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[Althix]

oh Cortez is nice. But i like daoa Anders as well.

[sandalisthemaker]

almostinsane99 wrote...

As for your first statement.. I don't know. Don't want to go into real world issues in the games; there's enough of that in real life. Don't want it taking over the plot of the game. Basically, I like the tried and true Bioware formula. I'm hesitant about changing it. But, I don't think we're in any danger of that happening.

Basically, I just want to enjoy the game. Romance is an important part, but only a part.

I pretty much agree with you. Good story-telling and great characters are what I am most looking forward to in DA3.
Romances aren't going to take over. Bioware said romance will not be a bigger or smaller part of the game than they have been.
But in regards to homosexuality, I applaud bioware for including it in their games. It is a contested "issue" but they include it anyway. Gays exist in real life, so having gays in videogames makes sense.  It is important for me to see positive representation of gays in the media. Cortez is a great character. There is more to him than just being gay.  I adore him, and would like to see more characters, both minor and major, like him in the future.

Modifié par sandalisthemaker, 27 avril 2013 - 08:19 .

[Senya]

Alright, then I agree with you there. I like well-written characters, gay or straight.

I also have some reservation about everyone being playersexual, though. I liked Cortez only liking guys, for example, and Garrus only liking girls. It's more realistic. Though, I can see there being bi characters. But everyone being bi seems lazy.

Does that make sense? If not, well, it's not really that big a deal to me.

Modifié par almostinsane99, 27 avril 2013 - 08:25 .

[Solmanian]

Well, EA claims that it got voted "worst company in america" mostly because conservative groups encouraged people to ban its products and vote for it for featuring same sex relationship. As much as we all hate EA, and the "people hate us because we're liberal champions of freedom and democracy" argument is kinda weak, they aren't completly wrong about this. There are alot more conservative religious nut jobs than there are disgruntled gamers...

[Senya]

Hmm... I don't know. EA is pretty bad:

I'd like to see the voting records before making a decision either way. It also says here Reddit, which is rather liberal, joined the furor: http://www.forbes.co...-america-again/

Modifié par almostinsane99, 27 avril 2013 - 08:32 .

[Mr.Sink123]

In what country is homosexuality still a subject of discussion?

[sandalisthemaker]

almostinsane99 wrote...

Alright, then I agree with you there. I like well-written characters, gay or straight.

I also have some reservation about everyone being playersexual, though. I liked Cortez only liking guys, for example, and Garrus only liking girls. It's more realistic. Though, I can see there being bi characters. But everyone being bi seems lazy.

Does that make sense? If not, well, it's not really that big a deal to me.

I have no issue with characters being "playersexual."
But I'm coming from a different angle. As a gay guy, I've simply had to deal with very little in the way of representation in the media. Heterosexuality is everywhere, and homosexuality is either ignored or treated unfavorably. It is only recently that gays have been having postitive media representation. 
Basically what I'm saying is that having characters who are "player sexual" is better for me than having characters who are hetero only.
I wouldn't have a problem with set sexualities as long as there are gay romance options as well as straight ones.

[sandalisthemaker]

Mr.Sink123 wrote...

In what country is homosexuality still a subject of discussion?

The USA for starters.
You must be a troll.

[AlanC9]

DinoSteve wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Sometimes I can't tell if you're serious, but it seems pretty likely that you are. You don't have to be a genius to figure out that the only reason a thread like this exists is for one of the following reasons. The OP is...

• An attention-seeking troll.
• A homophobic bigot.
• All of the above.

I think anyone who's been here a while knows that threads like these are generally intended to stir up trouble, and I'm guessing  that the OP is just a troll.

Or they really might be genuine.

[*]I think AtreiyaN7's  second bullet point was that he might be a genuine homophobic bigot.

[Fredward]

God the BSN is painfully easy to troll.


Also I hope ya'll were reporting the guy because he's a stupidly obvious troll and not because he asked a question. Free speech is still technically legal. Now I'd start to get worried if companies actually paid attention to petitions signed by a bunch of middle-aged religious conservatives.

[Mr.Sink123]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Mr.Sink123 wrote...

In what country is homosexuality still a subject of discussion?

The USA for starters.
You must be a troll.

Im a troll because i dont know the social problems of every country?
You seem to have a very egocentric world view.

Modifié par Mr.Sink123, 27 avril 2013 - 08:42 .

[Senya]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

almostinsane99 wrote...

Alright, then I agree with you there. I like well-written characters, gay or straight.

I also have some reservation about everyone being playersexual, though. I liked Cortez only liking guys, for example, and Garrus only liking girls. It's more realistic. Though, I can see there being bi characters. But everyone being bi seems lazy.

Does that make sense? If not, well, it's not really that big a deal to me.

I have no issue with characters being "playersexual."
But I'm coming from a different angle. As a gay guy, I've simply had to deal with very little in the way of representation in the media. Heterosexuality is everywhere, and homosexuality is either ignored or treated unfavorably. It is only recently that gays have been having postitive media representation. 
Basically what I'm saying is that having characters who are "player sexual" is better for me than having characters who are hetero only.
I wouldn't have a problem with set sexualities as long as there are gay romance options as well as straight ones.

Hm... you have a point. We will have to see what works.

Modifié par almostinsane99, 27 avril 2013 - 08:42 .

[AlanC9]

 As for whether he is a troll or not, beats me, but a quick googling turned up this :

The gay agenda is:

1. Constant media coverage of gay issues (turn on CNN.com, there are at least 2 stories about homosexuals a week)
2. The squelching of disagreement by accusations of "bigot", "hate mongeror", "ignorant", "trolling"
3. Media portrayal of the gay lifestyle so that it becomes more acceptable (TV shows, teaching "inclusivity" to young childrenk, etc)
4. Piggy backing homosexual agenda on to the civil rights movement
5. And on and on

So he's not homophobic. He just doesn't want to see positive portrayals of homosexuality. Or discussions of homosexuality. Or rights for homosexuals. Or any disagreement with these views.

OF course, this just could be a repetition of a workable trolling strategy.

Modifié par AlanC9, 27 avril 2013 - 08:45 .

[Blackrising]

I...I just..



I'm just gonna leave and not come back until I don't feel the overwhelming urge to punch you in the face.

[Althix]

Solmanian wrote...
 EA claims

hold on and stop it right there. ea claims many things. like those researches that gave them idea to sell bullets for real  money.

i mean honestly my dear bsn consider this - in games we kill, murder, slaughter, maim, burn and desecrate. and it's OK. but same sex relationships in games is omfg bad? really? really? really-really?

[sandalisthemaker]

Mr.Sink123 wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Mr.Sink123 wrote...

In what country is homosexuality still a subject of discussion?

The USA for starters.
You must be a troll.

Im a troll because i dont know the social problems of every country?
You seem to have a very egocentric world view.

Sorry, but if you aren't a troll, I find it absolutely unbelievable that someone would not have any clue about how divisive the subject of homosexuality is. Where are you from? 
*Still think you are a troll*

[Mr.Sink123]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Mr.Sink123 wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Mr.Sink123 wrote...

In what country is homosexuality still a subject of discussion?

The USA for starters.
You must be a troll.

Im a troll because i dont know the social problems of every country?
You seem to have a very egocentric world view.

Sorry, but if you aren't a troll, I find it absolutely unbelievable that someone would not have any clue about how divisive the subject of homosexuality is. Where are you from? 
*Still think you are a troll*

Im from Germany and i find it absolutely unbelievable that someone would not have any clue about how 1990 the subject of homosexuality is.

[sandalisthemaker]

Mr.Sink123 wrote...

Im from Germany and i find it absolutely unbelievable that someone would not have any clue about how 1990 the subject of homosexuality is.

Troll confirmed.
Homosexuality is a 2013 issue.

[M Hedonist]

I'd say in most European countries there's a pretty laid-back attitude towards homosexuality. There's a city in Germany that's notoriously being made fun of for having a large amount of homosexuals. In Germany, anyway.

[ImperatorMortis]

 HAHAHAHA!! The second I saw the thread title I just knew this thread was going to be gold.

[Fredward]

Sauruz wrote...

I'd say in most European countries there's a pretty laid-back attitude towards homosexuality. There's a city in Germany that's notoriously being made fun of for having a large amount of homosexuals. In Germany, anyway.

Just not enough to actually legalize gay marriage in most places...

Even 'Merica is streets ahead in that regard.

EDIT: Funnily enough Germany is one of the places that hasn't legalized it yet.

Modifié par Foopydoopydoo, 27 avril 2013 - 09:16 .

[Annie_Dear]

Crypticqa wrote...

This cant end well...

I know right?

[Solmanian]

Well there are still plenty of countries where it's a crime punishable by death. Mind you they also consider under age hand holding in public punishable by death. And also some of them actually execute teens who get bad test scores (it's considered a crime against the state), because when you don't live in a democracy you can't tell the government that darwinism is not a good approach to education...

Gernany is one of the most liberal countries around, even by european standards, and especially on sexual issues. Assuming that the entire world is like that is incredibly naive. There are large portions of the world that still live by a medieval way of thinking, and electricity and running water don't automatically "uplift" a civilization.

[Medhia Nox]

What I'd like to know - is where is the petition against heterosexuals?

I can't tell you how inconvenient it is to be a culture maker - great thinker - artist - military genius for the breeding stock of our species. Science has made the one thing straight folks were good at... obsolete.

Note: No, I'm not serious. Some of my closest friends are obsolete.

[M Hedonist]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

I'd say in most European countries there's a pretty laid-back attitude towards homosexuality. There's a city in Germany that's notoriously being made fun of for having a large amount of homosexuals. In Germany, anyway.

Just not enough to actually legalize gay marriage in most places...

Even 'Merica is streets ahead in that regard.

Is it really?
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Most parts of Europe have a special, separate institution for homosexual marriage (which has less perks than heterosexual marriage), but I'd still say America has a longer way to go.

Anyway, I'd say this is more of a social issue rather than a political one.

Modifié par Sauruz, 27 avril 2013 - 09:24 .