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[tommythetomcat]

Saren commands respect and that makes him one tough dude in my book.  He certainly deserves some love because in the end of it all he really just wanted to help the galaxy, by ridding it of all the trash.  Very noble goal if you ask me!

[Keltoris]

His eyes are so purdy....

[Willowhugger]

I think it's interesting that Saren was actually a bigger monster BEFORE he became a Spectre than after he came into the service of the Reapers. By then, he was actively struggling against their goals when before he was a racist demagogue.

[tommythetomcat]

He was quite the maniac before becoming a Specter, but the First Contact War cemented his hatred of humans though.

[Litos456]

you know he died right

[tommythetomcat]

You know Shepard died right?

[LOLsarenLOL]

Rip off of my thread. /sue



This is not about Garrus's OVER 9000 eye piece.

[tommythetomcat]

WHAT 9000!?!?

[LOLsarenLOL]

THIS THREAD IS NOW ABOUT /b/

[KnightofPhoenix]

Saren is indeed a great character. And he was not a "monster" nor a maniac before. He was a specter who was allowed and encouraged to get the job done no matter the cost. Saren was the best and most respected specter there was and one of the most famous Turians all together.

He is a tragic character above all. The perfect antagonist.

[tommythetomcat]

He killed without cause and tortured without remorse, don't get me wrong it was for the "greater good" but it was still pretty maniacish.

[Burningwolf]

Just fitting he blew his own brains all over the wall then.Yes?

[OptimusAlex]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Saren is indeed a great character. And he was not a "monster" nor a maniac before. He was a specter who was allowed and encouraged to get the job done no matter the cost. Saren was the best and most respected specter there was and one of the most famous Turians all together.
He is a tragic character above all. The perfect antagonist.

im gonna have to agree with you here, even if his green goblin/Talespin thing was a little silly

[General Balls]

Saren returns from the dead and headshots Shepard from behind.



You heard it here first.

[Dellingr]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Saren is indeed a great character. And he was not a "monster" nor a maniac before. He was a specter who was allowed and encouraged to get the job done no matter the cost. Saren was the best and most respected specter there was and one of the most famous Turians all together.
He is a tragic character above all. The perfect antagonist.

tommythetomcat wrote...

He killed without cause and
tortured without remorse, don't get me wrong it was for the "greater
good" but it was still pretty maniacish.

both are right, IMO
he WAS an amazing spectre, highly effective at any mission he was sent on, certainly instrumental in stopping all sorts of threats to galactic stability

but unarguably he was also an utter bastard in a lot of ways

this combination is what makes him an awesome character IMO, that he was this really nasty happy-to-torture-and-kill-unnecessarily human-hating ****** but that he was also genuinely a hero. But yeah, by the time we meet him he's gotten in over his head with Sovereign and he's just trying to keep his free will and sanity intact and rapidly failing at it

in that respect, he's like a lot of historical figures we hear about who did stuff that helped to make the world the way it is now, it doesn't mean they were nice people and that in turn doesn't at all diminish the stuff they did

[droid105]

I hope Saren somehow comes back to life in ME 2 and maybe joins Shepard on his quest

[biomag]

Saren was boring. Yes, he was effective, but at the same time in no way better than his targets. He was dumb enough to join the reapers because he wanted to "put the humans in their place" and failed miserably at that.



Like Anderson said, sacrifice 1.000 to save 1.000.000, but not if there is another way. Saren was one dimensional. He just acted like a villain right from the start... the only other thing he held up "high" was the hierarchy of the council, but not really understanding it's concept.





Nah... boring character, better left for dead.

[tommythetomcat]

If you think he is one dimensional then you haven't read Revelation, besides that point the same could be said for any character if you didn't attach yourself to them. People connect with different personalities for different reasons. Wrex to me is as shallow of a character as you can get, but people who love him will argue otherwise, and don't get me wrong I love Wrex you know what you are getting with him. But Saren on the other hand has motives unknown to many people if they haven't read Revelation.

[biomag]

Actually I read Revelation. He even lost some depth because of it. Playing the game you get the idea that he joined the reapers to save the galaxy. Reading the book you see Anderson is right, he just wanted to gain power to keep the humans down and increase the power of the turians.



Sure its a matter of taste, but I simply never liked him.

[tommythetomcat]

biomag wrote...

Actually I read Revelation. He even lost some depth because of it. Playing the game you get the idea that he joined the reapers to save the galaxy. Reading the book you see Anderson is right, he just wanted to gain power to keep the humans down and increase the power of the turians.

Sure its a matter of taste, but I simply never liked him.

Well I suppose it's an "agree to disagree" sort of thing then. 

[Wolverfrog]

I thought he was a brilliant character, and I regret that it wasn't possible to save him at the end of ME1 by disabling his implants.



It would have been awesome to see him on trial in the second game, and you would have had the power to either condemn or exonerate him.

[InvaderErl]

He needed more than 2 scenes in which he talks openly with Shepard. There was potential but he's simply not in the game enough to get more development than broad strokes throwing him into "for the greater good" bad guy archetype. Granted, I like what's there but he could have been so much more.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 16 janvier 2010 - 03:37 .

[tommythetomcat]

Wolverfrog wrote...

I thought he was a brilliant character, and I regret that it wasn't possible to save him at the end of ME1 by disabling his implants.

It would have been awesome to see him on trial in the second game, and you would have had the power to either condemn or exonerate him.

That would have been a cool alternate ending:D