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Bioware please give us the option to eradicate the Qun


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sandalisthemaker wrote...

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Back to the eradicating, I think that all the choices to effect game worlds on such large scales (destroy the Geth, Quarians, Krogan, Rachni, Synthesis, Control) ultimately undermine the richness of the eperience by giving undue power to the player character and making them effectively ommnipotent. (which would be fairly boring in my opinion). Looking back, this is more a problem with Mass Effect than Dragon Age.


The problem with the Qunari is that  a 'live and let live' philosophy is incompatible with their religion. I think that conflict is and always will be inevitable when you have an army of powerful, aggressive fanatics at your doorstep. Andrastians will have no choice but to push back.
I see another exalted march against the Qunari in Thedas' future. 


This is why I hope there are plently of bars and booze in Thedas this time round... 

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I'd say wait until we see the entirety of the Qunari before this happens we haven't even gone to one of there cities yet and most of what we know about is through codex entries and bits and pieces from Sten,Fenris,Tallis, and the novels.

It's a bit too early to wipe them out yet Dragon Age 4 hasn't even come out yet folks.


I don't believe we would be allowed to simply waltz into one of their cities. Not unless we either accept the Qun willingly or are captured and lobotomized.

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sandalisthemaker wrote...

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I'd say wait until we see the entirety of the Qunari before this happens we haven't even gone to one of there cities yet and most of what we know about is through codex entries and bits and pieces from Sten,Fenris,Tallis, and the novels.

It's a bit too early to wipe them out yet Dragon Age 4 hasn't even come out yet folks.


I don't believe we would be allowed to simply waltz into one of their cities. Not unless we either accept the Qun willingly or are captured and lobotomized.

Never say never

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sandalisthemaker wrote...

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I'd say wait until we see the entirety of the Qunari before this happens we haven't even gone to one of there cities yet and most of what we know about is through codex entries and bits and pieces from Sten,Fenris,Tallis, and the novels.

It's a bit too early to wipe them out yet Dragon Age 4 hasn't even come out yet folks.


I don't believe we would be allowed to simply waltz into one of their cities. Not unless we either accept the Qun willingly or are captured and lobotomized.


You're probably right but i wouldn't rule out the possibly entirely, we could wind up in Par Vallon, Seheron, or Kont-Aar depending what actually happens in DA3. I'm not a big fan of the Qun but i rather see Qunari society before making my final judgement about them.

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Ah, good old Sten.
Talking to him was a hoot back when I knew nothing about the Qun.
If he shows up as an aggressor this time around, his head will roll.

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I bet if you had sufficient cookies you could stop Sten before he did anything drastic.

Not a good man to put in charge in retrospect.

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SergeantSnookie wrote...

I bet if you had sufficient cookies you could stop Sten before he did anything drastic.

Not a good man to put in charge in retrospect.


They probably re-programmed him before giving him his new role.
I doubt he will be the mildly adorable oaf he once was.

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Well, he does owe the Warden a favour (if you made friends with him and found his sword, anyway.)

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Ah, good old Sten.
Talking to him was a hoot back when I knew nothing about the Qun.
If he shows up as an aggressor this time around, his head will roll.

Not if he is still wielding his Rainbow Butterfly Sword of Doom.
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edit: i'm not sure what Morrigan is wearing

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If you like Sten then why do you want to destroy the Qunari when he is the leader of the Qunari now?

If you made your canon story in DA:O where Sten is a live he will become the Arishok and he is certainly a better Arishok than the old one from DA2. Even Tallis agrees what the old Arishock did in DA2 was wrong.

Sten is like the Wrex of the DA world so having him live and return to the Qunari can only benefit unless you had him killed in DA:O than you can consider killing the Qunari because without Sten you know what will happen when a the Wreav of DA world becomes the Arishok rather than Sten.

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The Qunari have sleeper agents EVERYWHERE! But I actually like the ideology of the Qun and should the need rise they would make the PERFECT military allies if something like idk both of the last two Old GODS come to life and try to destroy everyone.

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EdwinLi wrote...

If you like Sten then why do you want to destroy the Qunari when he is the leader of the Qunari now?

If you made your canon story in DA:O where Sten is a live he will become the Arishok and he is certainly a better Arishok than the old one from DA2. Even Tallis agrees what the old Arishock did in DA2 was wrong.

Sten is like the Wrex of the DA world so having him live and return to the Qunari can only benefit unless you had him killed in DA:O than you can consider killing the Qunari because without Sten you know what will happen when a the Wreav of DA world becomes the Arishok rather than Sten.


I indeed did like Sten in DA:O. I befriended him, helped him in the fade, found his sword, the whole bit.
His personality was quaint and humorous even though my wariness about the Qun grew and grew the more he spoke about it.
It was Sten the individual that I liked, not what he stood for. Unfortunately, the individual does not matter to the Qun. He has no connection to the PC this time around. We are not the Warden, so why do you think he will be similar to Wrex?

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The Qunari have sleeper agents EVERYWHERE! But I actually like the ideology of the Qun and should the need rise they would make the PERFECT military allies if something like idk both of the last two Old GODS come to life and try to destroy everyone.


I'm curious.
What is it about their ideology that you like?
You do realize that they have no individual freedom.

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As long as there is also the option to join them.


Indeed. I won't mind people having the option of calling down a Crusade Exalted March on Qunari-held lands as long as assisting our good grey-skinned friends is on the table as well.

I'm curious.
What is it about their ideology that you like?
You do realize that they have no individual freedom.


They have implemented a sense of equality in their society. Each of the branches is seen as important and cannot work without the other.
Compare that with the aristocracies in Chant-lands, with their ingrained racism toward minorities such as elves, and you got something going there.

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Chashan wrote...

They have implemented a sense of equality in their society. Each of the branches is seen as important and cannot work without the other.
Compare that with the aristocracies in Chant-lands, with their ingrained racism toward minorities such as elves, and you got something going there.


Me thinks someone has had a little too much qamek.
You realize they are not peaceful and zen-like? The Qunari are violent and aggressively seek to convert anyone not of the Qun.

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They have implemented a sense of equality in their society. Each of the branches is seen as important and cannot work without the other.

I'm not going to pretend that the Qun is without its benefits, but the equality it brings comes at the cost of basically oppressing everyone. That's just the worst kind of equality.

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Oh yes. What a grand request.

Give us the option to behead the Arishok in front of his sheep, then toss his head down steps. Give them a taste of their own medicine.

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I indeed did like Sten in DA:O. I befriended him, helped him in the fade, found his sword, the whole bit.
His personality was quaint and humorous even though my wariness about the Qun grew and grew the more he spoke about it.
It was Sten the individual that I liked, not what he stood for. Unfortunately, the individual does not matter to the Qun. He has no connection to the PC this time around. We are not the Warden, so why do you think he will be similar to Wrex?



He will follow what the Qun determines is best for the people. However, what is considered best for the people is determined by the knowledge the Qun has. With the Knowledge of what he went through in DA:O the Qun can determine that conquest may not be required and it would benefit the Qun to not attempt a world conquest but a more peaceful method.

Without the knowledge Sten obtained in DA:O the Qun will not have the knowledge that the world does not need to be conquested. So the Qun will have a stronger support in the ideal that conquest is needed because Sten did not provide the knowledge he recieved from his journey in DA:O to the Qun.

You have to think more like the Qun to understand why having Sten live and become the Arishok benefits the Qun more towards supporting peace rather than conquest. 

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EDIT: scratch my last post, forgot about the comics.

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as long as i get to wipe them damn knife ears of the face of thedas first

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as long as i get to wipe them damn knife ears of the face of thedas first


I am indifferent to the elves.
Why do you hate them so?

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Scarlet Rabbi wrote...

Oh yes. What a grand request.

Give us the option to behead the Arishok in front of his sheep, then toss his head down steps. Give them a taste of their own medicine.


That Arishock is dead so...

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I will not toss Sten head at them.

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Or show us aspects of their culture we might actually like....

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sandalisthemaker wrote...

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as long as i get to wipe them damn knife ears of the face of thedas first


I am indifferent to the elves.
Why do you hate them so?


they never really bothered me until DA2, then they uttered the word "Shem" to me an ive never had a word irritate an annoy me so much in a damn video game as that word did everytime it was uttered to me, so now they all die by murder knife or blunt instrument to the head rapidly an repeatedly while shouting "GO SAY IT AGAIN I DARE YOU"