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[MermaidsTear]

ASmoothCriminalx wrote...

k1ngl1ves wrote...

There should be the option to not equip any weapons...

it would still be a crutch.

lolfury loldrelladept  

[DHKany]

What have I started.

Anyways, people calling Acolyte and Hurricane 'half-way decent' are delusional.

[Star fury]

Hurricane was buffed several times, before it was horrible weapon and bsn wants it nerfed. Bsn "logic" at it's best. Hurricane still has one of the worst recoils in the game.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Star fury wrote...

Hurricane was buffed several times, before it was horrible weapon and bsn wants it nerfed. Bsn "logic" at it's best. Hurricane still has one of the worst recoils in the game.

It was!? 

It think it's good that it has bad recoil - that is the weapon's only balancing factor. If the recoil was normal, the gun would be entirely broken.

[Matthias King]

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

Star fury wrote...

Hurricane was buffed several times, before it was horrible weapon and bsn wants it nerfed. Bsn "logic" at it's best. Hurricane still has one of the worst recoils in the game.

It was!? 

It think it's good that it has bad recoil - that is the weapon's only balancing factor. If the recoil was normal, the gun would be entirely broken.

That and the fact that it only has 20 shots per clip.  It says 40, but each 'shot' actually expends 2 shots.  Most people are aware of this, but some might not be.

[Naymurr]

Hurricane + (x) = easy peezy lemon squeezy

x = Scorpion, Talon, Paladin

Acolyte? It ain't easy being cheesy.

[lightswitch]

I don't use the Acolyte ever

not because I consider it cheesy, it just seems unnecessary. and switching weapons is icky

Modifié par lightswitch, 30 avril 2013 - 03:15 .

[Star fury]

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

It was!? 

It think it's good that it has bad recoil - that is the weapon's only balancing factor. If the recoil was normal, the gun would be entirely broken.

Benefits of playing since the demo. My friend declined to use Hurricane, it was that bad before buffs. I think only Eagle was buffed more. 

[DHKany]

Star fury wrote...

Hurricane was buffed several times, before it was horrible weapon and bsn wants it nerfed. Bsn "logic" at it's best. Hurricane still has one of the worst recoils in the game.

Point to me the post in which I mentioned Nerf.

[FlowCytometry]

Why bother w/ 2 different 'caster' weapons when you can just use a Talon, though?

[Kenadian]

Hurricane is limited quite a bit without the range closer of some classes or accuracy boosts, and I just plain don't like the Acolyte. So I never use the combo. I prefer my CSMG or Talon.

[Xaijin]

DeadeyeCYclops78 wrote...

when ppl say stuff like acolyte is "too easy" and then suggest using the geth scanner for wall hacking..... what do u expect... eat the fools, airlock the ignorant, and ignore the hippocrits, there would be about 2 ppl left here...

Pretty much.

It's always awesome to see elitists decry a certain setup and then see them play it liberally in game and sometimes even record themselves doing it.

Context™, it's what's for dinner.

[Star fury]

DHKany wrote...

Star fury wrote...

Hurricane was buffed several times, before it was horrible weapon and bsn wants it nerfed. Bsn "logic" at it's best. Hurricane still has one of the worst recoils in the game.

Point to me the post in which I mentioned Nerf.

Point to me the post in which I mentioned you.

[DHKany]

Star fury wrote...

DHKany wrote...

Star fury wrote...

Hurricane was buffed several times, before it was horrible weapon and bsn wants it nerfed. Bsn "logic" at it's best. Hurricane still has one of the worst recoils in the game.

Point to me the post in which I mentioned Nerf.

Point to me the post in which I mentioned you.

considering you mentioned BSN as a whole i assume that includes me.

[Original Twigman]

FlashAK wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

its a crutch for players who are sissies. I have seen the combo on classes that are better off with other weapons.

I guess that makes me a sissy who needs a crutch to succeed . I wouldn't use that combo on a character like the GI, but if I'm rolling with a kit like the Volus Engineer on Platinum, you can probably bet that I'll be running with that setup.

I wouldn't call it cheesy, it's just an effective combo. Something like warp/incendiary ammo/Reegar or inferno nades/incendiary ammo/Reegar is cheesy.

it is an effective combo.... until its not. What i mean by that is, its the go-to combination of guns when the player doesn't know what else to do.

Ex. No Infiltrator should have to run the combo. The huntress is the only one who can get away with running an acolyte, due to not having the weapon damage bonus.

No character with shield stripping power needs this.... Overload kits/Arc Grenade kits. Disruptor Rounds + High powered weapon (lancer, harrier, wraith, claymore, crusader, etc.), will eliminate an atlas shield faster than pew pew of an acolyte, and save you time switching weapons.

yet i see the combo on kits like, Human engineer, shadow infiltrator, QME, QMI, Turian Sentinel

its just sad to see the combo on the valkyrie.... which doesn't even make sense, considering that, if you are going for effective, the reegar can't be beat.

Its not that players who use it are sissies, its the players who can't use much else outside the combo who are.

[DHKany]

Well I guess this shows how many people read the OP in the first place.

[palmof40sorrows]

RamsenC wrote...

It's pretty much the goto caster combo. The fact that you get power damage weapon mods also helps. Really the Hurricane, Acolyte, and Reegar should be looked at, but it's too late for that.

I, and many others, prefer the CSMG. Better at headshots and long range without any mod or passive help, and unlimited ammo.

Don't get me wrong the Hurricane is great but I don't always want to have a Turian or stability gear to use a gun.

On topic, OMG with the cheesiness issues people. PVE should NOT make you rage like this. PVP, I get it, but co-op? STILL? Ugh.

[me0120]

Original Stikman wrote...

it is an effective combo.... until its not. What i mean by that is, its the go-to combination of guns when the player doesn't know what else to do.

This is the most accurate representation of how I feel about the combo. Outside of on-host Phantoms I only use the Acolyte on maybe 2 classes. Maybe.

[han shot shepard]

LineHolder wrote...



And I don't even like the Acolyte. If my character must die to Phantoms more often, so be it, but I'm not using a yawn inducing weapon. 

did u mean LOL inducing weapon...it shoots bouncy balls!  seriously tho, I couldn't stand the gun the fist couple of times I used it, and then I watched a friend play with it, and I totally saw the benefit of stripping shields in one shot.

[FlashAK]

Original Stikman wrote...

FlashAK wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

its a crutch for players who are sissies. I have seen the combo on classes that are better off with other weapons.

I guess that makes me a sissy who needs a crutch to succeed . I wouldn't use that combo on a character like the GI, but if I'm rolling with a kit like the Volus Engineer on Platinum, you can probably bet that I'll be running with that setup.

I wouldn't call it cheesy, it's just an effective combo. Something like warp/incendiary ammo/Reegar or inferno nades/incendiary ammo/Reegar is cheesy.

it is an effective combo.... until its not. What i mean by that is, its the go-to combination of guns when the player doesn't know what else to do.

Ex. No Infiltrator should have to run the combo. The huntress is the only one who can get away with running an acolyte, due to not having the weapon damage bonus.

No character with shield stripping power needs this.... Overload kits/Arc Grenade kits. Disruptor Rounds + High powered weapon (lancer, harrier, wraith, claymore, crusader, etc.), will eliminate an atlas shield faster than pew pew of an acolyte, and save you time switching weapons.

yet i see the combo on kits like, Human engineer, shadow infiltrator, QME, QMI, Turian Sentinel

its just sad to see the combo on the valkyrie.... which doesn't even make sense, considering that, if you are going for effective, the reegar can't be beat.

Its not that players who use it are sissies, its the players who can't use much else outside the combo who are.

I was kidding about the sissy/crutch comment, I knew what you meant. It boggles my mind when I see QMEs, TGIs, etc. rocking it though.

As for classes like the TSent, I would say that it depends more on how you spec overload. I go full chain on mine, and I don't go for power bonuses in his passives/tech armor, so it's not exactly a good shield stripper for bosses. I mainly use it for CC, stunning and to set off tech combos. It helps a bit with shields, but it's nowhere near as effective as the Acolyte when it comes to the boss units.

I've used the Hurricane/Acolyte combo on the TSent a handful of times (last time was maybe 3-4 months ago), but I think you've seen me play the TSent enough to know that 99% of the time I'll switch between the Wraith/Lancer/PPR/Talon with him.

Modifié par FlashAK, 30 avril 2013 - 05:25 .

[IamZAE]

VoidNeXus 000 wrote...

codsquallic wrote...

In my experience nothing beats the Black Widow X on any infiltrator.

My Javelin GI would like to have a word with you.

Infiltrator with Black Widow X says: "I can't be beat"

GI with Javelin responds: "Come see me I need a word with you, I'm in the thunderdome"

[Original Twigman]

FlashAK wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

FlashAK wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

its a crutch for players who are sissies. I have seen the combo on classes that are better off with other weapons.

I guess that makes me a sissy who needs a crutch to succeed . I wouldn't use that combo on a character like the GI, but if I'm rolling with a kit like the Volus Engineer on Platinum, you can probably bet that I'll be running with that setup.

I wouldn't call it cheesy, it's just an effective combo. Something like warp/incendiary ammo/Reegar or inferno nades/incendiary ammo/Reegar is cheesy.

it is an effective combo.... until its not. What i mean by that is, its the go-to combination of guns when the player doesn't know what else to do.

Ex. No Infiltrator should have to run the combo. The huntress is the only one who can get away with running an acolyte, due to not having the weapon damage bonus.

No character with shield stripping power needs this.... Overload kits/Arc Grenade kits. Disruptor Rounds + High powered weapon (lancer, harrier, wraith, claymore, crusader, etc.), will eliminate an atlas shield faster than pew pew of an acolyte, and save you time switching weapons.

yet i see the combo on kits like, Human engineer, shadow infiltrator, QME, QMI, Turian Sentinel

its just sad to see the combo on the valkyrie.... which doesn't even make sense, considering that, if you are going for effective, the reegar can't be beat.

Its not that players who use it are sissies, its the players who can't use much else outside the combo who are.

I was kidding about the sissy/crutch comment, I knew what you meant. It boggles my mind when I see QMEs, TGIs, etc. rocking it though.

As for classes like the TSent, I would say that it depends more on how you spec overload. I go full chain on mine, and I don't go for power bonuses in his passives/tech armor, so it's not exactly a good shield stripper for bosses. I mainly use it for CC, stunning and to set off tech combos. It helps a bit with shields, but it's nowhere near as effective as the Acolyte when it comes to the boss units.

I've used the Hurricane/Acolyte combo on the TSent a handful of times (last time was maybe 3-4 months ago), but I think you've seen me play the TSent enough to know that 99% of the time I'll switch between the Wraith/Lancer/PPR/Talon with him.

yeah, no worries. figured you were kidding around. I am getting a bit silly myself with the sissies comment... but who doesn't want to call others "crutching girly men" ????

yeah, ive seen you rock the sentinel, and well. Best of the Best, son.

Acolyte is fine, hurricane is fine... but when i see that pair (or the CSMG), i immediately think "scrub" when they are on classes i mentioned.

PS. i usually go for chain, recharge, and Overload (or wtv the shield stripper evo is), so it holds more weight for me that the acolyte is unnecessary. For Phantoms, i usually just deal with it like a boss

[GiroX-]

Why do some people insist on not using things designed to help you in video games? Do those people take the path with most resistance for everything they do?

Not directed at anybody, just a general thought after reading this thread.

[me0120]

GiroX- wrote...

Why do some people insist on not using things designed to help you in video games? Do those people take the path with most resistance for everything they do?

Not directed at anybody, just a general thought after reading this thread.

Because using something that inhibits self-progression does no decrease resistence. The nature of a crutch.

There are typically weapon + class combos that are superior to the Acolyte + Hurricane + any class combo. The problem is that they will not venture out and are instead making things more difficult in the long run.