Athenau wrote...
This isn't true. In the hands of the Infiltrator the Indra is the best ranged infantry killer. 4 headshots to kill @500 rpm >> 2 shots from a semiauto@60-80 RPM. Not to mention the much larger mag. The beauty of the Indra is that all that stacked weapon damage and headshot damage from skills and gear is still useful against infantry, where as the semi-auto's run up against the shield gate wall.
I don't see it. It's why it doesn't have a following in MP any longer. All the buffed SR's are significantly better. Valiant or Black Widow for instance. I am even skeptical Indra trumps various AR's like Saber or Harrier. Shield gate is not a serious issue in this discussion because Indra isn't killing anything with a shield in 4 shots most likely anyway. Which makes me wonder about the other numbers. There aren't any semi-autos worth mentioning with ROF of 60-80 that are taking more than one-shot to kill those unprotected targets. And Valiant even in the damage / hp windows where it takes 2 is humming at 100rpm.
I haven't run the numbers for Soldier with IEB, but I suspect the Indra will come out on top there as well.
Not compared to the good sustained damage weapons. Soldier is general weapon damage bonus. Indra can only sneak into the discussion on Infiltrator because of Rank 6 TacCloak and Operational Mastery bonuses.
Well, it'll certainly fare better against big targets than the GPR, since the GPR's base damage is crap. The bullet spam weapons (Punisher, Hurricane, Revenant) are better boss killers (though there is that 1.4x boss headshot multiplier to consider which benefits accurate weapons) but the Indra is better than all of those against infantry.
It might be better against big targets than GPR, but GPR weighs 0.5 which allows you to take a Hurricane or Punisher for around the same total weight as the Indra... And Indra doesn't have anything on either of those versus large targets. Or I could just run Harrier or Lancer...
Also while the Valiant is probably not a great caster weapon due to the weight, it's superior to the BW on a soldier since unlike the infiltrator the soldier doesn't have any particular synergy with the BW (adrenaline rush instant reload gives a mild sustained dps bump, but nothing spectacular) and the soldier cares about weight more than the infiltrator. I still haven't seen a convincing argument for dropping it to A-tier.
ARush lets you fire 6 BW shots in a little over 4 seconds. That is over 8000 damage before bonuses from passive, intel, armor, or ammo. You are right, it isn't making a huge leap in sustained fire, but it will kill everything up through the Brute on Insanity in that time or less. As I said before, you don't necessarily even need all 6 to kill the Brute (you didn't before the buff if you added a little debuff). Again, kill speed, not paper DPS. Valiant will potentially win against Banshees and Atlases (which are uncommon), and if there happened to be significantly more than 6 small targets at once (which hardly occurs since limit is 8). Soldier does care about weight more than the lame infiltrator, but you have enough capacity maxed that you can still carry 2 guns with decent CD on ARush if you spec him that way in CM. Or enjoy one-shotting basics with BW and throwing in Amplified CS instead.
I don't particularly care if you drop Valiant or not (it was in my mind somewhere between A and S anyway so no need to quibble), but it isn't as good as a year ago compared to alternatives. Especially with Suppressor, Lancer, Harrier, buffed Hurricane, Punisher floating around which all have better synergy with ARush and IEB simultaneously.
Indra though, I just can't see it. Extreme niche that is of dubious benefit. If range was such a bonus or balancing factor, Reegar wouldn't be so overpowered.
The claymore...I'm wavering on whether to drop this down to A tier now. So much depends on how limiting you find the SP reload cancel methods. I find empty-grenade canceling fine on the weapon classes since their grenades are bad anyway...but others might disagree. Anyone else care to chime on this?
The bigger issue is power to weight and how you can get near Claymore performance with half the weight in Wraith. Or go Raider with better DPS (although less range). Or if you can use it, Graal is better for the bulk of targets.
Just my opinion, no need to spread it around.
Modifié par capn233, 03 mai 2013 - 04:06 .
it is a bug but it did not appear in my game. Personally I am comfortable with assuming that (a) players did not properly help Miranda.
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I have fond memories of that gun in ME2, back when AR gave a stability bonus, and you could get the all powerful assault rifle accuracy upgrade...
