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[Alien Number Six]

MassivelyEffective0730 I invaded Iraq in 2003 with the U.S Army's 2/5 1st Cav division. I was Stop Lossed twice and didn't leave Iraq until 2006. I was enlisted in the army from 2001 to 2011. I left the army with the rank of E6. My DD214 reads honorable discharge. My MOS was 21 Bravo Combat Engineer. I'm a veteran now. I live ten miles from my last post Fort Hood also known as the great place. As a former staff sargeant I feel that I'm completely and totally qualified to discuss matters of the military with you as a former non-comissioned officer of the U.S. Army. As I posted eariler a made several decisions during the war that cost the lives of good men under my charge. I never ordered a solider into situation knowing they would die but when they did die l felt bad. But the important thing was we completed our mission dispite the losses. This is why I feel the ending of Mass Effect 3 is realistic. At the end of the game you are forced to make a tough decision. As I stated before there is no military decision without conquences. You will lose people, your body, or your life. I'm a person who had to make such tough calls in real life situations. I put people in danger and in some cases it cost them their lives. I chose Destroy dispite the deaths of EDI and the Geth. I did so because as we say in the military "The mission comes first." all other priorities are secondary. I'm sure we are in agreement on this. However I respect your opinion to dislike the ending. That is your choice in a free country we BOTH helped defend.

[Yestare7]

Alien Number Six wrote...

 I chose Destroy dispite the deaths of EDI and the Geth. I did so because as we say in the military "The mission comes first." all other priorities are secondary.

+1

[Eterna]

I don't care enough to post why anymore. There is no point, in the end nobodies opinion will change and we'll rant on for pages upon pages at each other and die a little inside.

[TheProtheans]

Eterna5 wrote...

I don't care enough to post why anymore. There is no point, in the end nobodies opinion will change and we'll rant on for pages upon pages at each other and die a little inside.

Too true.
I got bored of debating the same points with pro-enders over and over again.
I pretty much did not get involved in anything for the last 7 months.

[Morlath]

Alien Number Six wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 I invaded Iraq in 2003 with the U.S Army's 2/5 1st Cav division. I was Stop Lossed twice and didn't leave Iraq until 2006. I was enlisted in the army from 2001 to 2011. I left the army with the rank of E6. My DD214 reads honorable discharge. My MOS was 21 Bravo Combat Engineer. I'm a veteran now. I live ten miles from my last post Fort Hood also known as the great place. As a former staff sargeant I feel that I'm completely and totally qualified to discuss matters of the military with you as a former non-comissioned officer of the U.S. Army. As I posted eariler a made several decisions during the war that cost the lives of good men under my charge. I never ordered a solider into situation knowing they would die but when they did die l felt bad. But the important thing was we completed our mission dispite the losses. This is why I feel the ending of Mass Effect 3 is realistic. At the end of the game you are forced to make a tough decision. As I stated before there is no military decision without conquences. You will lose people, your body, or your life. I'm a person who had to make such tough calls in real life situations. I put people in danger and in some cases it cost them their lives. I chose Destroy dispite the deaths of EDI and the Geth. I did so because as we say in the military "The mission comes first." all other priorities are secondary. I'm sure we are in agreement on this. However I respect your opinion to dislike the ending. That is your choice in a free country we BOTH helped defend.

Two points:

1) On behalf of all the Americans I know and love, thank you for your service to their country.

2) In knowing a number of military people (British and American) this was always my thought process in playing the ME games regardless of if I was a Paragon or a Renegade and I felt that the entire experience was made better because of it.

[Alien Number Six]

I liked all of the endings. They each had their pros and cons. Eterna5 the endless discussions just prove how good the game was. Sometimes it gets ugly but few games are talked about this much a year later.

[Yestare7]

Alien Number Six wrote... Eterna5 the endless discussions just prove how good the game was. Sometimes it gets ugly but few games are talked about this much a year later.

We care a lot - fantastic games.

"The best"

[M74]

The ending as such is not bad from the level design and colors (red is just awesome).
It is just out of context with choices made in the trilogy vs. endings as promised (aka bad delivery).

cheers

[TheProtheans]

Alien Number Six wrote...

I liked all of the endings. They each had their pros and cons. Eterna5 the endless discussions just prove how good the game was. Sometimes it gets ugly but few games are talked about this much a year later.

I'll have to remember that the next time someone discusses E.T.

[Wayning_Star]

The endings have a 'message' that being there isn't one.

Most stories have them/one.

[Mastone]

Optimystic_X wrote...

OP: I definitely think the endings could have been better but I guess not hating them with every fiber of my being puts me in the "like" camp around here. I find them interesting, even if I see no possible way my chosen ending (Synthesis) could ever be canon.

Mastone wrote...

@OP most people headcanon the ending or find intrigate theories to make everything fit...it is in most cases just a case of denial (emphasizing most here...not all).

Mastone wrote...

I watched the MEHEM ending on YouTube and this was a lot more bearable than the teletubbies stuff Bioware made up with all the miljons they had to spend it is almost a crime that they ruined an entire franchise

The irony here is palpable 

This is not irony, it is just an observation of my part with regards to how most people here react in discussions related to the ending, I am not headcanoning anything and the people responsible for the MEHEM ending dit not create an intigrate theory..they simply ommitted the ridiculous starchild from the equation which made it a better ending.
I do not wish to insult anyone who like the ending or the way Bioware delivered ME3, hell I wish I could turn critical off thinking myself.
As I said in multiple posts already it is not only the ending that made ME3 a B title to me, it is the overall lacking quality in level and game design and the charging for additional characters that makes me dislike ME and Bioware as a company.
I have been gaming all my life and I am amazed that this ( and other companies) are still in business after these antics and am gratefull that there are still some companies who are able to deliver decent quality games ( Bioshock, ME1 and The Witcher 2 are games I can highly recommend to anyone here, ME3 I will never endorse and ME2 only to people who just like to play a standalone game with no connection to ME1 -or ME3)

[Mastone]

Alien Number Six wrote...

I liked all of the endings. They each had their pros and cons. Eterna5 the endless discussions just prove how good the game was. Sometimes it gets ugly but few games are talked about this much a year later.

Well I can agree to the extend that Bioware made a universe you as a player felt attracted to, the reason people are still taling about the endings is simple:
50% love the ending
50% hate the ending

People post threads where they spread this love /hate with regards to said ending and the opposite party will comment on this.

I only played ME2 and 3, because I hoped they would get back to the quality of ME1, which they never did.
Because of the ending of ME3 and stuff I have heard and seen about other games Bioware made and how they decided to react to critisism I will most likely not buy a Bioware game anymore unless it is for sale on steam for 12 dollars or something and even then will I read online if it is anything half decent.

I am really looking forward to the Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077

[Alien Number Six]

This is a thread to express what you liked about the ending. If you didn't like it please respect those those who do and post in one of the many "I hate the ending." threads. I respect your right to hate on the ending but you are in the wrong place. Regardless of how you felt about the ending Mass Effect 3 and the rest trilogy will go down in history as one of the best video game series of this generation. Love it or hate it Mass Effect 3 was a critical and financial success.

[DDK]

Personally I think that the only possible way that a renegade ending makes any sense is if you have played pure renegade the entire way through the game. Not renegon, but pure renegade. Renegade is generally the most selfish, ignorant, short-sighted and aggressive action to take of all the choices. Any other character style, pure paragon, renegon or paragade, I feel the only option that makes sense for such a character is synthesis.

Even the paragon ending is selfish and cruel because it won't stop the cycle. AI's will just sprout up again. Only synthesis ends the cycle forever and allows all species in the galaxy to evolve past self-destruction. Plus everything leading up to that point, points towards synthesis being the ultimate goal. Shepard may hate the Reapers, he may want revenge for everything they've done, but ultimately his journey was never about him, it was about the fate of the galaxy and ending the cycle once and for all.

[Alien Number Six]

TheProtheans wrote...

Alien Number Six wrote...

I liked all of the endings. They each had their pros and cons. Eterna5 the endless discussions just prove how good the game was. Sometimes it gets ugly but few games are talked about this much a year later.

I'll have to remember that the next time someone discusses E.T.

If your talking about the Atari 2600 version of E.T. I played through that game too. I didn't think it was that bad. But I did get it for free. 

[TheProtheans]

Alien Number Six wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

Alien Number Six wrote...

I liked all of the endings. They each had their pros and cons. Eterna5 the endless discussions just prove how good the game was. Sometimes it gets ugly but few games are talked about this much a year later.

I'll have to remember that the next time someone discusses E.T.

If your talking about the Atari 2600 version of E.T. I played through that game too. I didn't think it was that bad. But I did get it for free. 

Getting something for free helps opinions on stuff.
If I got an awful car for free I would certainly be happy with it, though my view would be bias as I got it for free and not with my cash.

[TheRealJayDee]

I liked the endings because my expressions of displeasure about them provided great amusement to my friends. Also I got to know a lot of cool people here on the BSN better while discussing them! And the music was real good.

Yestare7 wrote...

Seriously Wulf, please tell me WHY you are so keen to insult people?

Well, he is obviously way more intelligent, empathic and, well, overall just plain better than most of us -especially Destroyers-, so why should the usual rules of conduct apply to him? So of course it's okay for the vast majority of his posts to contain insults, and someone of his importance and intellectual capability doesn't need to explain himself to the likes of you anyways.

Also what SpamBot posted...

[ApuLunas]

i was watching old star trek movies and i realized why new generation didn't like the ending. they don't want to cogitate, they just want to enjoy. mass effect wasn't a journey of ideas for them, it was just another story with science fiction spice.

[Alien Number Six]

Malisin wrote...

Personally I think that the only possible way that a renegade ending makes any sense is if you have played pure renegade the entire way through the game. Not renegon, but pure renegade. Renegade is generally the most selfish, ignorant, short-sighted and aggressive action to take of all the choices. Any other character style, pure paragon, renegon or paragade, I feel the only option that makes sense for such a character is synthesis.

Even the paragon ending is selfish and cruel because it won't stop the cycle. AI's will just sprout up again. Only synthesis ends the cycle forever and allows all species in the galaxy to evolve past self-destruction. Plus everything leading up to that point, points towards synthesis being the ultimate goal. Shepard may hate the Reapers, he may want revenge for everything they've done, but ultimately his journey was never about him, it was about the fate of the galaxy and ending the cycle once and for all.

I agree. The fact that the AI that controls the Reapers appears as the reoccuring image of the boy in Shepard's PTSD nightmares confirms that dispite the many cycles it still does not have a firm grip on organic psychology. It wants to appear friendly and non-threatning to Shepard but fails without realizing why. Shepard cannot understand the cold logic of the AI. It tells Shepard organics create synthetics. Synthetics wipe out the organics. The Reapers harvest the races before this happens and stores their DNA and technology in Reaper form. They speed up the evolutionary process to keep the cycle going until the AI can find a solution. They don't understand each other. That is why the only real solution is Synthesis. To stop the cycle the two sides must understand each other. Destroy may acheve your military goals but Synthesis solves the problem at hand. 

[dreamgazer]

ApuLunas wrote...

i was watching old star trek movies and i realized why new generation didn't like the ending. they don't want to cogitate, they just want to enjoy. mass effect wasn't a journey of ideas for them, it was just another story with science fiction spice.

Nope.

[TheProtheans]

ApuLunas wrote...

i was watching old star trek movies and i realized why new generation didn't like the ending. they don't want to cogitate, they just want to enjoy. mass effect wasn't a journey of ideas for them, it was just another story with science fiction spice.

That makes sense.
I didn't want to cogitate, I just wanted to enjoy another story with sciene fiction spice.
That is why I disapprove of the ending, it is not because it is plot hole ridded and doesn't fit the narrative of the trilogy.

[NeroonWilliams]

Malisin wrote...

Personally I think that the only possible way that a renegade ending makes any sense is if you have played pure renegade the entire way through the game. Not renegon, but pure renegade. Renegade is generally the most selfish, ignorant, short-sighted and aggressive action to take of all the choices. Any other character style, pure paragon, renegon or paragade, I feel the only option that makes sense for such a character is synthesis.

Even the paragon ending is selfish and cruel because it won't stop the cycle. AI's will just sprout up again. Only synthesis ends the cycle forever and allows all species in the galaxy to evolve past self-destruction. Plus everything leading up to that point, points towards synthesis being the ultimate goal. Shepard may hate the Reapers, he may want revenge for everything they've done, but ultimately his journey was never about him, it was about the fate of the galaxy and ending the cycle once and for all.

One of the things I like the most about the endings is that there ISN'T a Paragon or Renegade choice.  Destroy can be chosen for the most Paragon of reasons, and Control can be chosen out of the sheer Renegade ambition that so many people want to automatically assign to that outcome.  All three will end the war, but the choice is all about what your Shepard values the most.

[Alien Number Six]

TheProtheans wrote...

ApuLunas wrote...

i was watching old star trek movies and i realized why new generation didn't like the ending. they don't want to cogitate, they just want to enjoy. mass effect wasn't a journey of ideas for them, it was just another story with science fiction spice.

That makes sense.
I didn't want to cogitate, I just wanted to enjoy another story with sciene fiction spice.
That is why I disapprove of the ending, it is not because it is plot hole ridded and doesn't fit the narrative of the trilogy.

This thread is about what you liked about the ending. If you don't like the ending why are you posting here. I know and respect the fact that many didn't like the ending. But I would like to hear something positive for a change. There are several I hate the ending threads to choose from you can always post in one of them. 

[dreamgazer]

Alien Number Six wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

ApuLunas wrote...

i was watching old star trek movies and i realized why new generation didn't like the ending. they don't want to cogitate, they just want to enjoy. mass effect wasn't a journey of ideas for them, it was just another story with science fiction spice.

That makes sense.
I didn't want to cogitate, I just wanted to enjoy another story with sciene fiction spice.
That is why I disapprove of the ending, it is not because it is plot hole ridded and doesn't fit the narrative of the trilogy.

This thread is about what you liked about the ending. If you don't like the ending why are you posting here. I know and respect the fact that many didn't like the ending. But I would like to hear something positive for a change. There are several I hate the ending threads to choose from you can always post in one of them. 

The original post of this conversation didn't have anything to say about why they liked the ending, actually, only a false assumption as to why people didn't like the ending.

PS: the false-God plot device didn't work out too well for Star Trek V.