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[garrusfan1]

Solmanian wrote...

Wow, I don't think I ever encountered such an intolerant thread toward a fictional species. "Please bioware let destroy the Qun"? Because the andrastians are better? It's not even feasible, since you still don't know where the qunari came from... You only know which country they invaded first. For all we know there an entire continent filled with angry qunari.

I agree with the fact that people want to eradicate them to be a little odd. also the qunari came to thedas and then immediatly went to war. also andrastians are not as bad cause people have choice unlike the qun

[Fast Jimmy]

garrusfan1 wrote...

Solmanian wrote...

Wow, I don't think I ever encountered such an intolerant thread toward a fictional species. "Please bioware let destroy the Qun"? Because the andrastians are better? It's not even feasible, since you still don't know where the qunari came from... You only know which country they invaded first. For all we know there an entire continent filled with angry qunari.

I agree with the fact that people want to eradicate them to be a little odd. also the qunari came to thedas and then immediatly went to war. also andrastians are not as bad cause people have choice unlike the qun

Unless you are a mage. Then you have no choice.

[garrusfan1]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Solmanian wrote...

Wow, I don't think I ever encountered such an intolerant thread toward a fictional species. "Please bioware let destroy the Qun"? Because the andrastians are better? It's not even feasible, since you still don't know where the qunari came from... You only know which country they invaded first. For all we know there an entire continent filled with angry qunari.

I agree with the fact that people want to eradicate them to be a little odd. also the qunari came to thedas and then immediatly went to war. also andrastians are not as bad cause people have choice unlike the qun

Unless you are a mage. Then you have no choice.

to be fair mages are always screwed but they are worse off with qunari

[Fast Jimmy]

garrusfan1 wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Solmanian wrote...

Wow, I don't think I ever encountered such an intolerant thread toward a fictional species. "Please bioware let destroy the Qun"? Because the andrastians are better? It's not even feasible, since you still don't know where the qunari came from... You only know which country they invaded first. For all we know there an entire continent filled with angry qunari.

I agree with the fact that people want to eradicate them to be a little odd. also the qunari came to thedas and then immediatly went to war. also andrastians are not as bad cause people have choice unlike the qun

Unless you are a mage. Then you have no choice.

to be fair mages are always screwed but they are worse off with qunari

True.

[garrusfan1]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Solmanian wrote...

Wow, I don't think I ever encountered such an intolerant thread toward a fictional species. "Please bioware let destroy the Qun"? Because the andrastians are better? It's not even feasible, since you still don't know where the qunari came from... You only know which country they invaded first. For all we know there an entire continent filled with angry qunari.

I agree with the fact that people want to eradicate them to be a little odd. also the qunari came to thedas and then immediatly went to war. also andrastians are not as bad cause people have choice unlike the qun

Unless you are a mage. Then you have no choice.

to be fair mages are always screwed but they are worse off with qunari

True.

it is sad cause even in tevinter they are likely not to have a great life since unless they were born into a family that has power you could become a slave

[EdwinLi]

garrusfan1 wrote...

it is sad cause even in tevinter they are likely not to have a great life since unless they were born into a family that has power you could become a slave

No matter where you are Mages will always be in the bottom of the barrel.

However, this demand for Qunari death isn't about mages but because of their way of life.

I don't think killing the Qunari is necessary because people belief over the qunari comes for their religious beliefs and past history.

History of what happens in the past is always writing by the victors and what really happened may not be what we believe happened for History never lies but Historians do.

The Religion of Andraste has brought many issues and even in the ranks of the religion there is corruption and greed. If you remember back in Dawn of the Seeker the events there is a example of the corruption between the religious leaders. Also let not forget how people killed the Qun in Andraste's name because they are Qunari and not members of the Andraste religion.

When members of the Qunari leave the religion they just become non-important but if someone were to leave the religion of Andraste people start picking on the religion they move to and kill them. Petrice was another example of what the majority of the religion of Andraste is like.

[Wulfram]

Solmanian wrote...

Wow, I don't think I ever encountered such an intolerant thread toward a fictional species. "Please bioware let destroy the Qun"? Because the andrastians are better? It's not even feasible, since you still don't know where the qunari came from... You only know which country they invaded first. For all we know there an entire continent filled with angry qunari.

Pretty sure people want to wipe out the religion, not the species.  Which makes it totally OK

Though to be honest unless the Qunari show a capacity for reform or moderation they haven't yet, it seems like either the Qun or all the other religions in Thedas will end up eradicated.

[Melca36]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

 So something tells me that  those wacky Qunari will be back in DA3.
Perhaps they will be the big bad swooping in while the mages and Templars are busy tearing eachother apart?
I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of players killed the Arishok in DA2, so surely their Qun would demand revenge for the death of such an important pillar of their religion.
With Sten as the new Arishok, this would provide a familiar face to the enemy leader, which would be interesting. 
 MoTA's plot involved them, and I was dissappointed that I could not stop Tallis after finding out who she really was and what she was trying to do. 
I would like the option to land a serious blow to the Qun and its followers once again. Killing the first Arishok was great, and I would have no qualms about killing Sten if need be.
Make it happen, Bioware.

Why should they destroy the lore  just because you don't like them???????

As long as they don't try to convert people they have the RIGHT to exist.    

You want to convert every body to the Chant? Thedas would be boring if everybody followed it.

[garrusfan1]

EdwinLi wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

it is sad cause even in tevinter they are likely not to have a great life since unless they were born into a family that has power you could become a slave

No matter where you are Mages will always be in the bottom of the barrel.

However, this demand for Qunari death isn't about mages but because of their way of life.

I don't think killing the Qunari is necessary because people belief over the qunari comes for their religious beliefs and past history.

History of what happens in the past is always writing by the victors and what really happened may not be what we believe happened for History never lies but Historians do.

The Religion of Andraste has brought many issues and even in the ranks of the religion there is corruption and greed. If you remember back in Dawn of the Seeker the events there is a example of the corruption between the religious leaders. Also let not forget how people killed the Qun in Andraste's name because they are Qunari and not members of the Andraste religion.

When members of the Qunari leave the religion they just become non-important but if someone were to leave the religion of Andraste people start picking on the religion they move to and kill them. Petrice was another example of what the majority of the religion of Andraste is like.

patrice was a fanatic that is like saying that one person being insane represents an entire group of people. also I don't think they should wipe out the qunari Ithink the qunari need to stop attacking. also  most qunari are fanatics and those that aren't are questioning the Qun.

[kathic]

Genocide: Fan tested, Bioware approved!


Sorry but most people frown on destroying an entire group of people because of their beliefs.

Modifié par kathic, 02 mai 2013 - 07:14 .

[BouncyFrag]

A desire to eradicate Qun seems a bit hypocritical. The Qun is harsh and extreme but so is wanting to wipe them out.

[EmperorSahlertz]

garrusfan1 wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Solmanian wrote...

Wow, I don't think I ever encountered such an intolerant thread toward a fictional species. "Please bioware let destroy the Qun"? Because the andrastians are better? It's not even feasible, since you still don't know where the qunari came from... You only know which country they invaded first. For all we know there an entire continent filled with angry qunari.

I agree with the fact that people want to eradicate them to be a little odd. also the qunari came to thedas and then immediatly went to war. also andrastians are not as bad cause people have choice unlike the qun

Unless you are a mage. Then you have no choice.

to be fair mages are always screwed but they are worse off with qunari

Saarebas is not the only role for a mage in the Qun....

[Huge_Beaver]

This sooo much, crucifixion for the qunari and chantry!

[sandalisthemaker]

RedArmyShogun wrote...

OP your heresy has been marked.

You will not live to see tomorrow.

Glory is Found only in the Qun.

Lmao
I was wondering when you would show up, Qunari.

[sandalisthemaker]

Jayne126 wrote...

Infidels.

Seriously, I leave to go to work and all of these Qunari sympathizers come and swarm my thread. 

[JerZey CJ]

To quote V "Ideas are bullet proof". You can never "eradicate" the Qun because it is an idea, and ideas can't die. The only way you could possibly eradicate it is to commit genocide against an entire people, and really, would that make you any better than them? Even if you did wipe out all of the Qunari, that wouldn't destroy the idea, the Qun would still exist, there would be documents on it, and another could find it and bring it back.

[Jestina]

They just seemed too much like the Borg to me. 

Modifié par Jestina, 02 mai 2013 - 11:56 .

[sandalisthemaker]

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

To quote V "Ideas are bullet proof". You can never "eradicate" the Qun because it is an idea, and ideas can't die. The only way you could possibly eradicate it is to commit genocide against an entire people, and really, would that make you any better than them? Even if you did wipe out all of the Qunari, that wouldn't destroy the idea, the Qun would still exist, there would be documents on it, and another could find it and bring it back.

The kossith as a race need not be annihilated completely. As I have suggested before, the Tal-Vashoth could be spared and integrated into society once the Qunari are purged.
I don't believe the rest of Thedas should sit back and bend over. If the Qunari push, the rest of Thedas should push back. The ordeal will be long and bloody, but as long as freedom is at stake, then so be it.

Modifié par sandalisthemaker, 03 mai 2013 - 12:00 .

[Althix]

sandalisthemaker wrote...
If he shows up as an aggressor this time around, his head will roll.

it sure will. that loser lost a duel to Alistair... Alistair.

my kadan Arishok on the other hand have some plans about that pity Thedas of yours.

[EdwinLi]

secretsandlies wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...
If he shows up as an aggressor this time around, his head will roll.

it sure will. that loser lost a duel to Alistair... Alistair.

my kadan Arishok on the other hand have some plans about that pity Thedas of yours.

Can you blame him? When was the last time Sten got any real exercise anyways?

Most likely he has spent his entire time on the Arishok chair saying "No".

Alistair actually goes out a lot more.

Modifié par EdwinLi, 03 mai 2013 - 12:23 .

[JerZey CJ]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

To quote V "Ideas are bullet proof". You can never "eradicate" the Qun because it is an idea, and ideas can't die. The only way you could possibly eradicate it is to commit genocide against an entire people, and really, would that make you any better than them? Even if you did wipe out all of the Qunari, that wouldn't destroy the idea, the Qun would still exist, there would be documents on it, and another could find it and bring it back.

The kossith as a race need not be annihilated completely. As I have suggested before, the Tal-Vashoth could be spared and integrated into society once the Qunari are purged.
I don't believe the rest of Thedas should sit back and bend over. If the Qunari push, the rest of Thedas should push back. The ordeal will be long and bloody, but as long as freedom is at stake, then so be it.

But the Tal-Vashoth make up only a small number of Qunari, you would still be wiping out the vast majority of the Qunari people(and still be commiting a genocide) , and what of the Elf, Human, or Dwarf Qunari? The rest of the world need not bend over and take it, but wiping out a people is not the solution. Set boundries, go to war if needed, but do not wipe all of them out over a difference in ideals. After all, the Qunari are only doing what many countries/beliefs did in the real world, expanding and converting and none of them had to be wiped out. After a couple of battles and meetings, boundries will be set, along with what is allowed and not.

[EdwinLi]

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

But the Tal-Vashoth make up only a small number of Qunari, you would still be wiping out the vast majority of the Qunari people(and still be commiting a genocide) , and what of the Elf, Human, or Dwarf Qunari? The rest of the world need not bend over and take it, but wiping out a people is not the solution. Set boundries, go to war if needed, but do not wipe all of them out over a difference in ideals. After all, the Qunari are only doing what many countries/beliefs did in the real world, expanding and converting and none of them had to be wiped out. After a couple of battles and meetings, boundries will be set, along with what is allowed and not.

ya a lot of people forgot Manifest Destiny was the United States way of conquest and religious convergence.

Oh and let not forget how early white settlers burned Native Americans a live in the name of Christianity after they bathtized them.

[sandalisthemaker]

EdwinLi wrote...

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

But the Tal-Vashoth make up only a small number of Qunari, you would still be wiping out the vast majority of the Qunari people(and still be commiting a genocide) , and what of the Elf, Human, or Dwarf Qunari? The rest of the world need not bend over and take it, but wiping out a people is not the solution. Set boundries, go to war if needed, but do not wipe all of them out over a difference in ideals. After all, the Qunari are only doing what many countries/beliefs did in the real world, expanding and converting and none of them had to be wiped out. After a couple of battles and meetings, boundries will be set, along with what is allowed and not.

ya a lot of people forgot Manifest Destiny was the United States way of conquest and religious convergence.

Oh and let not forget how early white settlers burned Native Americans a live in the name of Christianity after they bathtized them.

Yes, and pointing out real world examples is a sure fire way to get this thread locked.
So don't do it, please.

[Solmanian]

Wulfram wrote...

Solmanian wrote...

Wow, I don't think I ever encountered such an intolerant thread toward a fictional species. "Please bioware let destroy the Qun"? Because the andrastians are better? It's not even feasible, since you still don't know where the qunari came from... You only know which country they invaded first. For all we know there an entire continent filled with angry qunari.

Pretty sure people want to wipe out the religion, not the species.  Which makes it totally OK

I'm jewish. After 3+ milleniums of everybody and his sister, from the Ashurian, phylistines and babilonians through the greek and romans to the christians and muslim, trying to forcibly convert us through turture and murder (and lets not forget the catholic church kidnapping jewish babies, baptise them and put them in christian families to "save their souls")... I can definitely say it's not OK

garrusfan1 wrote...

to be fair mages are always screwed but they are worse off with qunari

Are they, really? Qunari mages don't seem to be much worse than any other qunari. They have a place in qunari society, like everyone else, and seem to find contentment in fullfilling it. The saarebas in DA2 prefered to commit suicide than betary the qun; the majority of circle mages, even the non-rebelious ones, don't seem to share that sentiment towards the circle system...