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[justafan]

I think Bioware stated once they weren't sure if characters like Garrus or Tali would be liked or become popular, so they focused on the more human looking characters such as the Virmire duo and Liara. It makes sense not to spend a lot of time and money on a romance you don't think people will see, hence why we only get bits of unfinished dialogue.

Once those characters proved very popular then Bioware went and made them romanceable for the future games.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Argolas wrote...

I'm with Kelly about aliens.

I can understand this sentiment, but I don't believe in it.

I have big list of musts for a woman. These two are at the forefront.

Has to be female.

Has to be human.

[Argolas]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Argolas wrote...

I'm with Kelly about aliens.

I can understand this sentiment, but I don't believe in it.

I have big list of musts for a woman. These two are at the forefront.

Has to be female.

Has to be human.

I'm totally with you in real life. There is no actual substitute for a human anyway unless you have a rather weird fetish.

However, fictional non-humans can work just fine. For example, (Tolkien-ish) elves are technically not human, yet we don't usually have problems with finding them attractive. The question is: How much may a fictional creature be different from humans and still be attractive? Pointy ears are no big deal usually. How about mermaids? They usually are considered beautiful, yet I'd already have issues with the fish... thingie. However, in a game I'd have no problem with that. If I really like the character, I can tolerate a lot superficial stuff since I don't actually have to find that character attractive myself. The only thing I couldn't get into at all is messing with sexes. If I am to take a romance in a RPG seriously, my character must be male and the LI female.

In Mass Effect, I have no problem with Asari and Quarians, they easily look human enough. However, Turians... sorry, there's no way I'd feel attracted to Nyreen. That doesn't mean she couldn't be my characters LI if I had the chance, I'd just need to like the character enough.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Argolas wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Argolas wrote...

I'm with Kelly about aliens.

I can understand this sentiment, but I don't believe in it.

I have big list of musts for a woman. These two are at the forefront.

Has to be female.

Has to be human.

I'm totally with you in real life. There is no actual substitute for a human anyway unless you have a rather weird fetish.

However, fictional non-humans can work just fine. For example, (Tolkien-ish) elves are technically not human, yet we don't usually have problems with finding them attractive. The question is: How much may a fictional creature be different from humans and still be attractive? Pointy ears are no big deal usually. How about mermaids? They usually are considered beautiful, yet I'd already have issues with the fish... thingie. However, in a game I'd have no problem with that. If I really like the character, I can tolerate a lot superficial stuff since I don't actually have to find that character attractive myself. The only thing I couldn't get into at all is messing with sexes. If I am to take a romance in a RPG seriously, my character must be male and the LI female.

In Mass Effect, I have no problem with Asari and Quarians, they easily look human enough. However, Turians... sorry, there's no way I'd feel attracted to Nyreen. That doesn't mean she couldn't be my characters LI if I had the chance, I'd just need to like the character enough.

To that we can disagree. The elves in Tolkein material are more or less humans with a bit of magic and slightly pointed ears. They are fully compatible biologically.

Also, Star Wars. SW has near humans that are biologically the same as base line humans, but have diverged enough to have some differences from standard humans to be considered a sub-species (though some differ little enough to be considered more of an ethnic group than sub-species): Zeltrons, Lorrdians, Hapans, Chiss, Kiffar, Miraluka, Etti, Korunnai, etc.

Some are considered to be technically near-human, but different enough biologically (and in appearance) that I would not find them attractive and can be considered as a completely different: Twi'lek, Sullustans, etc.

Even in an RPG universe, I can only find humans (or the very close biological siblings) attractive. Quarians are utterly repulsive to me. The Asari are too. I can only dig other humans. No Shepard I ever make will be attracted to aliens. At all. Ever.

I don't mind messing with sexes, though I won't get into male/male things. Thus far, I have only ever played as Sheploo Miranda romancer, and that's all I will ever play as a Sheploo.

I am interested though in a FemShep run though. I will not be romancing any aliens either in this one.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 30 avril 2013 - 04:11 .

[CDR David Shepard]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Argolas wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Argolas wrote...

I'm with Kelly about aliens.

I can understand this sentiment, but I don't believe in it.

I have big list of musts for a woman. These two are at the forefront.

Has to be female.

Has to be human.

I'm totally with you in real life. There is no actual substitute for a human anyway unless you have a rather weird fetish.

However, fictional non-humans can work just fine. For example, (Tolkien-ish) elves are technically not human, yet we don't usually have problems with finding them attractive. The question is: How much may a fictional creature be different from humans and still be attractive? Pointy ears are no big deal usually. How about mermaids? They usually are considered beautiful, yet I'd already have issues with the fish... thingie. However, in a game I'd have no problem with that. If I really like the character, I can tolerate a lot superficial stuff since I don't actually have to find that character attractive myself. The only thing I couldn't get into at all is messing with sexes. If I am to take a romance in a RPG seriously, my character must be male and the LI female.

In Mass Effect, I have no problem with Asari and Quarians, they easily look human enough. However, Turians... sorry, there's no way I'd feel attracted to Nyreen. That doesn't mean she couldn't be my characters LI if I had the chance, I'd just need to like the character enough.

To that we can disagree. The elves in Tolkein material are more or less humans with a bit of magic and slightly pointed ears. They are fully compatible biologically.

Also, Star Wars. SW has near humans that are biologically the same as base line humans, but have diverged enough to have some differences from standard humans to be considered a sub-species (though some differ little enough to be considered more of an ethnic group than sub-species): Zeltrons, Lorrdians, Hapans, Chiss, Kiffar, Miraluka, etc.

Even in an RPG universe, I can only find humans (or the very close biological siblings) attractive. Quarians are utterly repulsive to me. The Asari are too. I can only dig other humans. No Shepard I ever make will be attracted to aliens. At all. Ever.

I don't understand this...please explain in more depth.

I can get only being attracted, physically, to humans...but to call these races "utterly repulsive" seems very, very extreme.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

CDR David Shepard wrote...

I don't understand this...please explain in more depth.

I can get only being attracted, physically, to humans...but to call these races "utterly repulsive" seems very, very extreme.

I, or my Shepard more appropriately, is sexually repulsed by aliens (though he slept with Sha'ira for some reason).  He is completely incapable of having any kind of sexual or romantic attraction to aliens at all. He would die a lonely man if stuck on a world full of Asari with no humans. He could watch alien porn all day and not even so much as feel anything at all. 

He's not a racist or speciesist or a fanatic. He has no attraction to any species except humans. Human females to be precise.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 30 avril 2013 - 04:16 .

[Argolas]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

CDR David Shepard wrote...

I don't understand this...please explain in more depth.

I can get only being attracted, physically, to humans...but to call these races "utterly repulsive" seems very, very extreme.

I, or my Shepard more appropriately, is sexually repulsed by aliens (though he slept with Sha'ira for some reason).  He is completely incapable of having any kind of sexual or romantic attraction to aliens at all.

He's not a racist or speciesist or a fanatic. He has no attraction to any species except humans. Human females to be precise.

I'm guessing rather the thought of mating them that's repulsive, not themselves, right?

I mean, a little analogy: I think cats are beautiful, just not in that sense. The latter would be repulsive.

Modifié par Argolas, 30 avril 2013 - 04:16 .

[CDR David Shepard]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

CDR David Shepard wrote...

I don't understand this...please explain in more depth.

I can get only being attracted, physically, to humans...but to call these races "utterly repulsive" seems very, very extreme.

I, or my Shepard more appropriately, is sexually repulsed by aliens (though he slept with Sha'ira for some reason).  He is completely incapable of having any kind of sexual or romantic attraction to aliens at all. 

He's not a racist or speciesist or a fanatic. He has no attraction to any species except humans. Human females to be precise.

I see...so you just meant it in a "sexual" sense.

Modifié par CDR David Shepard, 30 avril 2013 - 04:17 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Argolas wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

CDR David Shepard wrote...

I don't understand this...please explain in more depth.

I can get only being attracted, physically, to humans...but to call these races "utterly repulsive" seems very, very extreme.

I, or my Shepard more appropriately, is sexually repulsed by aliens (though he slept with Sha'ira for some reason).  He is completely incapable of having any kind of sexual or romantic attraction to aliens at all.

He's not a racist or speciesist or a fanatic. He has no attraction to any species except humans. Human females to be precise.

I'm guessing rather the thought of mating them that's repulsive, not themselves, right?

I mean, a little analogy: I think cats are beautiful, just not in that sense. The latter would be repulsive.

More or less, yes.

[AlanC9]

Asari are close enough for me. Quarians would depend on what's under the suit.

[Wayning_Star]

It's about the conversation dialogue wheel and your paragon renegade levels. Often choices with squaddies is related to interrupts. Drove me crazy till I figured out what to say and more so HOW to say it, as I found it a bit of 'luck' with the dialogue made you either more lucky or unlucky with all kinds of interactions. I don't think it's anything about 'preferences' so much as just how you respond and/or approach who ever.

That's my theory anyway...I'm sticking with it..lol

[Argolas]

tickle267 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Asari are close enough for me. Quarians would depend on what's under the suit.

Hmm

Nah.

[Zazzerka]

That is not Ashley Williams.

[AlexMBrennan]

Seriously? Humans with funny ears are totally hot, but humans with blue body paint and a funny hat are totally repulsive? I am seriously not seeing the big difference from a meta POV, never mind the fact that "everyone likes the Asari" is canon)

[KaiserShep]

Personally I wouldn't mind taking leave on Thessia. My main concern is the fact that there's eezo in the water.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Seriously? Humans with funny ears are totally hot, but humans with blue body paint and a funny hat are totally repulsive? I am seriously not seeing the big difference from a meta POV, never mind the fact that "everyone likes the Asari" is canon)

Well, my Shepard isn't everyone. He isn't attracted to the Asari at all. 

Why do people make such a big deal out of me not finding aliens physically attractive?

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 30 avril 2013 - 05:19 .

[Argolas]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Seriously? Humans with funny ears are totally hot, but humans with blue body paint and a funny hat are totally repulsive? I am seriously not seeing the big difference from a meta POV, never mind the fact that "everyone likes the Asari" is canon)

Well, my Shepard isn't everyone. He isn't attracted to the Asari at all. 

Why do people make such a big deal out of me not finding aliens physically attractive?

Ignore it. It's about preferences anyway.

[Gixxer6Rdr]

tickle267 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Asari are close enough for me. Quarians would depend on what's under the suit.

Hmm

I lol'd, big time, lmao.

And "everyone likes Asari is canon," applies to in game people, but obviously Massively Effective's Shephard does not follow that, which is fine. I disagree, have romanced Liara and Talia, Talia looks less human based upon feet and hands, which are 'icky' lol, but she's so sweet and nice, one of my Sheps decided to go for it. No ones personal opinions/decisions about their own Shephard is wrong to me...

Modifié par Gixxer6Rdr, 30 avril 2013 - 05:32 .

[KaiserShep]

tickle267 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Asari are close enough for me. Quarians would depend on what's under the suit.

Hmm

Problematic. lol

[themikefest]

My femshep has no attraction to aliens at all.. She likes human females. Without that she would be a very lonely woman

[Reorte]

Personally speaking aliens that are generally (probably very unrealistically) close to humans in appearance, such as asari or quarians, are ones I find attractive in the game and quite possibly would in real life. I find it hard to believe such aliens really exist (but since we've never seen any it's pretty well impossible to draw any conclusions about appearance).

Funnily enough I actually find Tali's hands and legs rather attractive, but aren't so keen on her feet. There's possibly a thing about differences being attractive (since it encourages genetic diversity) and some aliens are different yet still similar enough to trigger that in some people, myself included. Where they start getting a bit more different it gets harder; I could easily romance a female turian in game but probably not in real life.

Modifié par Reorte, 30 avril 2013 - 05:53 .

[David7204]

I'm much more worried about the possibility of aliens being similar to us than us aliens being different. I'm worried that being similar might be a lot more likely.

[AlexMBrennan]

Why do people make such a big deal out of me not finding aliens physically attractive?

Because you happen to have picked one of the least alien designs I can think of - they have human bodies, human face and were designed to be attractive to the (human) player according to The Art of Mass Effect; they are a textbook example of the green skinned space babe:

An exotic yet attractive female alien, tending to look exactly like an attractive female human except for odd coloring and a couple minor features added.

You are of course entitled to your opinion but it's not very consistent to find the asari repulsive if you are fine with elves.

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 30 avril 2013 - 05:59 .

[David7204]

You know, I've heard several people say that here, and it's always people who romance Miranda. And I'm thinking that it's awfully convenient that they happen to be saying pretty much exactly what I can imagine Miranda to be thinking.

Modifié par David7204, 30 avril 2013 - 06:01 .