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Filament wrote...

Maybe they could try a different formula this time and not market another dudebro protagonist with a 'main' female LI.



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Wait what?First of Isabella wasn't cruel nor evil.And you could argue about her being selfish.Morrigan and Isabella were used only for advertisment,and we're not the 'main romance' in any of the games.Isabella wasn't even a nesecarry companion.I'd say the main romance in origins was Alistar(because he moved the plot and you could be queen) and the main romance in DA2 was Anders because he was the only one who persistenly wants to hook up even after you say NO.I say that neither Morrigan or Isabella were forced on you,or were main romances,or were 'evil.And about the big boobs thing??Umm just because she has big boobs doesn't mean she has to be the main romance.

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sandalisthemaker wrote...

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Why do you care who the "main" LI is, anyway?

I'm happy with Leliana/Merrill for my characters. I like Isabela too - though I don't think she's particularly "main", you can play the game without ever meeting her after all.


She is the main LI.
I would go so far as to call her the cannon LI.
Just look at the DA2 trailers.

Would it have being better if Hawke had a girl on each arm?. Had Merrill and Isabela fawning over him?. Or it would have being easier if him was Johnny no mates in the trailer.

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I don't think there's usually a "main" female LI who impacts overarching events in a significant way - Morrigan seems like a very special case with the OGB. EDIT: There is Anders too, of course - but he's a male LI. I'm deleting Alistair after thinking about it because I'm doubtful of his long-term impact on anything.

In any case, I think there should be a variety of personality types - and that includes LIs that some might find disagreeable. If events demand that a disagreeable LI has a more significant role in the DA universe than others, well, too bad.

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Filament wrote...
Maybe they could try a different formula this time and not market another dudebro protagonist with a 'main' female LI.

Why are some here so opposed to the honorable "dubebro" race. Since ancient times the dudebro people have maintainted the bro code and never backed down from a fight or a party. They deserve more respect than this.

In an RPG with character customization you still market to the largest group of players.

Modifié par Inquisitor Recon, 28 avril 2013 - 08:02 .


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XM-417 wrote...

 it would have being easier if him was Johnny no mates in the trailer.


This

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Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Filament wrote...
Maybe they could try a different formula this time and not market another dudebro protagonist with a 'main' female LI.

Why are some here so opposed to the honorable "dubebro" race. Since ancient times the dudebro people have maintainted the bro code and never backed down from a fight or a party. They deserve more respect than this.

In an RPG with character customization you still market to the largest group of players.

What this clopper said.

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HeriocGreyWarden wrote...

Wait what?First of Isabella wasn't cruel nor evil.And you could argue about her being selfish.Morrigan and Isabella were used only for advertisment,and we're not the 'main romance' in any of the games.Isabella wasn't even a nesecarry companion.I'd say the main romance in origins was Alistar(because he moved the plot and you could be queen) and the main romance in DA2 was Anders because he was the only one who persistenly wants to hook up even after you say NO.I say that neither Morrigan or Isabella were forced on you,or were main romances,or were 'evil.And about the big boobs thing??Umm just because she has big boobs doesn't mean she has to be the main romance.


Hence the and/or.
Isabela is definitely selfish.
I'm talking about main Female LI's not male.
Yes, Alistair was the main Male LI in DA. I agree with you.
The big boobs thing is more about why she is all over the promo material.

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J. Reezy wrote...

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Filament wrote...
Maybe they could try a different formula this time and not market another dudebro protagonist with a 'main' female LI.

Why are some here so opposed to the honorable "dubebro" race. Since ancient times the dudebro people have maintainted the bro code and never backed down from a fight or a party. They deserve more respect than this.

In an RPG with character customization you still market to the largest group of players.

What this clopper said.


What Chinese Electric Batman said.

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Hawke was a dudebro? Nah, he doesn't come close to the ultimate video game dudebro-- the Duke Nukem dudebro standard.

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Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Filament wrote...
Maybe they could try a different formula this time and not market another dudebro protagonist with a 'main' female LI.

Why are some here so opposed to the honorable "dubebro" race. Since ancient times the dudebro people have maintainted the bro code and never backed down from a fight or a party. They deserve more respect than this.

In an RPG with character customization you still market to the largest group of players.


Yes. Yes.
All bow to the almighty dudebro.
*Yawn*
I would love to see a DA3  that doesn't cater to the dudebro in any way shape or form.
Not going to happen, but one can dream.

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sandalisthemaker wrote...
Yes. Yes.
All bow to the almighty dudebro.
*Yawn*
I would love to see a DA3  that doesn't cater to the dudebro in any way shape or form.
Not going to happen, but one can dream.


When will this blatant discrimination against the dudebro race be stopped? Did you know there is a 8.3% chance that you are also part dudebro?

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So Basically..... you haven't met this Li and you already want her to be your waifu. Question, have you heard of catfish? It is basically when you have an internet girlfriend and she is really a fat neckbeard in his early 40s.

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sandalisthemaker wrote...

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Filament wrote...
Maybe they could try a different formula this time and not market another dudebro protagonist with a 'main' female LI.

Why are some here so opposed to the honorable "dubebro" race. Since ancient times the dudebro people have maintainted the bro code and never backed down from a fight or a party. They deserve more respect than this.

In an RPG with character customization you still market to the largest group of players.


Yes. Yes.
All bow to the almighty dudebro.
*Yawn*
I would love to see a DA3  that doesn't cater to the dudebro in any way shape or form.
Not going to happen, but one can dream.


Wait wait wait. You think that DA2 catered to the dudebro? And DA3 will follow that line?

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Y'all people is stupid. Obviously, the desire demon who possessed Connor in DA:O should be the main female LI in DA:I.

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Y'all people is stupid. Obviously, the desire demon who possessed Connor in DA:O should be the main female LI in DA:I.


11/10 would definitely bang.

Edit:

Recon, if we got twilight sparkle in DA3 for a LI would, you bang?

Modifié par billy the squid, 28 avril 2013 - 08:18 .


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Inquisitor Recon wrote...


When will this blatant discrimination against the dudebro race be stopped? Did you know there is a 8.3% chance that you are also part dudebro?


Lmao.
Silly Dudebro. You are never discriminated against. The game industry is madly in love with you.
And No. I am most certainly not a dudebro.

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Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Filament wrote...
Maybe they could try a different formula this time and not market another dudebro protagonist with a 'main' female LI.

Why are some here so opposed to the honorable "dubebro" race. Since ancient times the dudebro people have maintainted the bro code and never backed down from a fight or a party. They deserve more respect than this.

In an RPG with character customization you still market to the largest group of players.

Of all the things you would defend bioware's practices on, of course it's when they endorse you and your waifu.

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at billythe squid

No I don't think DA2 blatantly catered to them the way most games do.
There were certain elements, but that is to be expected. 

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billy the squid wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

Y'all people is stupid. Obviously, the desire demon who possessed Connor in DA:O should be the main female LI in DA:I.


11/10 would definitely bang.

Edit:

Recon, if we got twilight sparkle in DA3 for a LI would, you bang?

Of course, he's High Lord of Clopestria. And his name is now Brittany.

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I'd prefer if the trailer doesn't focus on an LI element at all and just show a generic protagonist and some well-rendered companions fighting the enemy like DA:O's cinematic trailer.

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Eh. The manner in which a "main" LI is decided seems to be very much a matter of your perception, since the criteria you're using to decide in DA:O (main plot involvement) and DA2 (marketing material) are completely different.
So, I don't know, maybe engage in some mental gymnastics when DA3 comes out. Wish granted!

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Nefario wrote...

Eh. The manner in which a "main" LI is decided seems to be very much a matter of your perception, since the criteria you're using to decide in DA:O (main plot involvement) and DA2 (marketing material) are completely different.
So, I don't know, maybe engage in some mental gymnastics when DA3 comes out. Wish granted!


Well Morrigan is more prominent in Marketing material than Leliana.
Isabela stealing the Qunari tome is the whole reason the Qunari don't leave and it's the straw that broke the camel's back in regards to them attacking Kirkwall in Act 2. Merrill's story line isn't a part of the main plot.

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Filament wrote...
Of all the things you would defend bioware's practices on, of course it's when they endorse you and your waifu.

Ah but I do not have a waifu besides for the broodmother. I am merely defending the oppressed dudebros. When the mead runs low who arrives with another barrel? A dudebro. When you want to impress that hot chick from Tevinter who will be your wingman? A dudebro. When the darkspawn attack the local village who will run out with hammers and pitchforks to aid you? The dudebros.

Some of you may think the dudebros have privilege, no, being a dudebro is a matter of duty. Swearing to uphold the bro code and to sacrifice your sobriety for the greater good.

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Isabela is not evil. She's pretty neutral toward everything. Hell, she got hunted because she freed the slave ship. I feel like she's just someone who doesn't think of the consequences and just go with the flow, someone who is a free spirit. Morrigan is neutral evil while Isabela is truly neutral. Between the bickering between Fenris and Anders, Merrill's airhead, Isabela is a change of pace whenever I bring her with me. Isabela is awesome. I don't want Mr. Gaider to restrict his writing just because certain characters fit into certain archetypes. If it fits the storyline, then Bioware should use whatever characters they feel like.