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[The Heretic of Time]

Cirram55 wrote...

 The nerve they had to just behave like a corporation and destroy my mental image of them!

This is just silly. If a corporation tries to screw me over, they can go f*** off. Such companies (like EA) deserve all the hate they get.

They are no saint, they're basically exploiting the general situation of distrust towards major companies and the fact that most of them treat their customers like no more than breathing wallets (which is commendable, I'll reiterate), but they're not doing it because they love you or because they saw the light or something.

The big difference here is that CDPR is a small company with passionate people who are not only game developers, but also gamers. That in combination with the fact that they're not owned by a mega-corporation (like EA) means they aren't "just a company who exploits the current situation".

Nobody is idolizing CDPR, we simply praise CDPR for treating their customizers right.

Indeed, they are no saints, but at least they're humans with love and passion for video-games and art. Their products clearly are a labor of love. The same thing can't be said about many other game-development companies.

[AresKeith]

Modifié par AresKeith, 28 avril 2013 - 12:19 .

[wsandista]

Cyberpunk 2077 looks promising as hell. I hope they keep it closer to a PnP game than the Witcher however, and use a full text dialogue system with silent PC.

I haven't looked through the thread, but has the "Waaaaaaaaaaaaah! The Witcher was sexist! Entitled white male gamers!" ranting already occurred?

[Ravensword]

wsandista wrote...

Cyberpunk 2077 looks promising as hell. I hope they keep it closer to a PnP game than the Witcher however, and use a full text dialogue system with silent PC.

I haven't looked through the thread, but has the "Waaaaaaaaaaaaah! The Witcher was sexist! Entitled white male gamers!" ranting already occurred?

No, but a variant of it has already started which is the "Whaaaaaaaaaaaa! Cyberpunk 2070 is a sexist game devloped by white male gamers for white male gamers!"

Modifié par Ravensword, 28 avril 2013 - 12:28 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

J. Reezy wrote...
No idea. Then again, I do feel smarter being a part of the Single Player Master Race most of the time.

Best form of existance tbh.

[Ravensword]

Seraph Cross wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

Let's see...

Persephone wrote...

It's sexist (Robo girl in a submissive
pose, bloodied and wearing a slip is the only female they have
revealed..) and offensive.

Is this serious?

Very. I'm already writing an e-mail to Amnesty International.

[Seboist]

Seraph Cross wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

Meanwhile...TW3 will have multiplayer!

Wait...I thought they didn't sell out or dumb down their games...hmm...

Since when does adding multiplayer  means the game is being dumbed down?

Mass Effect 1-3(and perhaps Dragon Age as well) would have been much better with campaign drop in/drop out co-op where one's friends could play as the companions. I was hoping that was the multiplayer they had in mind for 3 but horde mode was fun as well.

[AresKeith]

Seboist wrote...

Seraph Cross wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

Meanwhile...TW3 will have multiplayer!

Wait...I thought they didn't sell out or dumb down their games...hmm...

Since when does adding multiplayer  means the game is being dumbed down?

Mass Effect 1-3(and perhaps Dragon Age as well) would have been much better with campaign drop in/drop out co-op where one's friends could play as the companions. I was hoping that was the multiplayer they had in mind for 3 but horde mode was fun as well.

I was hoping that too for the ME3 multiplayer

or atleast multiply co-op game modes

[Ravensword]

Seraph Cross wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Seraph Cross wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

Meanwhile...TW3 will have multiplayer!

Wait...I thought they didn't sell out or dumb down their games...hmm...

Since when does adding multiplayer  means the game is being dumbed down?

Mass Effect 1-3(and perhaps Dragon Age as well) would have been much better with campaign drop in/drop out co-op where one's friends could play as the companions. I was hoping that was the multiplayer they had in mind for 3 but horde mode was fun as well.

I agree with this. There are some games that could pull it off. Despite the epic fail that was ME3's singleplayer the multiplayer I felt was good. I actually spent more time on the multiplayer than the singleplayer

I think the vast majority of people who spent more time on MP than SP.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

I love Witcher threads. The overreaction and butthurt from CDPR fans and BioWare stalwarts alike is hilarious.

[Persephone]

Maverick827 wrote...

Roflbox wrote...

Persephone wrote...

I am less than impressed with their marketing for this new game. It's sexist (Robo girl in a submissive pose, bloodied and wearing a slip is the only female they have revealed..) and offensive. And I am bored to death of the Cyberpunk setting being milked EVERYWHERE

This is pretty offensive.

Whle I agree, that's not part of the game.

I really can't agree with all of the CDPR love.  Entirely aside from how I feel about the games, as people they appear to be full of themselves.  They pander by saying obvious things that games will like.  Every single quote I've ever seen from them I can't help but read in that smug over-the-top German accent from Beerfest (I realize that they're Polish, but like I said, I just can't help it)

Yup. And from what I've seen on and offline, the Witcher series isn't exactly a fave among those who read the book series.

I haven't read them but yeah, I am skeptical. And I enjoyed that series way before the whole "CDPR vs. Bioware" nonsense began.

I will say this: They are damn good at making games. Their marketing is also spot on, they pander like hell and the fans adore it.

Good for them. I still don't like their attitude, their treatment of female characters and their pandering. *Shrugs*

P.S. Not to say that I am very fond of Bioware atm either.

Modifié par Persephone, 28 avril 2013 - 01:06 .

[Arcadian Legend]

CrustyBot wrote...

I love Witcher threads. The overreaction and butthurt from CDPR fans and BioWare stalwarts alike is hilarious.

Definitely can't say I disagree there. +100 tbh.

[Persephone]

Ravensword wrote...

wsandista wrote...

Cyberpunk 2077 looks promising as hell. I hope they keep it closer to a PnP game than the Witcher however, and use a full text dialogue system with silent PC.

I haven't looked through the thread, but has the "Waaaaaaaaaaaaah! The Witcher was sexist! Entitled white male gamers!" ranting already occurred?

No, but a variant of it has already started which is the "Whaaaaaaaaaaaa! Cyberpunk 2070 is a sexist game devloped by white male gamers for white male gamers!"

That wasn't what I said at all. I said that the teaser/marketing was problematic to me and why. Can't say anything about the game itself and I haven't as it isn't out yet. Besides, a game can have problematic issues and still be a damn entertaining experience that is well written.

[Chromie]

You guys sure are salty.

[Maverick827]

wsandista wrote...

I haven't looked through the thread, but has the "Waaaaaaaaaaaaah! The Witcher was sexist! Entitled white male gamers!" ranting already occurred?

"Was?"

[wsandista]

Maverick827 wrote...
"Was?"

Past tense. Also completely subjective.

[AtreiyaN7]

Isichar wrote...

Persephone wrote...

I am less than impressed with their marketing for this new game. It's sexist (Robo girl in a submissive pose, bloodied and wearing a slip is the only female they have revealed..) and offensive. And I am bored to death of the Cyberpunk setting being milked EVERYWHERE!

Seriously? This is like the Bioshock Infinite cover art story. Is this really something worth feeling offended over? The more and more I listen to what people get offended over in regards to video games on these forums, the harder it becomes to take others feelings seriously.

I'm pretty sure that Elizabeth wasn't wearing a slip - she's dressed fairly modestly all things considered. What I find both hilarious and hypocritical is seeing people who have always complained about Miranda's stiletto heels and/or her outfit heap praise upon cyber-chick in that Cyberpunk 2077 trailer - despite the fact that she's wearing a slip and stiletto heels.

I  mean, really? That's what you wear when trying to escape from/to confront a large number of police officers with futuristic weapons and tech, eh? I'd like to see someone try to come up with a logical reason for cyber-chick to be dressed in the way that she is in that particular situation. To me it looks like she ran straight out of a strip club or one of those Victoria's Secret runway shows. If there's some backstory about her hiding out and performing as an exotic dancer a la Zhora in Bladerunner, then...I'd just find that derivative.

I'm actually interested in the game's progress since I like the cyberpunk genre, but man, that outfit is the last thing I'd want my character wearing at any point it time, unless it happens during some sort of romance scene (although I'd probably find it cheesy). I also hope that if they have a fixed protagonist he/she is less of a bore than Geralt (who's probably the most deathly dull character that I've ever had the misfortune of playing).

[NeonFlux117]

CDPR has my trust and business for the foreseeable future. Unless they get bought by EA or Activision. If those things happen, then I will abandon all praise and trust very,very,very quickly. But for now, they're doing it right. And they do seem to 'get it'. To bad another once storied and praised RPG dev doesn't 'get it' anymore.