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****Turian Cabal Vanguard In-Depth**** by Megabeast37215 and Caineghis2500


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#101
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billy the squid wrote...

ERMHA Gad!!! It's been too long without another evidence thread! Please Stardusk doo eeet! Then all the guys can join in for an epic bromance!


Leave it alone, Billy. It was my fault for even responding to that comment in this thread... I should have taken it to PM from the start, something I have now rectified.

This is a good thread with Cain and MegaBeast doing a good thing for the community. I do not want to see that derailed/destroyed by devolving into a flame thread. Especially not because of anything I said; I would be mortified if that happened.

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I like the Cabal but honestly I just end up running her as a weapons platform so I don't bother.

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Stardusk wrote...

I like the Cabal but honestly I just end up running her as a weapons platform so I don't bother.


I kinda fell into that rut with the Cabal too but I think the melee build could be a good change of pace.

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cato_84 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

I like the Cabal but honestly I just end up running her as a weapons platform so I don't bother.


I kinda fell into that rut with the Cabal too but I think the melee build could be a good change of pace.


Melee looks good but seems limited to Gold (then again, all melee is).

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Stardusk wrote...

cato_84 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

I like the Cabal but honestly I just end up running her as a weapons platform so I don't bother.


I kinda fell into that rut with the Cabal too but I think the melee build could be a good change of pace.


Melee looks good but seems limited to Gold (then again, all melee is).


Pretty much.... only Krolord and Kroguard melee is good enough for Platinum. I'd take 75% of the kits in the game into Platinum before I'd take her... Nightshade Blades aren't particularly useful on Platinum either.

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Air Quotes wrote...

Good guide. But Acolyte makes everything good or even godly.


So does the Harrier, Hurricane, Wraith, Claymore, Reegar, Talon, PPR, Javelin, CSR, CSMG, etc. etc. etc.

Good guns are good.

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megabeast37215 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Good guide. But Acolyte makes everything good or even godly.


So does the Harrier, Hurricane, Wraith, Claymore, Reegar, Talon, PPR, Javelin, CSR, CSMG, etc. etc. etc.

Good guns are good.

 

Most of those have pretty big drawbacks. Weight, ammo and so on. Acolyte has none of that and does all important things. 

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Air Quotes wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Good guide. But Acolyte makes everything good or even godly.


So does the Harrier, Hurricane, Wraith, Claymore, Reegar, Talon, PPR, Javelin, CSR, CSMG, etc. etc. etc.

Good guns are good.

 

Most of those have pretty big drawbacks. Weight, ammo and so on. Acolyte has none of that and does all important things. 


It has that whole "totally worthless against armor" thing going against it Image IPB but otherwise... yeah, you're right.

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megabeast37215 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

cato_84 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

I like the Cabal but honestly I just end up running her as a weapons platform so I don't bother.


I kinda fell into that rut with the Cabal too but I think the melee build could be a good change of pace.


Melee looks good but seems limited to Gold (then again, all melee is).


Pretty much.... only Krolord and Kroguard melee is good enough for Platinum. I'd take 75% of the kits in the game into Platinum before I'd take her... Nightshade Blades aren't particularly useful on Platinum either.


Have you tried soloing Platinum with the Krolord? It is hard as hell, I tried 3 times and got fed up with it. Melee is unfortunately limited in this game.

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Have you tried soloing Platinum with the Krolord? It is hard as hell, I tried 3 times and got fed up with it. Melee is unfortunately limited in this game.


I've only ever attempted 3 Plat solos... two wave 8 deaths and a "OMG WTF" wave 2 sync kill out of nowhere... it's just not my thing... I hang in there too long and try to finish enemies when I should run away.

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Superb guide. Love the first build. I previously deemed the points to get to rank 6 of poison strike worth it, but I don't think it is any more. Maybe on other characters it would be, but on her, the points are better spent elsewhere.

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As you can tell from watching Caineghis play at the end, melee is still not the best option.

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landylan wrote...

As you can tell from watching Caineghis play at the end, melee is still not the best option.


Not for crowds/bosses it isn't... for 1-3 mooks... it's hard to beat. Anything that can OSK is always a viable option...

Stunlocking a Phantom to death with wolverine style light melee spam is extremely rewarding...

Besides... not every build should be a min/max Platinum build... that makes an old game no fun. Fun + Variety > Min/Max

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megabeast37215 wrote...

landylan wrote...

As you can tell from watching Caineghis play at the end, melee is still not the best option.


Not for crowds/bosses it isn't... for 1-3 mooks... it's hard to beat. Anything that can OSK is always a viable option...

Stunlocking a Phantom to death with wolverine style light melee spam is extremely rewarding...

Besides... not every build should be a min/max Platinum build... that makes an old game no fun. Fun + Variety > Min/Max

True. I agree with that, but the acolyte incendiary thing is a little over-used and boring now.

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Great video! Finally, someone that can make a compelling case for her. Will try the meele build as I have plenty of weapon platform specialists already.

Please keep up the good work!

Look forward to your next video..

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landylan wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

landylan wrote...

As you can tell from watching Caineghis play at the end, melee is still not the best option.


Not for crowds/bosses it isn't... for 1-3 mooks... it's hard to beat. Anything that can OSK is always a viable option...

Stunlocking a Phantom to death with wolverine style light melee spam is extremely rewarding...

Besides... not every build should be a min/max Platinum build... that makes an old game no fun. Fun + Variety > Min/Max

True. I agree with that, but the acolyte incendiary thing is a little over-used and boring now.


I mentioned this earlier... I only use that technique on 3 kits... Novaguard, Slayer, Cabal... that leaves 60 other kits (none of whom have the Acolyte equipped).

Modifié par megabeast37215, 28 avril 2013 - 06:52 .


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megabeast37215 wrote...

landylan wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

landylan wrote...

As you can tell from watching Caineghis play at the end, melee is still not the best option.


Not for crowds/bosses it isn't... for 1-3 mooks... it's hard to beat. Anything that can OSK is always a viable option...

Stunlocking a Phantom to death with wolverine style light melee spam is extremely rewarding...

Besides... not every build should be a min/max Platinum build... that makes an old game no fun. Fun + Variety > Min/Max

True. I agree with that, but the acolyte incendiary thing is a little over-used and boring now.


I mentioned this earlier... I only use that technique on 3 kits... Novaguard, Slayer, Cabal... that leaves 60 other kits (none of whom have the Acolyte equipped).

I'm not talking about how you use the acolyte. I've used it on pretty much all my kits, and it's amazing on all them. 

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it is interesting how i play this class somewhere in the between the two builds you shared. I move around a lot more like the melee build, but it is much more similar to the soldier build.

I also used Poison Strike for some crowd control situations (2-3 enemies).

cool stuff, hopefully we'll see some more cabals online, and/or show everyone how the cabal is far from worthless on Gold+


EDIT: I like the executioner pistol (only) on my cabal as well, it's very fun. Acolyte + Hurricane is a great combo.

Modifié par Grammaton Dryad, 28 avril 2013 - 07:40 .


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I enjoy the class allot even with it's singular flaw

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i dont like the kit. very clunky off host and without grenade gear 5, NB are useless.

disappointing.

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Nice builds and great video as always, I tried a build similar to the first one, with a slight difference (rank 4 NB with capacity, rank 4 fitness shields), but I can't overcome the problem with the heavy melee tracking off host...most of the times I end up slicing the air while I get slaughtered by marauders/collector captains/dragoons... :\\

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i dont like the kit. very clunky off host and without grenade gear 5, NB are useless.

disappointing.


Not true at all. I run that build with 2 Nightshade Blades and it's plenty. The rare times I ever feel the need for more (usually wave 10) I just pop a thermal clip pack and get two more. We all have hundreds of those anyway right?

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I suppose thats right but the kit requires constant micromanagement of all three powers. I guess im simply not at the level to be able to do that. Charge acolyte, turn on biotic focus, shooot acolyte, shoot nb, ps, melee ... too much. And eventhen melee and ps tracking isnt that great.

its safe to use her against banshees though but not if brutes are around.

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Did you know femal Turian models were based on the male Turian models?

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spoon full:D

Modifié par caineghis2500, 28 avril 2013 - 10:08 .