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[garrusfan1]

Plaintiff wrote...

aryon69 wrote...

Or just drop these stupid romances for more story content.

Replace story content with story content! Genius, why didn't I think of that?!

BRILLIANT

[TMZuk]

Dubozz wrote...

Please do it again.

:D:D this!

Oh, Morrigan, how I adore you! <3:D

Joke aside, the only romances in a Bioware-game from the past five years, that didn't feel like something out of a juvenile TV-series was Morrigan and perhaps Jack.

I'm sick of these wet-tissue "romances" that feels like cut content from Twilight. Morrigan had a brillant story-arc, because her romance tied into the large scale events, and she experiences doubt, insecurity and perhaps even love, but she stays true to herself none the less.

If a romance doesn't add anything to the character involved, or the overall plot, then leave it out, please. It's an RPG, not a dating sim.

Modifié par TMZuk, 01 mai 2013 - 12:22 .

[sandalisthemaker]

TMZuk wrote...

Dubozz wrote...

Please do it again.

:D:D this!

Oh, Morrigan, how I adore you! <3:D

So you want a Morrigan clone for DA3.

Modifié par sandalisthemaker, 01 mai 2013 - 12:15 .

[TMZuk]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

TMZuk wrote...

Dubozz wrote...

Please do it again.

:D:D this!

Oh, Morrigan, how I adore you! <3:D

So you want a Morrigan clone for DA3.

Added a bit to my OP.

[Plaintiff]

TMZuk wrote...
Joke aside, the only romances in a Bioware-game from the past five years, that didn't feel like something out of a juvenile TV-series was Morrigan and perhaps Jack.

I'm sick of these wet-tissue "romances" that feels like cut content from Twilight. Morrigan had a brillant story-arc, because her romance tied into the large scale events, and she experiences doubt, insecurity and perhaps even love, but she stays true to herself none the less.

If a romance doesn't add anything to the character involved, or the overall plot, then leave it out, please. It's an RPG, not a dating sim.

You haven't actually read Twilight, have you.

Jack is the very pinnacle of the angsty teen stereotype, made even more glaring by the fact that she's at least in her early twenties by now. It's like she popped out of a bad fanfiction. "I'M SUPER SPECIAL, NOBODY UNDERSTANDS ME, MY LIFE I SO HARD, I HATE EVERYTHING BAAAAAAAAAAAAAW"

As for Morrigan; I guess no teenager could possibly relate to the oh-so-complex and adult emotions of doubt and insecurity.

[atum]

Plaintiff wrote...


Jack is the very pinnacle of the angsty teen stereotype, made even more glaring by the fact that she's at least in her early twenties by now. It's like she popped out of a bad fanfiction. "I'M SUPER SPECIAL, NOBODY UNDERSTANDS ME, MY LIFE I SO HARD, I HATE EVERYTHING BAAAAAAAAAAAAAW"

In Jack's defense, she actually *was* those things....


I'll toss my hat in with the "there were no main LIs"

Leliana has her own game, a cameo in DA:2, and MotA.

Morrigan had the ritual, (obviously important) and a cameo* in Witch Hunt.  *Well she doesnt show up much in the DLC, anyways.  (To be fair she has a major plot role, but so does Leliana)

Merill and Isabela have (roughly) equally involved side stories.  Though Isabela  does have the best (named) armor upgrade in the game.

Modifié par atum, 01 mai 2013 - 02:33 .

[Direwolf0294]

Plaintiff wrote...

TMZuk wrote...
Joke aside, the only romances in a Bioware-game from the past five years, that didn't feel like something out of a juvenile TV-series was Morrigan and perhaps Jack.

I'm sick of these wet-tissue "romances" that feels like cut content from Twilight. Morrigan had a brillant story-arc, because her romance tied into the large scale events, and she experiences doubt, insecurity and perhaps even love, but she stays true to herself none the less.

If a romance doesn't add anything to the character involved, or the overall plot, then leave it out, please. It's an RPG, not a dating sim.

You haven't actually read Twilight, have you.

Jack is the very pinnacle of the angsty teen stereotype, made even more glaring by the fact that she's at least in her early twenties by now. It's like she popped out of a bad fanfiction. "I'M SUPER SPECIAL, NOBODY UNDERSTANDS ME, MY LIFE I SO HARD, I HATE EVERYTHING BAAAAAAAAAAAAAW"

As for Morrigan; I guess no teenager could possibly relate to the oh-so-complex and adult emotions of doubt and insecurity.

Jack was an angsty teen? Really? I mean, really? She was more like a bikey without a club, just riding around doing whatever she pleased. She had a bad childhood and people treated her bad, but she didn't complain about it. That's just how it was, and she didn't care what anyone thought of her.

If anyone was the angsty teen in Mass Effect in was Miranda, "I'm so perfect but no one understands me and why doesn't my daddy love me?" 

[Solmanian]

I didn't really find Morrigan petty or unneccessarily cruel. She's rarely/never advocate hurting anyone without cause (except alistair...), she's even the one advocating releasing sten from his cage. She mainly strike me as a pragmatically focusing on the "big picture", even less so than sten (who baiscally just keep saying "are we attacking the archdemon yet? No? how about now?". She and sten are the first to voice their opinion against wasting time with side quests when there's a blight going on.

[KiwiQuiche]

If they give me another female LI like Morrigan and Isabela I want to be able to wallop them one. You can knock out Izzie, but that's only for her damn quest.

Hell, I would say Isabela is even worse than Morrigan- at least Morrigan didn't start a war due to her selfish stupidity and greed.

[New Display Name]

Solmanian wrote...

I didn't really find Morrigan petty or unneccessarily cruel. She's rarely/never advocate hurting anyone without cause (except alistair...), she's even the one advocating releasing sten from his cage. She mainly strike me as a pragmatically focusing on the "big picture", even less so than sten (who baiscally just keep saying "are we attacking the archdemon yet? No? how about now?". She and sten are the first to voice their opinion against wasting time with side quests when there's a blight going on.

Doesn't Morrigan get approval (and loses approval if not done) if the Warden has those elven slaves murdered for the sake of getting more power through a blood magic ritual? Sure, you could call getting more power a cause...but murdering those slaves to get it seems petty and cruel to me.

Morrigan also advocates having the mages slaughtered at the circle because she thinks they are weak. That's also petty and cruel.

[BouncyFrag]

KiwiQuiche wrote...

If they give me another female LI like Morrigan and Isabela I want to be able to wallop them one. You can knock out Izzie, but that's only for her damn quest.

Hell, I would say Isabela is even worse than Morrigan- at least Morrigan didn't start a war due to her selfish stupidity and greed.

Hawke should have been able to question Isabela about why she won't go into the Qunari compound. Theres nothing better than a selfish coward to make the streets of Kirwall bathed in blood.
<_<

[KiwiQuiche]

BouncyFrag wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

If they give me another female LI like Morrigan and Isabela I want to be able to wallop them one. You can knock out Izzie, but that's only for her damn quest.

Hell, I would say Isabela is even worse than Morrigan- at least Morrigan didn't start a war due to her selfish stupidity and greed.

Hawke should have been able to question Isabela about why she won't go into the Qunari compound. Theres nothing better than a selfish coward to make the streets of Kirwall bathed in blood.
<_<

Hawke is just incredibly stupid and incompetent by default, hence the lack of general questions and common sense. It's like Bioware delibertly made Hawke a bumbling retard who just screws up at everything.

[BubbleDncr]

robertthebard wrote...
Correction:  If you romance Alistair on your first playthrough, you get to get dumped for him lying to you since Ostagar, and if you do the Redcliffe quest last, he's been lying to you the whole game to that point, deliberately.  But it's your fault, just ask him.  He's so important to me that after I get Sten, he stays in camp the rest of the game, except where the game forces him to show up.

Romance Anders?  I ran him off.  Well, I got ninjamanced once, not paying attention until he moved in, and I was like WTF is this?  So no, he's not a plot essential romance.  Nobody in either game is.

I never said they're plot essential romances - I'm simply saying they're more tied to the main plot than the others. If you romance Alistair or Anders (or Izzy or Morrigan) in your first playthrough, all the big, shocking moments in the plot that involve them hit you harder if you're in a romance with them than if you aren't - in my opinion. And they don't have that same effect if you romance them in your second playthrough because you already know those events are coming.

[New Display Name]

Morrigan may not kill those innocents on her own, but she does argue with the warden to get him/her to do it. That's only marginally better than Morrigan doing it herself alone.