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[Sulaco_7]

tyhw wrote...

Sulaco_7 wrote...

Why does the weapon you use make the DoT damage change? Why is the DoT smaller for the spitfire and larger for the reegar? I mean the weapon is simply prolonging the inferno grenade DoT, which should be the same in all cases, no?

The damage ramps up from interaction between Incendiary Ammo and Inferno Grenade DoT.  Incendiary Ammo damage is dependent on the damage your gun does, with a bug dependent on fire rate.  The higher the fire rate, the more beneficial this bug is.  Thus, the more powerful the gun, and the faster it fires, the more powerful the Incendiary Ammo component of the bug is.  The stronger this component, the higher the final damage numbers

Okay, thanks for the explanation.  I gather than the PPR would be a good weapon to exploit this bug. 

[Tybo]

Sulaco_7 wrote...

tyhw wrote...

Sulaco_7 wrote...

Why does the weapon you use make the DoT damage change? Why is the DoT smaller for the spitfire and larger for the reegar? I mean the weapon is simply prolonging the inferno grenade DoT, which should be the same in all cases, no?

The damage ramps up from interaction between Incendiary Ammo and Inferno Grenade DoT.  Incendiary Ammo damage is dependent on the damage your gun does, with a bug dependent on fire rate.  The higher the fire rate, the more beneficial this bug is.  Thus, the more powerful the gun, and the faster it fires, the more powerful the Incendiary Ammo component of the bug is.  The stronger this component, the higher the final damage numbers

Okay, thanks for the explanation.  I gather than the PPR would be a good weapon to exploit this bug. 

It is.  The Spitfire is too, since it'll let you kill even more enemies.  And the increased shield damage helps, since IA will tick 0 against shields.  

But nothing comes within the Reegar's stratosphere when it comes to cheese

[longgamma]

Does ammo level matter mate?

[Grun7mas7er]

tyhw wrote...

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

So...

Throw Grenade -> keep shooting -> Keep them on fire -> DoT is that of Grenade..
Right?

Awesome !

It's actually more like DoT is 3 times that of a grenade.  Or more

By The Claymore... 

[Ryuji2]

Been dinking around with Inferno 'Nade, Incendiary Ammo and Reegar like people mentioned...holy crap does it tear through armor. It...it's so beautiful.

[Kenadian]

GohanOwns wrote...

With which weapon can I get the second highest cheese after reegar?

I'd be betting something with really high DPS or sometihng with high dps and sustained fire. So, Hurricane, PPR or Typhoon maybe?

[Sulaco_7]

I think probably Krogan soldier with reegar and PPR would be the optimal setup. Since weight doesn't matter with this guy, you can equip high velocity barrel on both and cheese from short or long range. The ultimate platinum kit.

[peddroelm]

Kenadian wrote...

GohanOwns wrote...

With which weapon can I get the second highest cheese after reegar?

I'd be betting something with really high DPS or sometihng with high dps and sustained fire. So, Hurricane, PPR or Typhoon maybe?

typhoon not so hot in this case (the vs defence multipliers don't do anything for ammo damage) .. Take them away and typhoon DPS not so hot ..

[megabeast37215]

UnknownMercenary wrote...

I thought people knew this months ago.

[d_nought]

megabeast37215 wrote...

UnknownMercenary wrote...

I thought people knew this months ago.

I knew it acceleraed the DoT of the inferno grenade, but I never knew it would actually do more damage.

[Kenadian]

peddroelmz wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

GohanOwns wrote...

With which weapon can I get the second highest cheese after reegar?

I'd be betting something with really high DPS or sometihng with high dps and sustained fire. So, Hurricane, PPR or Typhoon maybe?

typhoon not so hot in this case (the vs defence multipliers don't do anything for ammo damage) .. Take them away and typhoon DPS not so hot ..

Good point. PPR or Hurricane are probably the best bets then.

[Tybo]

d_nought wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

UnknownMercenary wrote...

I thought people knew this months ago.

I knew it acceleraed the DoT of the inferno grenade, but I never knew it would actually do more damage.

This is the point.  For example, in our first run (Harrier +IG), we tried the following:

Inferno Grenade:  5328 damage over 8 seconds
Incendiary Ammo Clip: 2168 IA damage over 5 seconds
IG + IA:  10450 (IA+IG) damage over 5 seconds.

Total expected damage:  7496
Actual damage: 10450

Actual damage output is 40% higher than expected

Modifié par tyhw, 27 avril 2013 - 09:04 .

[DrFace007]

tyhw wrote...

d_nought wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

UnknownMercenary wrote...

I thought people knew this months ago.

I knew it acceleraed the DoT of the inferno grenade, but I never knew it would actually do more damage.

This is the point.  For example, in our first run (Harrier +IG), we tried the following:

Inferno Grenade:  5328 damage over 8 seconds
Incendiary Ammo Clip: 2168 IA damage over 5 seconds
IG + IA:  10450 (IA+IG) damage over 5 seconds.

Total expected damage:  7496
Actual damage: 10450

Actual damage output is 40% higher than expected

But what about the actual damage output in that same 5 second window?
Is inferno grenade 5 second damage = 4685?

Making the 5 second comparison between expected and actual being 6853 and 10450 making the actual damage output over 52% higher than expected for that same 5 second DPS window?

[Tybo]

DrFace007 wrote...

tyhw wrote...

d_nought wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

UnknownMercenary wrote...

I thought people knew this months ago.

I knew it acceleraed the DoT of the inferno grenade, but I never knew it would actually do more damage.

This is the point.  For example, in our first run (Harrier +IG), we tried the following:

Inferno Grenade:  5328 damage over 8 seconds
Incendiary Ammo Clip: 2168 IA damage over 5 seconds
IG + IA:  10450 (IA+IG) damage over 5 seconds.

Total expected damage:  7496
Actual damage: 10450

Actual damage output is 40% higher than expected

But what about the actual damage output in that same 5 second window?
Is inferno grenade 5 second damage = 4685?

Making the 5 second comparison between expected and actual being 6853 and 10450 making the actual damage output over 52% higher than expected for that same 5 second DPS window?

It was previously shown by peddroelmz that Inferno Grenades+Incendiary Ammo will accelerate the IG DoT to happen within the length of the IA DoT.  Thus, the whole IG damage is expected to take place within the 5 second window.

Modifié par tyhw, 27 avril 2013 - 09:35 .

[Stardusk]

tyhw wrote...

DrFace007 wrote...

tyhw wrote...

d_nought wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

UnknownMercenary wrote...

I thought people knew this months ago.

I knew it acceleraed the DoT of the inferno grenade, but I never knew it would actually do more damage.

This is the point.  For example, in our first run (Harrier +IG), we tried the following:

Inferno Grenade:  5328 damage over 8 seconds
Incendiary Ammo Clip: 2168 IA damage over 5 seconds
IG + IA:  10450 (IA+IG) damage over 5 seconds.

Total expected damage:  7496
Actual damage: 10450

Actual damage output is 40% higher than expected

But what about the actual damage output in that same 5 second window?
Is inferno grenade 5 second damage = 4685?

Making the 5 second comparison between expected and actual being 6853 and 10450 making the actual damage output over 52% higher than expected for that same 5 second DPS window?

It was previously shown by peddroelmz that Inferno Grenades+Incendiary Ammo will accelerate the IG DoT to happen within the length of the IA DoT.  Thus, the whole IG damage is expected to take place within the 5 second window.

How much of your engineering education has contributed to your discoveries here?

[Deerber]

Lolol! Even moar chaeeeze than we knew then! Good job findint out, as always! 

UnknownMercenary wrote...

well, this won't get me to put an automatic gun on my krosol but dem numbers

gatdamn

The day I'll put an automatic gun on my Krogan soldier will be the day they release an automatic Claymore 

[stysiaq]

Deerber wrote...

Lolol! Even moar chaeeeze than we knew then! Good job findint out, as always! 

UnknownMercenary wrote...

well, this won't get me to put an automatic gun on my krosol but dem numbers

gatdamn

The day I'll put an automatic gun on my Krogan soldier will be the day they release an automatic Claymore 

Striker is Krogan, enjoy.

[ka243]

Would this work with other dot powers like arc nades? Also what are the best evos of inferno grenade to exploit this or does it not matter?

[sandboxgod]

 excellent info 

[sandboxgod]

megabeast37215 wrote...

UnknownMercenary wrote...

I thought people knew this months ago.

Yeah I saw a random exploiting this a few months back. Just never gotten around to using it much myself due to challenges etc

[sobit]

HOLY F*CKING ****!
YES!
HELL YES!!
HELL!!
****ING!!!
YES!!!

Incendiary ammo is now officially the absolute coolest sh*t in ME3MP.

I assume to get the most out of it you need a high dps, high rof weapon? or do you get good results with guns like the highlord claymore as well?