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[SpamBot2000]

It's not even about oversexualizing a female character, it's about oversexualizing a robot.

[David7204]

So what defines 'oversexualization,' again?

[KaiserShep]

I didn't really have a big problem with EDI's reasoning for taking over Eva's body, though in the place of Shepard, I probably would've suggested it be disabled, mainly because it did almost kill one of your squadmates, and try to kill you.

[Iakus]

Argolas wrote...

Ashley is beautiful even in ME1 with her military hairstyle. Liara never shows unnecessarily much skin yet she still is beautiful, same goes for Samantha. You can create sexy characters without oversexualizing their character models. I'd never find Asari attractive just for being space babes with blue skin. I played the game and learned more about them, found them an interesting fictional race and grew to like a few Asari that I could get to know, so now they work for me.

I can't "this" enough

[SpamBot2000]

For robots, "some" might be too much.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 02 mai 2013 - 06:39 .

[Argolas]

David7204 wrote...

So what defines 'oversexualization,' again?

Hard to come up with a clear definition, but when every second character in the game just talks about how hot that robot looks and that serves no real purpose to speak of, you probably went too far.

Another example: I didn't like Samara's "uniform", but it's alright. If everybody was talking about how hot Samara looks though, I'd be annoyed because that's not what I consider the character to be about.

Modifié par Argolas, 02 mai 2013 - 06:40 .

[AresKeith]

Argolas wrote...

Ashley is beautiful even in ME1 with her military hairstyle. Liara never shows unnecessarily much skin yet she still is beautiful, same goes for Samantha. You can create sexy characters without oversexualizing their character models. I'd never find Asari attractive just for being space babes with blue skin. I played the game and learned more about them, found them an interesting fictional race and grew to like a few Asari that I could get to know, so now they work for me.

They could have easily gave Ash a pony-tail instead of letting her hair down for ME3

[adayaday]

In most games a Characters apearance match her personality or at least back ground story.
Mirianda and Jack are good examples in ME.
EDI's character is actully one of the more innocent ones in the game,actually looking for the meaning of being alive and looking for love.
However her body look like it was stolen from a future sexstore.

[SpamBot2000]

Speaking about Ashley's hair, it was funny when Mac Walters was talking about how she has a short cut when we meet her in ME1, and that they wanted to make her more "sophisticated".

[Xilizhra]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

It's not even about oversexualizing a female character, it's about oversexualizing a robot.

Why does it matter about her being a robot?

[AresKeith]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

Speaking about Ashley's hair, it was funny when Mac Walters was talking about how she has a short cut when we meet her in ME1, and that they wanted to make her more "sophisticated".

Mac you make no sense

[PsyrenY]

"Oversexualizing" is a matter of taste. You can't expect everyone's line to stop where yours does.

I don't see a problem with EDI.

What creeped me out what the crew, everyone saying Joker would go nuts when he saw it. Like he was already masturbating to the ship and everyone knew it, and having a realdoll on the bridge would make it even easier now or something. Was his attraction to the ship that obvious before?

Modifié par Optimystic_X, 02 mai 2013 - 06:47 .

[Iakus]

Kinda funny how, if EDI's body was to let her "explore humanity" she never replaces the skin, puts on clothing, or separate the hair.

For that matter, an "infiltration mech" would logically have body proportions mor ein line with a standard human female, like the ones we see all over the place. You know, to not draw attention.

Yeah, EDI totally wasn't deigned to be eye candy /sarcasm

[Xilizhra]

iakus wrote...

Kinda funny how, if EDI's body was to let her "explore humanity" she never replaces the skin, puts on clothing, or separate the hair.

For that matter, an "infiltration mech" would logically have body proportions mor ein line with a standard human female, like the ones we see all over the place. You know, to not draw attention.

Yeah, EDI totally wasn't deigned to be eye candy /sarcasm

The body was designed to be sexually attractive. Which may have something to do with TIM being creepy about Eva, or just considering that she may have to sleep her way into her places.

[SpamBot2000]

Xilizhra wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

It's not even about oversexualizing a female character, it's about oversexualizing a robot.

Why does it matter about her being a robot?

Well, the biological function of sexuality is procreation. This is true even if an individual's sexual preference is not conducive to that end. Robots, not reproducing sexually, would not have sexuality as we know it. 

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 02 mai 2013 - 06:48 .

[KaiserShep]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

Speaking about Ashley's hair, it was funny when Mac Walters was talking about how she has a short cut when we meet her in ME1, and that they wanted to make her more "sophisticated".

What an odd word to use. She's a frikkin' marine. She don't need no stinkin' sophistication. 

[AresKeith]

Xilizhra wrote...

iakus wrote...

Kinda funny how, if EDI's body was to let her "explore humanity" she never replaces the skin, puts on clothing, or separate the hair.

For that matter, an "infiltration mech" would logically have body proportions mor ein line with a standard human female, like the ones we see all over the place. You know, to not draw attention.

Yeah, EDI totally wasn't deigned to be eye candy /sarcasm

The body was designed to be sexually attractive. Which may have something to do with TIM being creepy about Eva, or just considering that she may have to sleep her way into her places.

She could atleast put skin back on and try to blend in

[David7204]

Here's the logic I'm seeing.

It's perfectly okay for a woman to have the sexually appealing trait of pretty eyes.
It's perfectly okay for a woman to have the sexually appealing trait of flawless skin.
It's perfectly okay for a woman to have the sexually appealing trait of sleek and shiny hair.
It's perfectly okay for a woman to have the sexually appealing trait of  a well-structured face.
It's perfectly okay for a woman to have the sexually appealing trait of being slender.
It's perfectly okay for a woman to have the sexually appealing trait of being tall.

All of these are undeniably sexually appealing traits.

But if a character has the sexually appealing trait of full breasts, well, gosh, it must be because the developers want to bring in 13 year old boys and basement dwellers. It must be because they want to advertise. There's no possible other reason or explanation. And any character who has full breasts is a dumb sl(u)t, because having full breasts 'detracts' from them?

Modifié par David7204, 02 mai 2013 - 06:49 .

[KaiserShep]

Optimystic_X wrote...

"Oversexualizing" is a matter of taste. You can't expect everyone's line to stop where yours does.

I don't see a problem with EDI.

What creeped me out what the crew, everyone saying Joker would go nuts when he saw it. Like he was already masturbating to the ship and everyone knew it, and having a realdoll on the bridge would make it even easier now or something. Was his attraction to the ship that obvious before?

Both Donnelly and Joker crawled around in the Normandy's ductwork. Needless to say, she's been a bad girl. 

[SpamBot2000]

KaiserShep wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

Speaking about Ashley's hair, it was funny when Mac Walters was talking about how she has a short cut when we meet her in ME1, and that they wanted to make her more "sophisticated".

What an odd word to use. She's a frikkin' marine. She don't need no stinkin' sophistication. 

Also she she didn't even have short hair in ME1...

[adayaday]

KaiserShep wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

Speaking about Ashley's hair, it was funny when Mac Walters was talking about how she has a short cut when we meet her in ME1, and that they wanted to make her more "sophisticated".

What an odd word to use. She's a frikkin' marine. She don't need no stinkin' sophistication. 

Ironic that she ended up as one of the less sophisticated charaters in game.

[AresKeith]

David7204 wrote...

Here's the logic I'm seeing.

It's perfectly okay for a woman to have the sexually appealing trait of pretty eyes.
It's perfectly okay for a woman to have the sexually appealing trait of flawless skin.
It's perfectly okay for a woman to have the sexually appealing trait of sleek and shiny hair.
It's perfectly okay for a woman to have the sexually appealing trait of  a well-structured face.
It's perfectly okay for a woman to have the sexually appealing trait of being slender.
It's perfectly okay for a woman to have the sexually appealing trait of being tall.

All of these are undeniably sexually appealing traits.

But if a character has the sexually appealing trait of full breasts, well, gosh, it must be because the developers want to bring in 13 year old boys and basement dwellers. It must be because they want to advertise. There's no possible other reason or explanation. And any character who has full breasts is a dumb sl(u)t, because having full breasts 'detracts' from them?

 There's been no mention of breasts in the thread

[Jewlie Ghoulie]

Lol them poll options.

[David7204]

Is that pretty much what defines EDI as a sexbot? Her rack?

[Argolas]

Look, there are so many ways to create a sexy character in Mass Effect. They are, at least in video game terms, extremely well-written, have often rather complex personalities and great voice actors. Miranda likes to take advantage of her sex-appeal, so give her a spygirl suite, that's good. Jack does not care about social standards at all while she is rather proud of her tatoos, so make her almost naked, that makes perfect sense. And get rid of her hair while you are at it, why not? She's still hot and it fits her character better than a "conventional" feminine hairstyle. You can do all that as long as it makes sense, but there are other things you can do as well. In a game with so much dialogue, even attitude can play a huge role. I find Miranda's attitude attractive, the way she is confident and still watches her limits, also how she watches over her sister. I don't find Samara attractive anymore after she attempted to kill herself in front of Falere. That stuff works because characters in Mass Effect are a lot more than their character models. Immersion can do powerful stuff to the audience.