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[archangel1996]

You mean a world where ME has a proper ending? Couldn't resist
If the inquisitor can do that my Amell warden will probably kick his ass the old way, no big deal

[Althix]

no

[Cainhurst Crow]

Why in the maker's name would I want to make everyone tranquil?

[OdanUrr]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Why in the maker's name would I want to make everyone tranquil?

Imagine you didn't. The point is, if you could rid the world of magic without any side effect (naturally, there are long term consequences such as power shifts, etc.), would you still do it?

[Cainhurst Crow]

OdanUrr wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Why in the maker's name would I want to make everyone tranquil?

Imagine you didn't. The point is, if you could rid the world of magic without any side effect (naturally, there are long term consequences such as power shifts, etc.), would you still do it?

No, because I feel magic has a lot to offer the world and that it isn't something you can just take away from people.

[Fast Jimmy]

No, of course not. It allows unlimited possibilities. People did because of it, sure... but people die because of technology on a daily basis as well. Two of the most common cause of death for people 35 and under are car wrecks and gun fatalities. Does that mean mankind would have been better off if they had never invented the trigger mechanism or the combustible engine? Of course not.

It's a silly question. One should not simply cut off a potential source of life-saving knowledge and development just because there is a risk for a downside.

[OdanUrr]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

It's a silly question.

And yet, many people would readily do so in a heartbeat. The point of the question is to engender discussion not to belittle other people's choices.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

No, of course not. It allows unlimited possibilities. People did because of it, sure... but people die because of technology on a daily basis as well. Two of the most common cause of death for people 35 and under are car wrecks and gun fatalities. Does that mean mankind would have been better off if they had never invented the trigger mechanism or the combustible engine? Of course not.

It's a silly question. One should not simply cut off a potential source of life-saving knowledge and development just because there is a risk for a downside.

Sez Harry Potter! 

[RedArmyShogun]

It is really too bad I'm too apathetic right now to make a spin on part of your world to show how nice the mages not being around would be... maybe later.

[ObserverStatus]

That would be awful! The maker crated magic to serve man and you'd be throwing his gift away! And besides, for all their faults, the existence of those freaky mages make us normal folks feel better about ourselves.

[Wulfram]

So what happens to demons, dragons, darkspawn, spirits etc?

[Vit246]

No more mutants.

[LPPrince]

Yeah, I wonder how Thedosians would combat the darkspawn without magic around to assist.

[MisterJB]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

No, of course not. It allows unlimited possibilities. People did because of it, sure... but people die because of technology on a daily basis as well. Two of the most common cause of death for people 35 and under are car wrecks and gun fatalities. Does that mean mankind would have been better off if they had never invented the trigger mechanism or the combustible engine? Of course not.

It's a silly question. One should not simply cut off a potential source of life-saving knowledge and development just because there is a risk for a downside.

Whatever possibilities it allows are restricted to a privileged class of people who will, inevitably, bring suffering to those not born with magic.
Meanwhile, science and technology can be used by all and can benefit all.

[Face of Evil]

LPPrince wrote...

Yeah, I wonder how Thedosians would combat the darkspawn without magic around to assist.

Arrows and swords work pretty well. In fact, wasn't the Archdemon killed by stabbing it in the head?

[-TC1989-]

Wow hard to say. I think a lot of mages would be grateful for the opportunity. I know a lot of them hate themselves for the "curse" they've been born with. I think too on the other hand, a lot of people losing their magic, would probably riot because of being "robbed" of true power. I think it would be for the best, for both worlds. It would be a huge moment though, and a really hard choice. Cool scenario.

[MisterJB]

Anyone who complais because they've "been robbed of true power" is not someone I'd trust with magic, anyway.

[Dabrikishaw]

Perfectly fine with it.

[-TC1989-]

MisterJB wrote...

Anyone who complais because they've "been robbed of true power" is not someone I'd trust with magic, anyway.

Well of course not. But how many Magisters from Tevinter would think that? I'm only being realistic here. I'm not saying them thinking that is reasonable, or understandable. But you know a fair amount of mages would think this.

[Fast Jimmy]

MisterJB wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

No, of course not. It allows unlimited possibilities. People did because of it, sure... but people die because of technology on a daily basis as well. Two of the most common cause of death for people 35 and under are car wrecks and gun fatalities. Does that mean mankind would have been better off if they had never invented the trigger mechanism or the combustible engine? Of course not.

It's a silly question. One should not simply cut off a potential source of life-saving knowledge and development just because there is a risk for a downside.

Whatever possibilities it allows are restricted to a privileged class of people who will, inevitably, bring suffering to those not born with magic. * Meanwhile, science and technology can be used by all and can benefit all.
 

Nothing is preventing magic from being used by the masses for the benefit of all. Objects can be enchanted to be used by those without magic - hence why there is magic armor for warriors. Magic is not limited to those who can wield it, either, as seen by the face that the best enchanters are the dwarves and The Tranquil.

So if items can be made be non-Mages and used by non-Mages, the is only thing limiting its use in every day life is resources and prejudices (just like what held up the widespread benefit of technology). There is no reason that we couldn't see items that can heal the sick just as well as a Mage could, nor see a plowshare made with +10 to crop growing. 

[BouncyFrag]

Filament wrote...

And then Thedas was Earth all along? What a terrible idea...

How else will we then get to the Mass Effect universe? Its all connected.

[Fast Jimmy]

BouncyFrag wrote...

Filament wrote...

And then Thedas was Earth all along? What a terrible idea...

How else will we then get to the Mass Effect universe? Its all connected.

I am now picturing Shepherd pulling a Charlton Heston...

"You maniacs! You blew it up! D@mn you all! D@mn you all to Hell!"

[Darth Death]

Magic is a huge responsibility for humans. Such power comes at a cost- a price that takes away one's freedom from integrating in human society. As human, it's natural to desire acceptance from others. Being a mage hinders communication through communities outside their world. IMO the minority may long for enlightenment regardless of hindsight; a dangerous bunch to consider. Magic is a foreign tool that humans have yet to control. If within my power to rectify, magic would not exist.

[Dave of Canada]

Ultimately, it would depend on the character.

However, I wouldn't do it. As much as I advocate against mages, they're the only things stopping Qunari or Darkspawn from stepping on our lawn and that's why I'd support reinstating the Circle of Magi to train and prepare them. 

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 26 avril 2013 - 07:55 .