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[Tchos]

Well, they're technically tintable, like all of the placeables here, but you won't be able to make bronzed or tanned jugs, due to the dark base colours.

Anyway, more placeables.  In PJ's thread I already showed this one, but here it is again, to keep them all together.  Unless I've forgotten any, this thread has screenshots of every completed placeable in this package.  As mentioned there, I cobbled this roast pig on platter together from several Witcher placeables, including a pig on a spit, a platter that formerly held a mostly-stripped carcass, and some fruits.

Here's the pig on a spit, as well as the placeable called "toolhang01", which does not contain tools unless you count the ropes, but it does have a better-looking hanging item of clothing than the hanging clothes from last time.  This one looks like a work apron, I think.

And here's the hoe.  It came out smaller than I think a hoe should be, and I don't know why, since I used the same scaling I've been using for all of these.  The one on the right is scaled up to 1.42, which looks more like what I would expect, with Aldanon standing nearby for scale reference.  But I'm not a farmer or gardener, so I don't know if that smaller size is practical for doing work.

The original model was made for holding in the hand, of course, not as a placeable, so it was straight upright with the head on top, and not much use for area decoration, so I tilted this one to rest against a wall and rotated it for the head to be on the ground.  I could make other rotation variants, but I don't want to make too many and have to reserve more 2DA space if I run over my current 2DA range reservation.  But if there are certain rotations that would be more useful than this, or that would be useful in addition, I could make some.

Also in the hoe screenshot is a decorative urn.  I had to replace the normal map on that one, since the original one was pure black, and caused the placeable to be in permanent shadow.

[Dann-J]

A halfling-sized hoe perhaps?

The straight up-and-down version with the head at the top would be useful as an equippable model, or as another handy VFX, if the scale was appropriate. There is a raking animation for humanoids in the game, but unfortunately the only equippable rake model is pointing in the wrong direction, with the tines upward instead of down. The same animation could be used for hoeing.

Modifié par DannJ, 20 janvier 2014 - 01:45 .

[Tchos]

I haven't done anything with equippable objects, so I don't know if there's anything extra I need to do to make those work, but I'll look at the rake model and see if I can fix its orientation. If so, then I can use it as a guide to the size and orientation for the hoe, so you can add both to the Handy VFX.

Edit: What's the name of the rake model?  I don't see any when I filter for the word "rake".

Modifié par Tchos, 20 janvier 2014 - 01:51 .

[Tchos]

Still need to know the name of the rake model, if I'm to find it.

In the meantime, the theme is things with wheels.

Two wagons
A wheelbarrow and a couple of mine carts

[MokahTGS]

Are these new additions available? I need to write a side quest involving the hoe and the pig.

[kevL]

o.O

[Tchos]

Let me get 12 more done, and then I can get the version number up to .3something and release that.

[andysks]

The wagons will be used excessively by me. Awesome additions Tchos. I am really thankful that you took the project again.

[Dann-J]

Tchos wrote...

I haven't done anything with equippable objects, so I don't know if there's anything extra I need to do to make those work, but I'll look at the rake model and see if I can fix its orientation. If so, then I can use it as a guide to the size and orientation for the hoe, so you can add both to the Handy VFX.

Edit: What's the name of the rake model?  I don't see any when I filter for the word "rake".

It's called i_rake01.mdb. Most of the equippable non-weapon items tend to start with i_.

[rjshae]

DannJ wrote...

A halfling-sized hoe perhaps?

The straight up-and-down version with the head at the top would be useful as an equippable model, or as another handy VFX, if the scale was appropriate. There is a raking animation for humanoids in the game, but unfortunately the only equippable rake model is pointing in the wrong direction, with the tines upward instead of down. The same animation could be used for hoeing.

Maybe a mop too some day? 

Tchos wrote...

Still need to know the name of the rake model, if I'm to find it.

In the meantime, the theme is things with wheels.

Two wagons
A wheelbarrow and a couple of mine carts

Very nice!

Modifié par rjshae, 23 janvier 2014 - 12:46 .

[Dann-J]

The animation would work with a broom as well.

[Tchos]

There is a broom in the resources as well.  This one is bigger than the hoe, and I didn't have to scale it up.  It's even bigger than the scaled-up hoe.

Two banners.  There are several more styles of banner, all with the Flaming Rose symbol, which would make them of limited use as they are, but anyone who can just change the texture's picture to whatever they want will have more options for banner styles.

Here are the rest of the hay bed models (2).  The first one was done in a previous release, but it's the one that's pushed up against a wall instead of lying flat.  This includes a variant that has some branches underneath it.  Also in the picture is a branch model, which uses the same texture as the ones under the bed.

Another barrel, bucket, and bench.  Nothing special, and nothing we don't already have, but I got them out of the way since they were easy to do.

3 bed variants with different mattresses.  One uses the hay bed texture.

A pile of very large cards.

An iron barred door with a lock.  It's a placeable, but the pivot point is on the hinges, you can script it to rotate open if you can manage to get that to happen smoothly.

A grappling hook with a very long rope.  This one was a surprise to me, because its preview image showed something completely different.

Birdcages.  I made three variants.  One with just the cage, one with the cage and the swing on the inside, and one with a bird sitting on the swing.  The bird is not animated, so I would use one of the VFX birds and put it on the swing, if it fit.

This should be enough for a release.  See here soon.

[Tchos]

Here is the Witcher Placeable Conversion project v0.303 (260 placeables)

As I make variants for objects, I must necessarily amend the 2DA file to accomodate them.  This means that you need to update your 2DAs if you're using any of these items already.  When I make these changes, I do not change the position of the existing placeables, so if you're using any of the ones that were available already, they will still work when you update the 2DA.

When I do this, I take over objects that I had previously marked as "NULL_" in the appearance names.  These are items that I discovered to be duplicates of other items, or otherwise undesirable items, after I had already made the 2DA.  If PJ did not made blueprints for these NULL items, then blueprints will have to be made for the new items that take over their slots.  If he did make blueprints for them, then they'll need to be renamed to match what's there now.

Also temporarily included, though it's not a Witcher item, is the fixed stock rake that I just corrected, with its tines pointing down when it is used.  This is in there primarily because I used this module to test it.  Dann, you should take it to use in your handy VFX.  I named the file w_staff10.mdb so that I could give it to Aldanon as a quarterstaff, because when I made it a "rake" item, the game complains that even a human-sized creature is too small to equip the item.  A problem -- the model is not retaining the smoothing that I'm applying to the shaft.  Why?  All of the other items keep their smoothing, but when I bring this one into the toolset, it's blocky again.

All new placeables are placed in a new interior area (interior3), for easier reference.  If you start a new game with this module folder, it will start you in the new interior.  Or, you can just open it in the toolset.

For anyone who wants to make further requests on particular placeables to do sooner than later, please refer to the thumbnail gallery.  (Also, let me know if there's any problem viewing this gallery.)  By clicking on any of the thumbnails, you should see the name of the file at the bottom left of the screen.  Tell me this filename for your request.

Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any way to force the Dropbox albums to sort the files alphabetically (it wants to sort "photos" by the date they're "taken"), so they're all completely scattered out of order.

Modifié par Tchos, 23 janvier 2014 - 11:42 .

[andysks]

Good job Tchos. The gallery is superb as well, and I can view it with no problems. As I was browsing through, what is the deal with ob_l08anim3a? It seems like stairs, but the anim on the name confused me. If it's actually stairs, can it have a walkmesh on it, I mean like the balconies have... from the start. I have no idea how people model stuff, and therefore this is just an inquiry. I don't know if it's hard to do, or even possible. Cheers .

[Tchos]

It is stairs, and I would guess it has the "anim" in the name because it contains an animation of the stairs crumbling and falling down. However, I cannot preserve this animation when I convert it to a NWN2 object, because as I understand it, MDBs do not contain animations. The animation would have to be converted to a skeleton somehow, which would be applied to an object that's prepared in some way to accept that skeleton. I don't have experience in that process.

A walkmesh could indeed be applied to the stairs right into the MDB so that they would be like the balconies. Bob Hall has been making some placeables with included walkmeshes recently, but I've only made one partially successful experiment with that sort of thing.

[rjshae]

I can take a shot at adding a walkmesh. Seem to have the hang of it now.

[andysks]

I only asked because applying a walkmesh helper on them could prove a headache, or actually impossible given their bendy structure. Maybe with the expansion from Bob, but still. If you would try it, now that you got the grip as you said , would be an awesome addition.

[Tchos]

Well, here it is, then.  At your leisure, Bob.

[andysks]

I went through the Library, and wanted to point out some of them. Not particularly for my purposes, but mostly models that I have never seen elsewhere, or more elaborate versions of some stock resources.

ob_l08anim_1b_b
ob_roast02
ob_sarc02
ob_iguanamag01
ob_mirrorsal01
ob_wedstuff05
ob_snag03
ob_stump01
ob_beehives01
ob_throne_01
ob_skelepart01
ob_l01obsta08
ob_skelemon01

This was a quick scroll down of course. I am sure all of the models in there deserve to see release, but these ones I mention got my attention the most.

[Dann-J]

Tchos wrote...

Also temporarily included, though it's not a Witcher item, is the fixed stock rake that I just corrected, with its tines pointing down when it is used.  This is in there primarily because I used this module to test it.  Dann, you should take it to use in your handy VFX.  I named the file w_staff10.mdb so that I could give it to Aldanon as a quarterstaff, because when I made it a "rake" item, the game complains that even a human-sized creature is too small to equip the item.

Nice work, Tchos.

It sounds like there's a problem in baseitems.2DA. Since the rake item didn't make it into the finished game, that's not so suprising.

[Edit: weapon size is set to ****, which the game probably doesn't understand. I'd probably set it to medium (3) so anyone can equip it]

That won't be a problem as a 'Handy VFX' though. They're really just smoke-and-mirrors. Although having it as an equippable item (preferably not a two-hander though, so gnomes and halflings aren't excluded) would allow peasants to use it as a weapon. Especially if their name happens to be Pigsy.

Modifié par DannJ, 23 janvier 2014 - 10:05 .

[PJ156]

Ahhhh monkey!

I am just integrating these models now. I had done utp's for the null files and for the other new items. I have just seen that this did not extend to the house model you did so I will fix that too.

Can I just confirm that the only new placeable (outside of the original 2da) is the rake and the bird cage options? or have you worked exclusivly with NULL locations on this update?

PJ

Modifié par PJ156, 23 janvier 2014 - 10:35 .

[Tchos]

Dann: You know, I've still never sat down and watched any version of the original Journey to the West. I've just seen the characters appear in other things. I'll see about making wieldable brooms and hoes, too, since the rake came out well enough despite the smoothing issue.

PJ: The rake doesn't require a 2DA entry, because it's not a placeable. Weapons use a standard naming convention that allows you to add more without any 2DA editing.

All of the new placeables that were not already in the 2DA are occupying slots formerly occupied by NULL items. There are no new numbers used.

[kamal_]

If you make them as a "quarterstaff" appearance like the shovel headed staff, then my commoner ai will handle rakes/brooms as two handers automatically for halflings/gnomes.

[Tchos]

Yes, it is a quarterstaff.

And here's the hoe in action.  (Also as a quarterstaff.)  I switched to Shandra because Aldanon's robe was obscuring some of the model.

[Dann-J]

These are just the sort of things angry villagers need to wave about while storming a nearby ruined castle, where a mad scientist/mage is creating unholy abominations. We already have sickles, scythes and axes, and flaming torches. Equippable pitchforks would be the icing on the cake!