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[GreenSoda]

...and still insisting that Mass Effect 3 ending was only disliked by a "very vocal minority".

Source: http://o.canada.com/...-mass-effect-4/

Imo, that's a risky move on BW's part. *Really* risky.

Modifié par GreenSoda, 25 avril 2013 - 08:14 .

[Iakus]

Yeah there was another thread about this.

Then it got "disappeared"

[eternalshiva]

I'm not even sure why he brought it up in the interview, that's poking a hornet's nest tbqh.

[Terminus Echoes]

Yeah, that interview just gave me one less game to look forward to buying.

[Metalunatic]

Another reason why I'm not looking forward to ME4.

[arial]

christ, not this again...

not a credible source. if this was true don't you think some gaming site would have had this story?

IGN did not report
Gameinformer did not report

no actual game site reported this.

it just fabricated info someone posted on their blog.

people on BSN seem to be very gullible, if i posted on a blog "ME4 will be a cross-over with Fresh prince of Bel-air, we will play as the Hamburglar, and the final boss will be Felix the Cat", and "claimed" there was an interview where someone said it, people wuld likely believe me.


Anyways, this thread will likely be deleted shortly, as with the past 12 times this thread has started

[Malanek]

Hardly a surprise that he is on ME4. He really does need to look and understand the multiple reasons why people didn't like the ending though, or at least someone at Bioware does. Learn from your mistakes or it will have been a painful experience for nothing.

[SwitchN7]

Why cast stones at Mac Walters when even he admits that Casey's solo "vision" for the endings is what matters. If you don't believe me because i am an **** and everyone knows it please indulge in their own statements.

So please leave him be and:
1. Blame Chuck Norris Hudson for the endings if you wish(i personally do not).
2. Most of all please blame EA. That's it. Blame them. Period.
3. He cannot call it Mass Effect 4 because it's hard to call the next Mass Effect Call of Duty Micro Transanctions based Shooter a sequel. Do you understand now? I hope to the Gaming God i am a schmuck  and everyyy ME/Bioware fan including me will prove ME...wrong.

Modifié par SwitchN7, 25 avril 2013 - 09:53 .

[phillip100]

Somebody ask one of the BioWare staff on twitter (Chris Priestly, Mike Gamble, etc) if what was said on that website is true or not.

[KevinT18]

Ninja Stan wrote...

Not ME3 related. End of line

LOL precog time

[KevinT18]

PS he was the lead writer of the entire game not just the ending. If a chef gives me an impeccable delicious meal then poops on my shoe on the way out, I might still be tolerant of his next meal

[dreamgazer]

O, Caa-nah-dahhhhh.

But yeah, you'd think news about MENext's writers would be covered by, y'know, actual gaming journalism sites.

[AresKeith]

This probably isn't true since the last thread about it just deleted

[liggy002]

I believe that he thinks we are a minority. Why? Just take a look at how they responded to the ME3 ending fiasco and you'll have your answer. As for why it is not on IGN and other such sites, maybe that is because he really did say it and they don't want it to be publicized. There are few things that I beleve when people tell me stuff, but this I do believe.

Modifié par liggy002, 25 avril 2013 - 10:50 .

[liggy002]

KevinT18 wrote...

PS he was the lead writer of the entire game not just the ending. If a chef gives me an impeccable delicious meal then poops on my shoe on the way out, I might still be tolerant of his next meal

Really?  Not me.  I'd ask them to clean up the poop and since they didn't... why in the hell would I buy another meal from them?

[FlamingBoy]

The sheer number of people who got involved in the controversy... well it was like a tidal wave I have never seen.
The controversy became a living breathing thing, it just kept going. I mean this in it self suggests that it wasn't a "tiny minority" (to be totally honest the size of the group is irrelevant, to suggest that because they are a minority their opinion is less valid is a failure in critical thinking), Also notice that whenever a publisher does something wrong this excuse is popped up.

Honestly to quote mac walters will not get very far, he is highly responsible in the damaging of the public image of bioware, ala they are now viewed as a dishonest corporation.

[Chris Priestly]

iakus wrote...

Yeah there was another thread about this.

Then it got "disappeared"

It was removed as people insulted Mac, which is against the rules. These people were banned. The thread can stay open, but if it devolves into insults, then people will be banned and it'll be closed.

And for Arial and others who don't believe this is real, it is true. Mac is working on ME4 like he says in the article.

If you dislike Mac's writing SOLELY because of the endings, I suggest you look for all the other writing he did in ME2 & 3 and reevaluate how much you "hate" his writing.

[phillip100]

Chris Priestly wrote...

And for Arial and others who don't believe this is real, it is true. Mac is working on ME4 like he says in the article.

Thanks for letting us know, Chris Priestly.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

Mac Walters is great at dialog and small stories, like the loyalty missions in ME2. (He enjoys comics, after all.)

I think he needs a bit of a helping hand with major plots and resolution, but as along as there's peer review on the work and lessons learned, I'm happy to see him on ME4.

[arial]

@Chris
its not so much i "Didn't believe" it, its more I doubt the legitimacy of any "Game related news" that is posted on (what appears to be) a very generic site, yet ignored by every major gaming site i know of.

Either way though, I was apparently mistaken, and I shall admit it..


But Chris, any idea why gaming sites didn't report on this? and was instead reported by what appears to be a very generic site? sounds like the kinda thing that would be posted on the Escapist.

[FlamingBoy]

Chris Priestly wrote...

iakus wrote...

Yeah there was another thread about this.

Then it got "disappeared"

It was removed as people insulted Mac, which is against the rules. These people were banned. The thread can stay open, but if it devolves into insults, then people will be banned and it'll be closed.

And for Arial and others who don't believe this is real, it is true. Mac is working on ME4 like he says in the article.

If you dislike Mac's writing SOLELY because of the endings, I suggest you look for all the other writing he did in ME2 & 3 and reevaluate how much you "hate" his writing.

The nature of the ending, attempting to be epic and all affecting, Invalidates previous writing because his writing demanded an emotional attachment to have any meaning, He let off a string of plot that we had to follow.
and then..
He cut the string, hence it is tainted. It does not really matter how well he wrote garrus (for example) because I did not get any meaningful closure with garrus.

It was a bait and switch expereince (ex: MGS2 character switch, the only example I can think that had the same degree of negative attention), some would go as far to call it a betrayal (I know I would).

There were certain expectations, a "contract" if you will, that was between the company (bioware, lesser extent; mac walters)  and the consumer and it failed. Hence I hate his writing.

[FlamingBoy]

phillip100 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

And for Arial and others who don't believe this is real, it is true. Mac is working on ME4 like he says in the article.

Thanks for letting us know, Chris Priestly.

honestly I prefered to be in a state of delusion of him not working on the project.

[Endurium]

While I enjoyed overall the writing in the three games, the Star Child's bad writing gave me a headache. I wanted to make red marks over his subtitles.

[WoolyJoe]

Good ol' BSN posters, hating individuals on a personal level because they dislike something which proves to ultimately be subjective...

I can't really remember, but I don't think I started playing Mass Effect 3 as a direct result of Mac Walters's involvement... Alex Garland and Enslaved: Odyssey to the West, yes, but that was because I was already a fan of his previous novels and screenplays.

You're worried Walters will screw-up? Then wait and see if he screws-up - you'll either be right, or pleasantly surprised.
You don't wanna touch the thing because he's involved? Then don't touch the thing - go paint a fence or phone an old friend and see how they're getting on.

Basically: It'll mostly be subjective to your own opinion anyway, so just wait until you've played the thing. Godspeed, You! : )

[Iakus]

Chris Priestly wrote...

iakus wrote...

Yeah there was another thread about this.

Then it got "disappeared"

It was removed as people insulted Mac, which is against the rules. These people were banned. The thread can stay open, but if it devolves into insults, then people will be banned and it'll be closed.

Coming down on those who break the rules is cool.  But when an entire thread goes poof without explanation, it's hard to know why that took place, you understand.

If you dislike Mac's writing SOLELY because of the endings, I suggest you look for all the other writing he did in ME2 & 3 and reevaluate how much you "hate" his writing.

I've never said I hated his writing.  He's done great character writing from what I've seen.  What I object to is the rather dismissive assumptions he seemed to have about those who disliked the endings.