Wrong...absolutely and utterly wrong.

The PAIRBOND had a TON of depth.

I would disagree, anyone who truly loved the orginal bioshock (I did not like it ) would know that it did not need a sequel. Everything that was need to be said was said.
Bioshock 2 is not a bad game, but it exsitence is to cash in on the success of the previous entry , instead of being a game the market wanted to play. Hence the term "cash cow" is appropriate

Also if you call out someone for being "wrong" you should argue your point than just repeating the words ("wrong") over and over.

No, its existance is because the designers wanted to use Rapture to tell a more personal story.

Godfather didn't "need" a sequel either.

I hope your talking about godfather part 2, because 3 was a cash in. Godfather part 3 exists for the purpose of making money on the success of the previous iteration (that reason by it self is not enough).

Actually godfather part 3 is a perfect metaphor for bioshock 2

[M Hedonist]

OdanUrr wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

While everyone is throwing around controversial and poorly thought out ideas, allow me the opportunity to write the following:
Hotline Miami had better storytelling than Bioshock:Infinite.

Now run for your life.

I think I'm just gonna go to bed now. It's after midnight over here. And I'm feeling kinda sick. Jesus christ, what am I doing here?
G'night everyone.

[Mr.House]

Except I didn't find BS2 a great game. Sure the gameplay was an improvement but it did nothing for me. I didn't care about the characters, I didn't feel anything for the PC like I did with Booker and Jack, the story was boring and uninteresting, the ideas while nice where executed terribly and being back in Rapture instead of a new wonder city also didn't gain any points for me. BS2 is a decent shooter but it falls flat compared to BS and BS:I imo.

[txgoldrush]

dreamgazer wrote...

Minerva's Den is better than all of BS2, I definitely agree with that.

Its the series highest point.

[dreamgazer]

txgoldrush wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Minerva's Den is better than all of BS2, I definitely agree with that.

Its the series highest point.

And just like that, the magic is gone.

[txgoldrush]

Mr.House wrote...

Except I didn't find BS2 a great game. Sure the gameplay was an improvement but it did nothing for me. I didn't care about the characters, I didn't feel anything for the PC like I did with Booker and Jack, the story was boring and uninteresting, the ideas while nice where executed terribly and being back in Rapture instead of a new wonder city also didn't gain any points for me. BS2 is a decent shooter but it falls flat compared to BS and BS:I imo.

Because you didn't get that BS2 is about people more than a place.

Its a father daughter love story, it wasn't trying to copy the first games narrative.

[AresKeith]

Ok back on topic, txgoldrush take this to the Bioshock.Infinite thread in the off-topic forum

[OdanUrr]

BioShock Infinite thread

BioShock Infinite - Ending Discussion thread

[spirosz]

OdanUrr wrote...

BioShock Infinite thread

BioShock Infinite - Ending Discussion thread

[The Night Mammoth]

Oh great, Team Avatar are here to ruin the party.

[Mr.House]

txgoldrush wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Except I didn't find BS2 a great game. Sure the gameplay was an improvement but it did nothing for me. I didn't care about the characters, I didn't feel anything for the PC like I did with Booker and Jack, the story was boring and uninteresting, the ideas while nice where executed terribly and being back in Rapture instead of a new wonder city also didn't gain any points for me. BS2 is a decent shooter but it falls flat compared to BS and BS:I imo.

Because you didn't get that BS2 is about people more than a place.

Its a father daughter love story, it wasn't trying to copy the first games narrative.

If a story is about the people, then make me care about the people and make them intresting. BS:I did this, BS2 did not for me. It's teh same reason I did not care about ME2 which was ment to be a character focused game. You want to make a character focused story? Ok cool, I love those. Do it good.

You don't like BS:I ending, there's nothing wrong with that. There is peopel who don't like it too, but that fact that it did not create a crapstorm shows it is not worse then ME3s ending. Don't tell me the audience is diffrent. Lots of ME fans love Bioshock series and vise versa. The fact that people who hated ME3 ending but enjoyed BS:I ending is a sign.

[dreamgazer]

spirosz wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

BioShock Infinite thread

BioShock Infinite - Ending Discussion thread

Pffft. Narcs.

[o Ventus]

txgoldrush wrote...

But BS2 explains how Delta and Eleanor were bonded, and the story centers around this bond.

Delta is Eleanor's Big Daddy. He isn't her actual father. That's as deep as it gets. They wouldn't even have met if Ryan wasn't a paranoid f**k. 

Elizabeth is actually Booker's daughter. Upon completing the game, one can see the integration of this revelation into the plot, and it's near seamless.

And BS2's characters (or the supporting cast) are far more deep and multidimensional than BSI's.

Sure.

Sofia having no tangible motivation sure makes her a good villain. Admittedly, not that Comstock is any better.

Booker, being an actual character this time around, is a much better PC than Delta. The only field where Eleanor actually beats out Elizabeth is combat, being a Big Sister.

[OdanUrr]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Oh great, Team Avatar are here to ruin the party.

Problem?

[FlamingBoy]

txgoldrush wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Except I didn't find BS2 a great game. Sure the gameplay was an improvement but it did nothing for me. I didn't care about the characters, I didn't feel anything for the PC like I did with Booker and Jack, the story was boring and uninteresting, the ideas while nice where executed terribly and being back in Rapture instead of a new wonder city also didn't gain any points for me. BS2 is a decent shooter but it falls flat compared to BS and BS:I imo.

Because you didn't get that BS2 is about people more than a place.

Its a father daughter love story, it wasn't trying to copy the first games narrative.

It seems to be a running theme tx, you "get" everything and no one else "gets: it. Perhaps you should reconsider this idelogy and practice empathy to better understand why people do not "get" you.

As I remeber (been many years now) it bioshock was about the place, a city of scientific research, where the efforts of a man reaps his own reward, However the ambition of such a product (ala one man cannot control everything) led to its downfall.

[MegaSovereign]

Bunch of wanna be Naruto characters.

Trolololol

[spirosz]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Oh great, Team Avatar are here to ruin the party.

[The Night Mammoth]

Ha, am I supposed to be intimidated? Bender has a different meaning where I'm from.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Lunch. Lunch made all the difference in the world.

[SlottsMachine]

What in the ****?

[spirosz]

General Slotts wrote...

What in the ****?

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

You have to admit a good non sequitur makes about as much sense as the thread at times.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

 bioshock?i thought this was mass effect forum
link:forums.2kgames.com/forumdisplay.php

[phat0817]

Bioware says I am and anybody else who didn't like the ending....dosent change the fact that I didn't enjoy it

[TheRealJayDee]

Auld Wulf wrote...

Try to get a non-arty person to watch Pan's Labyrinth or Daywatch, for example. It's a disaster.

I love Pan's Labyrinth and dislike ME3's endings a lot. Haven't watched Daywatch, I believe, only read all the books a few years ago. I probably might be considered an "arty" person...

Anyways, good to see the likes of txgoldrush and Brovikk Rasputin are still in business! It would get pretty lame if only Auld Wulf was there to inform the old and new ending critics about their inferior intellects...