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People who do not like the end ... We would be the minority?


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#26
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Like most things there's probably a large group, quite possibly the biggest, who couldn't care either way. Based on that anyone with any actual opinion is always a minority no matter how good or bad something is. However it's not usual for something to generate quite the amount of backlash that the ME3 endings have

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Who cares. Bioware will still do what they want to, regardless of how the ending debacle happened.

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Eterna

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You actually are a minority, however, you being a minority does not make your criticisms invalid.

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seriously, it doesn't matter..

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Let's be fair. forums and other forms of input on the internet is composed primarily of voluntary response.

Though, I personally feel the game (ending included) better fits with a non-import, or a bad decision making player import.

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This is a silly topic.

Things operate on a sliding scale, it's not absolutes

Yet it is still possible for people to answer binary questions like "Did you like the ending?"... must be blood magic

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SpamBot2000 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

The only reason you would actually care is if you were insecure about your own opinion and thus need support from your peers.


Or maybe you were trying to prove that your opinion has commercial sway that the producer might want to consider.


Not that it actually means anything. How commercially succesful something was is pretty easy to figure out, especially if you're part of the industry.

Unless ofcourse, you're suggesting that Bioware could profit from premium ending DLC. That's still up to Bioware's judgement, and I say this not because there isn't an audience for that, but because only they know how much time and resources that would require and how they would fit that into their DLC schedule.

Also, considering the ME3 team is broken up now, the majority/minority argument is pointless even if we take your argument into account.

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In BSN? Majority.

Outside of BSN? Maybe 50/50, but I don't know.

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Yeah, that guy who calls everyone who doesn't embrace the Cult of Synthesis stupid caveman neo-luddites who only watch bad movies on their bone screens, and even then fast forward to the bits with big breasts flopping around is calling for a more nuanced approach to binary choice. Seems legit.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Unless ofcourse, you're suggesting that Bioware could profit from premium ending DLC. 


I am suggesting that, yes.

And there's the next ME game for those who care for such things. The response to outlandish twist endings might be relevant to how it will turn out.

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The majority of the players plays a game and then move on. The minority of the players plays the game and gets really attached to the game itself (the whole universe, species, characters, etc) and, in that minority, there is a group that hated the ending. So yeah, you are a minority.

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The majority no longer cares either way.

Auld Wulf wrote...

Try to get a non-arty person to watch Pan's Labyrinth or Daywatch, for example. It's a disaster.


Actually, both arty and non-arty people find Day Watch---and Night Watch, for that matter---to be visually-interesting rubbish.  

For a poster who speaks against absolutes and binary thinking, you sure are guilty of it quite often.

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ah yes, BioWare stats and math skillzz, we have dismissed such claims.

Minority. Well, if 65 to 90 percent is a minority. Then yes we are.

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If you abandon your beliefs simply because not enough people share them, they probably weren't worth holding in the first place.

Auld Wulf wrote...

Try to get a non-arty person to watch Pan's Labyrinth or Daywatch, for example. It's a disaster.


I liked Daywatch and thought ME3's endings were godawful. Go figure.

Modifié par Finn the Jakey, 24 avril 2013 - 11:28 .


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SpamBot2000 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Unless ofcourse, you're suggesting that Bioware could profit from premium ending DLC. 


I am suggesting that, yes.

And there's the next ME game for those who care for such things. The response to outlandish twist endings might be relevant to how it will turn out.


I don't think it'll have as big of an impact as you think it will.

I think other factors, such as whether it'll be a prequel or a sequel and what the premise of the story is would have a much larger impact on how it will do commercially. Though it's probably safe to say that they'll be pretty cautious about how they execute the game's ending.

For me, if the next game isn't an RPG then it's a no buy.

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Finn the Jakey wrote...

If you abandon your beliefs simply because not enough people share them, they weren't very strong beliefs in the first place.

well said

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dreamgazer wrote...

The majority no longer cares either way.

Auld Wulf wrote...

Try to get a non-arty person to watch Pan's Labyrinth or Daywatch, for example. It's a disaster.


Actually, both arty and non-arty people find Day Watch---and Night Watch, for that matter---to be visually-interesting rubbish.  

For a poster who speaks against absolutes and binary thinking, you sure are guilty of it quite often.



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o Ventus wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Anyone who completed the game more than once liked the ending. That is how it works.


I've completed the game more than once.

I absolutely loathe the ending.


I know that. You know that. But their online data counts that as a "like." You understand now?

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o Ventus wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Anyone who completed the game more than once liked the ending. That is how it works.


I've completed the game more than once.

I absolutely loathe the ending.


I completed the game three times.

Twice with MEHEM

I'm sorry :crying:

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Counting anything over one play through as a 'like' is ridiculous. I had to play through four times just to be sure that all the endings sucked.

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I played the ending 4 times. First I stumbled into the synthesis beam in confusion. Then I had to do a destroy ending just so I could at least get to sleep.

Then the EC came out, and I was sadly morbidly curious to see what they had done with the synthesis thing... what do you know, it was even worse. Then I had to do an EC destroy ending.

I don't like or approve of destroy. And I certainly don't like freaking synthesis. I can't bring myself to play ME at all, despite it being my favorite game series, probably ever. But that was before Mac Walters had his kid nag my Shep into suicide.

BioWare probably have me down as a "likes synthesis and destroy" in their secret stats. So yeah, that's how accurate they are.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 25 avril 2013 - 12:35 .


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I believe it.

I can easily see people on BSN who like the ending just not wanting to deal with the endless threads (and responses) on how bad the ending supposedly was, and just leaving the forum to go do something constructive.

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The majority of people never even played any of the games.
I'm worried EA is much more interested in reaching those people than in us. :)

Modifié par TimtheEnchanter, 25 avril 2013 - 12:50 .


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TimtheEnchanter wrote...

The majority of people never even played any of the games.
I'm worried EA is much more interested in reaching those people than in us. :)


That is a good point.

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I never really cared if I was the Minority or the Majority, I played ME3 and had my fun, now onto the next big thing.