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#176
LeandroBraz

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Disregarding when the matchmaker decide that my lobby isn't worth of other players and force me to restart the game, I always create a lobby and players pop up. I wouldn't say it's dying, definitely not dead, it's just a MP with more than one year, that stopped getting updates. Some players move on, it happens.

I think that ME3 have players enough that are Loyal to the MP to keep the game alive into the next ME arrive.

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Lord Rosario wrote...
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thewalrusx wrote...

ever play left4dead? Started as PC then went console, it was also maintained by steam/valve for well longer than a year

your argument is invalid[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wizard.png[/smilie]


Point? I don't know much about left4dead. I've only played it a handfull of times. But, sounds like they expanded to consoles to make more money.. Which, actually aids my point. "Lets put left4dead on consoles! Now we have all this new money we are making so we can add even more content for longer!" Sounds about right..


your point was that me3mp and other games wouldn't exist without consoles, l4dead proves otherwise as it was widly profiitable and played before its move to consoles


the fact is, if me3mp was PC only, or PC based it would be a a lot easier and cheaper to maintain

consoles disinsentivice developers content development, bug fixing and upkeep because both sony and microsoft want a fat stack of cash before they let them do it, Pc everyything is free

if it cost more money to update a game than you would make then a developer is not going to do it, on PC thats almost never the case because of how little it costs, its really that simple, 

instead of complaining about it, why not save up for a nice video card and join the master race?

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USIncorp0 wrote...

 I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm watching the game slowly dying.
i've been wondering about what killed it the most.
I have a few choices that i've narrowed it down to.
1) The AIU, one of the dumbest design decisions i've ever seen in a game.
2)  The Reegar Carbine, so obviously broken yet nothing was done.
3) Juggernauts, all these fools who don't deserve to play silver thinking they can play Gold. It deeply saddens me every time I see one in a lobby.
4) Consoles. No offense to anyone who plays on a console, you guys are great, but rather the companies. Making it nearly impossible for Bioware to release new content for the game. And Bioware's policy of keeping the game consistent across all platforms means that the game never truly could reach it's full potential.

In closing, I want to say that this is nothing against Bioware, or the game, it just sadens me that this game which I have grown to love end in such a way. But all things must end, and all things must move on.

Oh and this isnt a goodbye either, im still playing, just not nearly as frequently and for as long time spans.


Wrong.  No more challenges is why a lot of us have slowed down.  

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joker_jack

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thewalrusx wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...
snip 

thewalrusx wrote...

ever play left4dead? Started as PC then went console, it was also maintained by steam/valve for well longer than a year

your argument is invalid[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wizard.png[/smilie]


Point? I don't know much about left4dead. I've only played it a handfull of times. But, sounds like they expanded to consoles to make more money.. Which, actually aids my point. "Lets put left4dead on consoles! Now we have all this new money we are making so we can add even more content for longer!" Sounds about right..


your point was that me3mp and other games wouldn't exist without consoles, l4dead proves otherwise as it was widly profiitable and played before its move to consoles


the fact is, if me3mp was PC only, or PC based it would be a a lot easier and cheaper to maintain

consoles disinsentivice developers content development, bug fixing and upkeep because both sony and microsoft want a fat stack of cash before they let them do it, Pc everyything is free

if it cost more money to update a game than you would make then a developer is not going to do it, on PC thats almost never the case because of how little it costs, its really that simple, 

instead of complaining about it, why not save up for a nice video card and join the master race?


Or you can stop sounding like a n*zi and actually open your eyes. Betheda manages to pop out a crap load of patches for consoles on the same basis as pc. 

Also with the recent downfall of 308 studios and THQ, Companies are changing business models quickly to keep afloat. Supporting a game past a year for a developer these days is costly. The gameing audience has a very short attention span at that adding to limited support times.

And also nothing is free you moron on any platform. Things are moving into microtransactions which make a crap ton of money by charging the player for everything under the sun and the player gladdly pays. 

Not everyone has $300-$600 for a graphics card either. some people actually have real life bills. Not eveyone is a well off idiot.

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Lord Rosario wrote...

USIncorp0 wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

Don't forget the glitches.


Which comes back to consoles preventing BW from releasing patches that could have been used to improve the game.
ME3 would have survived much longer as PC only imo.


I wasn't aware that the game never existing at all was considered longer than a year. And you know, without consoles, where ME was originally made for, ME3 would not exist. So no.. It would not have lasted longer. It would also have had a MUCH smaller playerbase if it was PC only, which would allow for far less DLC to have been made [if any] due to less money coming in. Heck, if it was PC only all the way though since the first ME, I doubt multiplayer would have even been a thought that would have made it to the drawing board.

IMO: Reaching out to PC players was the mistake. It created so many new and different glitches, didn't have as large a player base as the other consoles, made getting things out for consoles more difficult, balancing became a serious issue because of the things PC players could do that console players could not, and even had the most cheaters getting banned, taking even more hours away from actually working on the game.

I'll leave out the master race puns I could make here too. Folks might get off topic if I did that. :whistle:

Edit: Apparently the other word for 'master race' is a bad word. Thus, I have removed it.






Loads of games hav been made for pc only over the years and still played today. consoles are not as good as a good PC. All games are best on PC. IE Far Cry 3 , Crysis 1,2, ( 3 DX11) Skyrim is PC only and has mod support and DLC. Multiplayer is still played in older games everyday. I still play Cod 4 online