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[Vit246]

Can we just not use Anders anymore and have new characters?

Modifié par Vit246, 29 avril 2013 - 03:06 .

[Monica21]

BlueMagitek wrote...

^ I'm not sure the murder knife managed to take out Morrigan, I fear. :/

It's not a murder knife though. You just attack her and she falls back. Clever developers.

[Boycott Bioware]

Vit246 wrote...
Can we just not use Anders anymore and have new characters?

Pretty much this...considering the time-frame...how old is Anders in DA3 if he is alive?

Surely DA3 taken place not immediately after Kirkwal event, in fact we don't know how long between Hawke is missing and Cassandra interrogating Varric

Hawke maybe the Viscount of Kirkwal, for how long?

Hawke is about 25 when first time in Kirkwal if i am not wrong, Hawke leave Kirkwal or become the Viscount about 32...

if there will be cameos, those cameos are old already

Modifié par Qistina, 29 avril 2013 - 03:25 .

[Vit246]

I just want to move on. His character is over. Its done. Dead end. I never even played Awakening. And I don't care. In any case Anders is now forever polarizing to everybody and I don't want to talk about him anymore.

And I want new spirits. No more Justice/Vengeance.

Modifié par Vit246, 29 avril 2013 - 04:10 .

[Silfren]

Qistina wrote...

Vit246 wrote...
Can we just not use Anders anymore and have new characters?

Pretty much this...considering the time-frame...how old is Anders in DA3 if he is alive?

Surely DA3 taken place not immediately after Kirkwal event, in fact we don't know how long between Hawke is missing and Cassandra interrogating Varric

Hawke maybe the Viscount of Kirkwal, for how long?

Hawke is about 25 when first time in Kirkwal if i am not wrong, Hawke leave Kirkwal or become the Viscount about 32...

if there will be cameos, those cameos are old already

I think Anders is supposed to be around the same age as Hawke at the start of DA2.  Certainly I got the impression in Awakening that he was in his mid to late 20s. 

I think DA3 will take places shortly after Asunder, which itself takes place a year after DA2, I think.  (Hasn't it been said that Cassandra's interrogation of Varric takes place after the events of Asunder?).  If Anders showed up he would be in his 30s or so, early 40s at the most, I think. 

You've got a funny idea of what makes for old.  But maybe that's just 'cuz I'm 36 and I hear people saying that Isabela herself couldn't be more than early 20s in DA2, because OMG  she couldn't POSSIBLY be so OLD as to be in her 30s.

[Lulupab]

Being an abomination is not that bad. I'm quite sure this hawke looks cooler than any other mage hawke existed. Mods make it possible to have Justice/Vengeance inside hawke.

Bigger images here:
http://i.imgur.com/AvvKlfo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/I82la7L.jpg

Modifié par Rassler, 29 avril 2013 - 04:51 .

[TK514]

Not only am I not interested in seeing murder-knifed Anders again, I hope Vengeance is gone forever as we'll.

[Lulupab]

TK514 wrote...

Not only am I not interested in seeing murder-knifed Anders again, I hope Vengeance is gone forever as we'll.

And that is exactly why I said those who killed him shouldn't see him again.

But still even if he appears as zombie or simply vengeance you'll do everything to kill him once and for all, judging from your hate. Anders was a successful character, its argueable but he had the 2nd most important role in DA2, destroying chantry is no simple deed. Even the tevinter didn't dare do such a thing

[Boycott Bioware]

Silfren wrote...
I think Anders is supposed to be around the same age as Hawke at the start of DA2. Certainly I got the impression in Awakening that he was in his mid to late 20s.

I think DA3 will take places shortly after Asunder, which itself takes place a year after DA2, I think. (Hasn't it been said that Cassandra's interrogation of Varric takes place after the events of Asunder?). If Anders showed up he would be in his 30s or so, early 40s at the most, I think.

You've got a funny idea of what makes for old. But maybe that's just 'cuz I'm 36 and I hear people saying that Isabela herself couldn't be more than early 20s in DA2, because OMG she couldn't POSSIBLY be so OLD as to be in her 30s.

Well, i am old myself in a matter of fact lol

Te way Varric tell us about what happen to Hawke companions i think it will be about 2 to 5 years. It is not possible only one year after Kirkwal event. As we can see Hawke estate look abandoned in the last cut scene.

And you must take note that there is no CNN and internet at that time that make the whole Thedas Circle mage rebel

"Hawke is roughly 24 or 25 at the start of Act 1. Gamlen states that
Leandra left with Malcolm 25 years ago and Malcolm states that Leandra
was pregnant when they left. This would mean that by the end of the
game, Hawke is 30-31. "- DA wiki

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Hawke

yes, i am right Hawke is about 25 at Act 1, left Kirkwal or becoming Viscount about 32, so DA3 event Hawke if still alive will be near 35-40. Anders will be around 40

They are OLD lol

Modifié par Qistina, 29 avril 2013 - 05:37 .

[TK514]

Rassler wrote...

And that is exactly why I said those who killed him shouldn't see him again.

But still even if he appears as zombie or simply vengeance you'll do everything to kill him once and for all, judging from your hate. Anders was a successful character, its argueable but he had the 2nd most important role in DA2, destroying chantry is no simple deed. Even the tevinter didn't dare do such a thing

Woah, slow down there.  Who said anything about hate?  We're still talking about a video game character, right?  Sorry, but I don't have so much hate to spare that I can waste it on people who don't exist.

Anyway, I don't want to see his murder knifed self or Vengeance again because they are played out.  That story, and gimmick, has run its course.  Time for something new, instead of rehashing it yet again.  If he isn't dead, I would expect him to be as deep in hiding as he can get for fear of losing it and killing a whole bunch of addition folks, particularly ones he does't want dead.  You might have noticed he wasn't exactly holding it together real well, such as that poor Mage girl he almost murdered.

Modifié par TK514, 29 avril 2013 - 06:47 .

[Lulupab]

TK514 wrote...

Rassler wrote...

And that is exactly why I said those who killed him shouldn't see him again.

But still even if he appears as zombie or simply vengeance you'll do everything to kill him once and for all, judging from your hate. Anders was a successful character, its argueable but he had the 2nd most important role in DA2, destroying chantry is no simple deed. Even the tevinter didn't dare do such a thing

Woah, slow down there.  Who said anything about hate?  We're still talking about a video game character, right?  Sorry, but I don't have so much hate to spare that I can waste it on people who don't exist.

Anyway, I don't want to see his murder knifed self or Vengeance again because they are played out.  That story, and gimmick, has run its course.  Time for something new, instead of rehashing it yet again.  If he isn't dead, I would expect him to be as deep in hiding as he can get for fear of losing it and killing a whole bunch of addition folks, particularly ones he does't want dead.  You might have noticed he wasn't exactly holding it together real well, such as that poor Mage girl he almost murdered.

Well I wasn't serious about the hate part, some characters are meant to be annoying and its natural for people to hate them, if all companions were normal the game would be dull right? Its that hate that we have of some characters that make us like the game more.

[Lulupab]

Qistina wrote...They are OLD lol

Well I dont know about hawke but remember wynne? Age is irrelevant when you have a spirit in you. Same is the case with Anders

Maybe Anders found a way to reverse the effects of tranquility! That would be awesome

Modifié par Rassler, 29 avril 2013 - 07:01 .

[madzilla84]

Rassler wrote...

Maybe Anders found a way to reverse the effects of tranquility! That would be awesome

This was discovered in Asunder - could have interesting implications for the future!

As for Anders, he's pretty much my favourite DA character so naturally I'd love to see him again - on the other hand, I don't know which worries me more, that he won't appear at all or that he will appear and they'll do something even more awful and tragic to him. In that case I suppose I'd rather they didn't bother.

I do think it would be interesting to have an encounter with just Justice if you murdered Anders, though. That might actually get me to do a playthrough in which I kill him.

[Althix]

so op.... i can't side with mages and yet kill Anders? why? i am sure did. Templars or Mages have nothing to do with it.

[Dave of Canada]

BlueMagitek wrote...

^ I'm not sure the murder knife managed to take out Morrigan, I fear. :/

I'm sure having her best friend stab her killed her trust in humanity.

The murder knife's influence will be felt throughout the ages.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 29 avril 2013 - 07:49 .

[Boycott Bioware]

Rassler wrote...
Well I dont know about hawke but remember wynne? Age is irrelevant when you have a spirit in you. Same is the case with Anders

Maybe Anders found a way to reverse the effects of tranquility! That would be awesome

I am not sure Wayne is really old, although she is motherly nagging type of a character and wise appearance, she is quite young in attitude

There is a convo between her and Leliana, but i forgot the whole convo, about her age as i remember, she is not far older than Leliana....ah yes, Leliana age herself is in question

And so Flemeth....

I can't say "spirits in you" have anything to do with it, i say it is the character designer fault lol

Edit : After 7 years, all DA2 characters stay the same...i remember my self 7 years ago, now i have more white hairs....

Modifié par Qistina, 29 avril 2013 - 11:12 .

[Althix]

Qistina wrote...
Edit : After 7 years, all DA2 characters stay the same...i remember my self 7 years ago, now i have more white hairs....

why did you brought this up ? now i am sad

[smallwhippet]

Qistina wrote...

I am not sure Wayne is really old, although she is motherly nagging type of a character and wise appearance, she is quite young in attitude

There is a convo between her and Leliana, but i forgot the whole convo, about her age as i remember, she is not far older than Leliana....ah yes, Leliana age herself is in question

Considering Wynne has a son in his late thirties at the time of Asunder (around 9:38), even if she was as young as 16 at the time of his birth, that would make her nearly 50 at the time of DA:O.
 
Not ancient, obviously, but somewhat older than Leliana, nevertheless...

[Lulupab]

Qistina wrote...

Rassler wrote...
Well I dont know about hawke but remember wynne? Age is irrelevant when you have a spirit in you. Same is the case with Anders

Maybe Anders found a way to reverse the effects of tranquility! That would be awesome

I
am not sure Wayne is really old, although she is motherly nagging type
of a character and wise appearance, she is quite young in attitude

There
is a convo between her and Leliana, but i forgot the whole convo, about
her age as i remember, she is not far older than Leliana....ah yes,
Leliana age herself is in question

And so Flemeth....

I can't say "spirits in you" have anything to do with it, i say it is the character designer fault lol

Edit : After 7 years, all DA2 characters stay the same...i remember my self 7 years ago, now i have more white hairs....

Guys you miss the point, Wynne already died. She died fighting a demon in the circle but before she actually draw her last breath a spirit entered her body and kept her alive ever since. after reaching high approval with her in origins she mentions she will die soon as soon as spirit dies too cause she mentions spirit is old as well.

When it coems to an energitic spirit like vengeance I doubt he will die anytime soon.

Modifié par Rassler, 29 avril 2013 - 01:28 .

[azarhal]

Silfren wrote...

Qistina wrote...

Vit246 wrote...
Can we just not use Anders anymore and have new characters?

Pretty much this...considering the time-frame...how old is Anders in DA3 if he is alive?

Surely DA3 taken place not immediately after Kirkwal event, in fact we don't know how long between Hawke is missing and Cassandra interrogating Varric

Hawke maybe the Viscount of Kirkwal, for how long?

Hawke is about 25 when first time in Kirkwal if i am not wrong, Hawke leave Kirkwal or become the Viscount about 32...

if there will be cameos, those cameos are old already

I think Anders is supposed to be around the same age as Hawke at the start of DA2.  Certainly I got the impression in Awakening that he was in his mid to late 20s. 

I think DA3 will take places shortly after Asunder, which itself takes place a year after DA2, I think.  (Hasn't it been said that Cassandra's interrogation of Varric takes place after the events of Asunder?).  If Anders showed up he would be in his 30s or so, early 40s at the most, I think. 

You've got a funny idea of what makes for old.  But maybe that's just 'cuz I'm 36 and I hear people saying that Isabela herself couldn't be more than early 20s in DA2, because OMG  she couldn't POSSIBLY be so OLD as to be in her 30s.

Cassandra interrogating Varric is the last item in the World of Thedas timeline. It happens in 9:40. The sad part is that I don't think BioWare have paid attention to the character age that much. Most of them should be in their mid-thirties+ at the end of DA2 (Aveline is getting old to have kids too).

Cassandra might even be quite close to 40. Although, Mike said she wasn't that old, but she can't be younger than 33 in 9:40, 15 is the Templar recruiting age...and I really don't see her younger than that in 9:22.

[Boycott Bioware]

Rassler wrote...

Guys you miss the point, Wynne already died. She died fighting a demon in the circle but before she actually draw her last breath a spirit entered her body and kept her alive ever since. after reaching high approval with her in origins she mentions she will die soon as soon as spirit dies too cause she mentions spirit is old as well.

When it coems to an energitic spirit like vengeance I doubt he will die anytime soon.

In that case...Anders will never die even if we kill him because the spirit will keep him alive like Wayne....she's already dead like you mention but being kept alive by the spirit

So we have to expect to see Anders in DA3 no matter he was killed or not...and still, he will be about 40 in DA3 world

Like i mention before...

i. Kirkwal event - Chantry blow up, Meredith turn into stone
ii. Hawke leave or become Viscount
iii. Hawke friends leaving on their own, Isabella escape the Qunari and steal the book again (if we give her to the Qunari)
iv. The news about Kirkwall spreading
v. Mages the whole Thedas rebel
vi. Hawke is missing
vii. Chantry lost all Circles
viii. The Seekers seeking Hawke
ix. Cassandra interrogating Varric

It is not possible all those are just one year after Kirkwall event, it must be about 2 years minimum or 5 years maximum

Modifié par Qistina, 29 avril 2013 - 02:01 .

[Lulupab]

A friend of mine just said something that made perfect sense. Its about some people not liking Anders, especially those who sided with templars throughout the game. In higher difficulties when Hawke is not a mage Anders HAVE to be in the party as the healer since Merrill cannot heal at all. And every time you make a anti-mage decision he will annoy you about it. I would rage if I were in their place.

Modifié par Rassler, 29 avril 2013 - 01:53 .

[jaydip1985]

It doesn't matter if he reappears he will die yet again

[OdanUrr]

Rassler wrote...

TK514 wrote...

Not only am I not interested in seeing murder-knifed Anders again, I hope Vengeance is gone forever as we'll.

And that is exactly why I said those who killed him shouldn't see him again.

But still even if he appears as zombie or simply vengeance you'll do everything to kill him once and for all, judging from your hate. Anders was a successful character, its argueable but he had the 2nd most important role in DA2, destroying chantry is no simple deed. Even the tevinter didn't dare do such a thing

It's actually terribly simple and, at the same time, terribly stupid. It's purely symbolical, not practical.

[Renmiri1]

the new world of Thedas book shows the timeline

9:37 - chantry goes ka-boom
9:40 - Asunder
9:42 - cassandra interrogates varric