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[LobselVith8]

EdwinLi wrote...

It just a question that came up in my mind after discussing this with someone else so how will you handle the Mage Vs Templar war outcome in DA3?

Will you...

1) Side with Mages 

2) Side with Templars 

3) Side with coexistence (gain support from both Templars and Mages who believe in peace and try to prevent the war from becoming a slaughter fest.)

However, no matter what you do there will be a extremist faction of Templars and Mages who will start a battle that will determine how the War ends.

I would side with the mages, to help them keep their independence.

EdwinLi wrote...

Siding with Templars will have the extremist faction Templars join you. (2 way war)

Siding with Mages will have the extremist faction Mages join you. (2 way war)

Siding with Coexistence will have the Templars and Mages who support coexistence help you stop this war but it will be a 3 way way in this path ending with the boss battle of both Extremist Leaders.

(If you want to ask I ended the discussion with him or her because I couldn't say anything about trying to end the Mage vs Templar War before it begins to save both Mages and Templars without that person calling me Biased and trying to word everything I say as if I want to kill all the Templars and save only Mages.)

I don't believe in a compromise when the factions want the exact opposite if each other. I would help the mages maintain their autonomy from the Chantry and the Templar Order.

[Fast Jimmy]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Filament wrote...

Survey said mage templar war is just a backdrop in which a new threat emerges that is manipulating both parties or whatever. For whatever a survey is worth.

 I don't put any stock in that survey.

Speaking of which, I haven't really seen Emzam around lately.

If I had to take a guess, she was probably perma-banned after her posts/threads became increasingly attacking all the time a month or so back.

Back on topic, I predict that the Mage/Templar "War" won't actually be a "war" at all. The two sides all be preparing for war, but the conflict won't be boiling over into pitched warfare during the game, at least not until possibly the End Game. Both sides will be trying to gather allies to their side and you, as the Inqusiitor, will be involved with intervening in some way. Journeying to Kal Sharock to visit the dwarves there to lock their lyrium trade; visiting with the Empress/Garspand to see who will rule Orlais (and who that persons will support), meeting with Tevinter magisters to address the disturbances in the Fade (according to the survey), etc. etc.

As you progress, you will find that there is a Big Bad organizing the entire conflict for their own nefarious purpose and that there are accomplices on both sides of the conflict pouring fuel on the fire. Your actions will reveal these perpetrators and force them to reveal their hand, causing them to Do Something Drastic which will release The Big Bad upon the world. With a unified force gathered throughout the game (including the Mages and Templars themselves, who realized they were duped), you fight the forces of the Big Bad and save the day.

Mages and Templars realize that there are still great dangers to magic, but that locking Mages in the Towers all of their lives is not the best solution. Templars agree to be support to help train Mages and make Tranquil those who request it, but then let any Mage who passes their Harrowing to leave the Circle if they so choose. Peace is achieved and everyone is gay... errr, merry. 

[Karlone123]

I am hoping it does not pay tribute to Orsino and Kinght-Commander Merideth going insane regardless of what you do. I hope to see a bit more variety in solving the Mage-Templar issue.

[Fast Jimmy]

Karlone123 wrote...

I am hoping it does not pay tribute to Orsino and Kinght-Commander Merideth going insane regardless of what you do. I hope to see a bit more variety in solving the Mage-Templar issue.

There's the saying... "You can hope in one hand and crap in another - see which one fills up first" that might apply here?

[Melca36]

EdwinLi wrote...

 It just a question that came up in my mind after discussing this with someone else so how will you handle the Mage Vs Templar war outcome in DA3?

Will you...

1) Side with Mages 

2) Side with Templars 

3) Side with coexistence (gain support from both Templars and Mages who believe in peace and try to prevent the war from becoming a slaughter fest.)

However, no matter what you do there will be a extremist faction of Templars and Mages who will start a battle that will determine how the War ends. 

Siding with Templars will have the extremist faction Templars join you. (2 way war)

Siding with Mages will have the extremist faction Mages join you. (2 way war)

Siding with Coexistence will have the Templars and Mages who support coexistence help you stop this war but it will be a 3 way way in this path ending with the boss battle of both Extremist Leaders.

(If you want to ask I ended the discussion with him or her because I couldn't say anything about trying to end the Mage vs Templar War before it begins to save both Mages and Templars without that person calling me Biased and trying to word everything I say as if I want to kill all the Templars and save only Mages.)

The game is not going to be about Mages VS Templars.   You need to think Broader than that.

[NoForgiveness]

EntropicAngel wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

I don't believe in a compromise when the factions want the exact opposite if each other. I would help the mages maintain their autonomy from the Chantry and the Templar Order.

But do the mages want autonomy?

I think it's a valid question. We see few mages who are really distraught over a normal Circle situation--that is Ferelden, Kirkwall was anything but normal. The only one is Anders, who certainly can't be said to speak for all mages.

 did you read asunder? the circle chooses independence. not every single mage but the majority.

[EdwinLi]

Melca36 wrote...


The game is not going to be about Mages VS Templars.   You need to think Broader than that.

I know that already ( for the something time already, I lost count how many times I repeated myself already after the 21st time)

Mage Vs Templar war will be one of the Major issues we have to resolve and the outcome of it will still be determined by us.

[Boycott Bioware]

The cause of all problems is The Maker, he is the culprit behind everything

He is so ****** off with his own creation, he try to make his creation destroying each other by the creation of darkspawn, but he failed, his creation is so clever drinking darkspawn blood making them immune to the taint and fight back

He hate his creation, but the Chantry continuously using his name and preaching. he also creating more mages and abominations, but the Chantry have found a way to suppress mages. So The Maker have an idea, that is to spark a war by sending his son Justice to possess a Mage named Anders to blow up the Chantry

Now The Maker just wait everybody kill everybody

[EdwinLi]

MR_PN wrote...

 did you read asunder? the circle chooses independence. not every single mage but the majority.

Hopefully their mission of independence doesn't turn into trying to create another Imperium. 

I had enough of all Mages I meet who try to advocate for peace and a better Circle turn into crazy Blood mages in DA2.

The Templars breaking away from the Circle and becoming Extremist was bad enough now those Templars want to kill every Mage in existance or Tranquil them all for being born with magic. 

Good side of this is not all Templars became Extremists and have joined the Rebel Mages becuase of the new Templars extreme ideals being unjust.

For now the Mage Vs Templar war are separated in

Rebel Mages
- Mages
-Apostates
-blood Mages (who are not insane for once)
-Rebel Templars (Templars who still believe in coexistance)

Templar
-Templars (Extremists now)
-Seekers (those who have abandoned the Chantry)

Modifié par EdwinLi, 01 mai 2013 - 06:17 .

[Dabrikishaw]

Chaos Lord Malek wrote...

I don't think there will be any outcome for it. Its too much. Just look at the mass effect, they made 3 different endings (not counting refuse or other variations), and they don't know how to continue the setting - asking fans how they should proceed.

So at best, i expect that we put down some super over the top maleficar (final boss) and that's it. No such things as Mages are free, or Mages going back to circles, as those would wastly complicate future installments.

This.

[Boycott Bioware]

Let us look back on some facts...

The spirits are The Maker first children. Justice is one of The Maker child. Justice blow up the Chantry.

Ever wonder why? justice is THE MAKER CHILD and he blow up the Chantry, the place where the people worship The Maker

The Maker curse the mages who get into his city becoming the first darkspawn, and since then these cursed thing multiplied and nearly destroy the world until someone have a brilliant idea on how to counter the darkspawn by drinking their blood. It is clear that The maker want to destroy the world.

Then Tevinter Imperium become power hungry, enslave peoples for their blood magic ritual,.The Maker steal someone wife to become his bride and a prophet to against Tevinter Imperium. It is all a trick, the real intention is to troll everyone. Maferath is pissed off with the Maker, making him betraying Andraste. In the end Andraste killed, Maferath killed, Tevinter is weakened, everybody loose, The Maker lolz

5 times the attempt to destroy the world failed, that is why after 6 years The Maker cannot stand any longer, he sent more abominations to messing up Kirkwall, then send his son Justice to destroy the Chantry and the world is in ruin now...

In DA:I, the war end is by making peace with The Maker.....the army we gather is to fight The Maker and his children trying to force The Maker to FORGIVE the ORIGINAL SIN of mankind......that is interrupting him watching football match in his home

[ObserverStatus]

I think I'll resolve it by tranquilizing every single mage!

[M Hedonist]

No more templars.

[Asdrubael Vect]

"One day the magic will come back. All of it. Everyone will be just like they were. The shadows will part and the skies will open wide. When he rises, everyone will see"

so all elven people reclaim their ancestors magic abilitys and connection with fade what was stolen by humans

so the question is, who is "He"?

1)one of the dalish or city elf  mage child
2)Feynriel after Tevinter Magisters lessons
3)Morrigan or any of OGB

Modifié par Dark Korsar, 01 mai 2013 - 07:46 .

[10K]

Well I think the Qunari will end up invading Thedas and both groups will end up working together. Or the player will have to get them to work together. That's what I think.

[Lord of War]

Worldwide magocracy, and death to the Qun, please.

[BouncyFrag]

mosesarose wrote...

Well I think the Qunari will end up invading Thedas and both groups will end up working together. Or the player will have to get them to work together. That's what I think.

OR side with the Qunari and take them both out. I doubt that will happen though, but we were able to side with Loghain in DA:O so maybe theres a sliver of a chance.

[Lulupab]

I don't see a successful mage victory concept without Anders presence.

[Fast Jimmy]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Is that you, Nizaris?

Ha! A valid question, I think. Especially given the join date. 

[Fast Jimmy]

Rassler wrote...

I don't see a successful mage victory concept without Anders presence.

I don't see a successful Mage victory concept WITH the presence of a terrorist. 

[Lulupab]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Rassler wrote...

I don't see a successful mage victory concept without Anders presence.

I don't see a successful Mage victory concept WITH the presence of a terrorist. 

Well a good mage victory concept would mean total defeat of templars and chantry and if that happens a person who blew up a chantry is NOT a terrorist but a hero.

[Xilizhra]

Unless we need them to stop the qunari, the templars will be ended. Something new can later be built without their vile taint.